yet another Kalk thread

framerguy · 11-08-2007, 12:51 PM

I did an intersting experiment this week with my Kalkwasser. I read reefscapes.net (the article isn't there anymore) that if you drip Kalkwasser too fast and there's not enough Carbon Dioxide in the water that the Bicarbonatae ions will be converted to Carbonate ions and calcium level and alkalinity will actually go down. That's the problem I've been having for a while, my calc has been hard to keep above 380 and my Dkh was staying at 7. I slowed the drip from 1 drip/3/4-1sec to 1 drip/ 1.5 seconds. The calc level on monday was 380 and alk was between 7&8, this morning I checked and the calc level is 425, DKh9. The solution I used was made by dissolving 1 tbs Mrs. Wages Pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) in 24ml vinegar, then mixing that with one gallon RODI water and dripping at the above rate, one gal/day. The author of the article recommended using 15ml vinegar/1/2 tsp calcium hydroxide/quart RODI. I didn't want to go that strong right out of the chute, so I used less vinegar. Has anyone else tried this? I'm so surprised at how effective it was just slowing the drip.

reefman420 · 11-08-2007, 12:54 PM

use the viniger/r0di,and kalk and i have no problems,i drip 1 gallon into a 75 gallon.1 drip every 2 mississippi,it works great.

BEELZEBOB · 11-08-2007, 01:02 PM

oo ooo ooo!!! i have never hard to mix it w/ vinigar?!?!

what does that do?

what type of vinigar are you using?

reefman420 · 11-08-2007, 01:05 PM

distilled white viniger,it helps use up all the calcium.makeing it a more potent mix,think of it as first its whisky,add vin. and its moonshine lol

BEELZEBOB · 11-08-2007, 01:07 PM

darn tootin!!

moonshine is freggin dank!!

framerguy · 11-08-2007, 01:37 PM

At the vinegar:calcium ratio I used something like 36% more calcium dissolves and is available to use. I used vinegar before (about 1/2) but I think the slow rate of drip made a lot of difference too.

11-08-2007, 12:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
framerguy Golden Moray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 2,924 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	yet another Kalk thread I did an intersting experiment this week with my Kalkwasser. I read reefscapes.net (the article isn't there anymore) that if you drip Kalkwasser too fast and there's not enough Carbon Dioxide in the water that the Bicarbonatae ions will be converted to Carbonate ions and calcium level and alkalinity will actually go down. That's the problem I've been having for a while, my calc has been hard to keep above 380 and my Dkh was staying at 7. I slowed the drip from 1 drip/3/4-1sec to 1 drip/ 1.5 seconds. The calc level on monday was 380 and alk was between 7&8, this morning I checked and the calc level is 425, DKh9. The solution I used was made by dissolving 1 tbs Mrs. Wages Pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) in 24ml vinegar, then mixing that with one gallon RODI water and dripping at the above rate, one gal/day. The author of the article recommended using 15ml vinegar/1/2 tsp calcium hydroxide/quart RODI. I didn't want to go that strong right out of the chute, so I used less vinegar. Has anyone else tried this? I'm so surprised at how effective it was just slowing the drip. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 75g Main, 55g Fuge w/DSB/+-25#LR, 25g Sump, turboflotor skimmer, 2x250w MH(9hrs/d), 4x65w PC(14h/d), 950gph mag drive/seaswirl return, 100# LR, 3" SB chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

11-08-2007, 12:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
reefman420 Elegance coral Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minneapolis Posts: 1,085 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: yet another Kalk thread use the viniger/r0di,and kalk and i have no problems,i drip 1 gallon into a 75 gallon.1 drip every 2 mississippi,it works great. __________________ 155 oceanic bow front,20 long refuge packed with caluerpa and mangroves,40 gallon sump,175lbs LR,3x250 watt xm 10ks,aqua-c remora,and pro-clear 150 skimmers sailfin tang,kole tang,royal gramma,cinnimon clown,2xpink skunk clowns,six line wrasse,mandarin, 155 bow coral-orange montipora cap,superman monti cap,scripps green polyped staghorn,ORA pink poccilipora,ORA blue millipora,green slimer,yellow UK acro,pink birdsnest,armor of god zoas,various zoas and shrooms,hammer,frogspawn,clove polyps,favite,fancey toadstool,reg toadstool,yellow leather,purple leather,devils hand,2 types xenia,ricordea florida,ricordea yuma,kenya tree,galaxia,bubble coral,button polyps inverts are lots of snails and hermits,crocea clam,maxima clam and seabae anemone,rbta

11-08-2007, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
reefman420 Elegance coral Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minneapolis Posts: 1,085 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: yet another Kalk thread distilled white viniger,it helps use up all the calcium.makeing it a more potent mix,think of it as first its whisky,add vin. and its moonshine lol __________________ 155 oceanic bow front,20 long refuge packed with caluerpa and mangroves,40 gallon sump,175lbs LR,3x250 watt xm 10ks,aqua-c remora,and pro-clear 150 skimmers sailfin tang,kole tang,royal gramma,cinnimon clown,2xpink skunk clowns,six line wrasse,mandarin, 155 bow coral-orange montipora cap,superman monti cap,scripps green polyped staghorn,ORA pink poccilipora,ORA blue millipora,green slimer,yellow UK acro,pink birdsnest,armor of god zoas,various zoas and shrooms,hammer,frogspawn,clove polyps,favite,fancey toadstool,reg toadstool,yellow leather,purple leather,devils hand,2 types xenia,ricordea florida,ricordea yuma,kenya tree,galaxia,bubble coral,button polyps inverts are lots of snails and hermits,crocea clam,maxima clam and seabae anemone,rbta

11-08-2007, 01:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
framerguy Golden Moray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 2,924 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: yet another Kalk thread At the vinegar:calcium ratio I used something like 36% more calcium dissolves and is available to use. I used vinegar before (about 1/2) but I think the slow rate of drip made a lot of difference too. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 75g Main, 55g Fuge w/DSB/+-25#LR, 25g Sump, turboflotor skimmer, 2x250w MH(9hrs/d), 4x65w PC(14h/d), 950gph mag drive/seaswirl return, 100# LR, 3" SB chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

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