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| Harlequin Tuskfish | First tank questions OK, I'm setting up my first tank and I am trying to plan it out completely before I screw myself up. First off, here's what I am planning on: 45-50 gallon reef - It'll likely be more of a FOWLR system at first, but I want to be able to start adding corals once I get comfortable with a minimum of fuss. I plan to go fish light, a damsel, royal gramma, clown, and possibly a blenny for sand turnover and a pygmy angel, although I have gotten conflicting information as to whether they are reef safe. Is this too much bioload? Also, when figuring the bioload for a tank, do I include motile invertebrates? 3" argonite/live sand bed, 50# or so of live rock I just purchased an AquaC Remora with MaxJet 1200 skimmer. With the live sand and rock, will I need additional filtration? My LFS suggested an Emporer 400 biowheel. Is this necessary for a healthy reef system? I figure to go with a combination daylight/arcturic light system, but is this something that can be put off until I start adding corals to the system? Any suggestions are appreciated! |
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| Bryozoan | Re: First tank questions Anselth, a quick question, why the damsel? They are a real pain to remove once established especially with live rock. With live rock (if you put it in first) you won't need the damsel to cycle. But maybe you want one permanently in the tank? (remember, they do have bad raps as being very aggressive). I, personally like pygmy angels, especially for a FOWLR tank. I've had both coral beauty's and lemon peel angels. Both make nice additions in my estimation (but only one in a tank at a time). I've never had anything other than mushrooms/polyps really, and they didn't bother them as I recall. Probably a hit or miss type of thing. You can use a biowheel filter, but with your live sand/rock and skimmer, don't really need it (I've done it both ways). Currently, I do not use a power filter. Bright lights are not really necessary for fish only tanks, so if you have no corals, you should be able to get by with lesser lights. For denitrification purposes, most people, I think, will say that 3 inches of sand is, maybe just a little light. I've always heard 4 inches minimum. I have 5-6 inches in my tank. I currently have a royal gramma and percula clown in my tank. The R.G., I've had about 3-4 years and the clown 6 or 7. They get along fine. I've no experience with a blenny. Remember to go slow and take it easy. Don't get in too much of a hurry to add lots of fish. hth, Frank |
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| Harlequin Tuskfish | Re: First tank questions Welcome to RS!!...I'm with gimpy, maybe another inch or two of live sand, the bio wheel is not really needed....I use a canister filter for more flow and to polish the water, but its not necessary....make sure your rock is cured and tank is cycled before adding live stock. If you are going to have corals make sure you have good water turn over and flow, I use power heads and a wavemaker....oh, ya....have fun!
__________________ Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting |
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| Harlequin Tuskfish | Re: First tank questions Thanks for the advice. To clarify, the Damsel is not to cycle the tank, I'm with just about everyone else in thinking it's cruel. I think I'll set it up without a filter, if I need one for polishing I'll look into a canister. |
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| Yoda Poohbah~ ![]() | Re: First tank questions is the skimmer the only souce of water movement? you will need more current/flow in the tank.
__________________ ~Welcome to my nightmare~ I think you're gonna like it I think you're gonna feel you belong. A walk to vacation, A necessary sedation, You wanna feel at home cause' you belong. *Disclaimer* i say this as my best advice to a beginner. do not,,,and i repeat,,,,,DO NOT look at my tank as an example....i have a well practised eye, decades of experience, and a trunkload of failures to allow me to force the issue and get away with things most cannot~ |
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| Yoda Poohbah~ ![]() | Re: First tank questions if i may suggest....maxi-jets. i feel they are the best on the market, especially if you are going to uses a wavemaker,,,aka alternate flow device.
__________________ ~Welcome to my nightmare~ I think you're gonna like it I think you're gonna feel you belong. A walk to vacation, A necessary sedation, You wanna feel at home cause' you belong. *Disclaimer* i say this as my best advice to a beginner. do not,,,and i repeat,,,,,DO NOT look at my tank as an example....i have a well practised eye, decades of experience, and a trunkload of failures to allow me to force the issue and get away with things most cannot~ |
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| Harlequin Tuskfish | Re: First tank questions I found these for sale on E-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Odyssea-36-192W-...cm dZViewItem does anyone know anything about these or have any experience? Is this enough light for an 18-24" deep tank? |
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