Artemia,worthy/not worthy?

sasquatch · 11-17-2007, 10:30 PM

So? whats the scoop, my supplier (in the big city) is carrying continuous brine shrimp hatcheries, think this would work in the fuge?

hma · 11-17-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sasquatch

So? whats the scoop, my supplier (in the big city) is carrying continuous brine shrimp hatcheries, think this would work in the fuge?

I'm so sorry but definitiv NOT !

boozeman · 11-18-2007, 12:13 AM

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sasquatch · 11-18-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hma

I'm so sorry but definitiv NOT !

Heinz? please tell why? I was thinking they had to be better than the frozen?

sasquatch · 11-18-2007, 12:30 AM

Thanks booze, i havent had a pod nor nothing since the power outage last year

hma · 11-18-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquatch

Heinz? please tell why? I was thinking they had to be better than the frozen?

Live Artemia, or how your calls, brine shrimp are of course much better than frozen. However, they are not to keep in normal salt water. They need a much higher salinity and a very high density of feed (Phytoplankton). The water must be dark green from plankton. You cannot realise this in a fuge because of the high percentage of nitrate.

panmanmatt · 11-18-2007, 08:37 AM

Steve, the continuous hatch and feed is a water quality nightmare. Brine shrimp hatching water is full of ammonia, cilliates and who knows what else. That water will mix with your fuge water and cause you more problems than what it's worth.

I know the package says the water won't mix, but that is only in a fresh water application. With sw being denser that fw the 2 can never mix, but in a sw application the waters will mix together as ther are of a very close density.

sasquatch · 11-18-2007, 08:52 AM

Perfect! my job is done, knowledge base expanded. Thanks for the answers,seemed like a good plan, guess it needs a separate environment so I will stick to mysis

Melanie · 11-18-2007, 08:52 AM

Thank you for asking this question because I was thinking of getting one too and now I see why it's a bad idea.

tbittner · 11-18-2007, 11:08 PM

Are you talking about this device?

I thought this used aquarium water for hatching out the brine...

panmanmatt · 11-19-2007, 09:53 AM

Terry,
That is what hes talking about, but if you read the product description, it was designed for freshwater use. Even though the description says it ca be used for marine tanks it can't. It relies on the density difference between salt and fresh water to keep the hatching water from getting into the tank. In a marine environment, the 2 waters will mix which is not good.

I have brought this to the attention of the manufacturer a few times and the reps have agreed that it isn't really suitable for marine use. However the packaging still states it can be.

tbittner · 11-19-2007, 09:55 AM

To bad this thread hadn't been created about a month ago. I bought one of these but, thankfully, I hadn't used it yet.

Oh well, maybe I'll give it a try on my 29g FW tank.

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panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,730 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Artemia,worthy/not worthy? Steve, the continuous hatch and feed is a water quality nightmare. Brine shrimp hatching water is full of ammonia, cilliates and who knows what else. That water will mix with your fuge water and cause you more problems than what it's worth. I know the package says the water won't mix, but that is only in a fresh water application. With sw being denser that fw the 2 can never mix, but in a sw application the waters will mix together as ther are of a very close density. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

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sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,508 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Artemia,worthy/not worthy? Perfect! my job is done, knowledge base expanded. Thanks for the answers,seemed like a good plan, guess it needs a separate environment so I will stick to mysis __________________ DIY stuff for my tank stand, 100g tank,rock lift, overflow, foam walls, closed loop,lighting reflectors, 50gal sump, bubbletrap and sock holder, ato bracket,kalk bucket and reservoir, 40gal fuge, fuge lighting, remotish dsb raceway, turf algae raceway, dual pumped recirc skimmer, more to follow. Barb ripped my sig

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Melanie Golden Moray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 2,120 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Artemia,worthy/not worthy? Thank you for asking this question because I was thinking of getting one too and now I see why it's a bad idea. __________________ My Reef Journey Latest Recap My Videos My Flickr Photos Pres. of Dork Club I love ScubaDrew and North East Coral! Read why HERE...

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panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,730 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Artemia,worthy/not worthy? Terry, That is what hes talking about, but if you read the product description, it was designed for freshwater use. Even though the description says it ca be used for marine tanks it can't. It relies on the density difference between salt and fresh water to keep the hatching water from getting into the tank. In a marine environment, the 2 waters will mix which is not good. I have brought this to the attention of the manufacturer a few times and the reps have agreed that it isn't really suitable for marine use. However the packaging still states it can be. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

11-19-2007, 09:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,081 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Artemia,worthy/not worthy? To bad this thread hadn't been created about a month ago. I bought one of these but, thankfully, I hadn't used it yet. Oh well, maybe I'll give it a try on my 29g FW tank. __________________ Terry My chronicle 120g with 300g sump/refug, Outer Orbit HQI/T5HO 24-Hour Light System: : 48" 250W HQI 4x54W Lots of fish. 150g predator tank full of killers. 450g tank is IN the HOUSE!

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