yet another Kalk thread

framerguy · 11-08-2007, 12:51 PM

I did an intersting experiment this week with my Kalkwasser. I read reefscapes.net (the article isn't there anymore) that if you drip Kalkwasser too fast and there's not enough Carbon Dioxide in the water that the Bicarbonatae ions will be converted to Carbonate ions and calcium level and alkalinity will actually go down. That's the problem I've been having for a while, my calc has been hard to keep above 380 and my Dkh was staying at 7. I slowed the drip from 1 drip/3/4-1sec to 1 drip/ 1.5 seconds. The calc level on monday was 380 and alk was between 7&8, this morning I checked and the calc level is 425, DKh9. The solution I used was made by dissolving 1 tbs Mrs. Wages Pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) in 24ml vinegar, then mixing that with one gallon RODI water and dripping at the above rate, one gal/day. The author of the article recommended using 15ml vinegar/1/2 tsp calcium hydroxide/quart RODI. I didn't want to go that strong right out of the chute, so I used less vinegar. Has anyone else tried this? I'm so surprised at how effective it was just slowing the drip.

reefman420 · 11-08-2007, 12:54 PM

use the viniger/r0di,and kalk and i have no problems,i drip 1 gallon into a 75 gallon.1 drip every 2 mississippi,it works great.

BEELZEBOB · 11-08-2007, 01:02 PM

oo ooo ooo!!! i have never hard to mix it w/ vinigar?!?!

what does that do?

what type of vinigar are you using?

reefman420 · 11-08-2007, 01:05 PM

distilled white viniger,it helps use up all the calcium.makeing it a more potent mix,think of it as first its whisky,add vin. and its moonshine lol

BEELZEBOB · 11-08-2007, 01:07 PM

darn tootin!!

moonshine is freggin dank!!

framerguy · 11-08-2007, 01:37 PM

At the vinegar:calcium ratio I used something like 36% more calcium dissolves and is available to use. I used vinegar before (about 1/2) but I think the slow rate of drip made a lot of difference too.

11-08-2007, 12:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	yet another Kalk thread I did an intersting experiment this week with my Kalkwasser. I read reefscapes.net (the article isn't there anymore) that if you drip Kalkwasser too fast and there's not enough Carbon Dioxide in the water that the Bicarbonatae ions will be converted to Carbonate ions and calcium level and alkalinity will actually go down. That's the problem I've been having for a while, my calc has been hard to keep above 380 and my Dkh was staying at 7. I slowed the drip from 1 drip/3/4-1sec to 1 drip/ 1.5 seconds. The calc level on monday was 380 and alk was between 7&8, this morning I checked and the calc level is 425, DKh9. The solution I used was made by dissolving 1 tbs Mrs. Wages Pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) in 24ml vinegar, then mixing that with one gallon RODI water and dripping at the above rate, one gal/day. The author of the article recommended using 15ml vinegar/1/2 tsp calcium hydroxide/quart RODI. I didn't want to go that strong right out of the chute, so I used less vinegar. Has anyone else tried this? I'm so surprised at how effective it was just slowing the drip. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

11-08-2007, 12:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
reefman420 Elegance coral Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minneapolis Posts: 1,085 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: yet another Kalk thread use the viniger/r0di,and kalk and i have no problems,i drip 1 gallon into a 75 gallon.1 drip every 2 mississippi,it works great. __________________ 155 oceanic bow front,20 long refuge packed with caluerpa and mangroves,40 gallon sump,175lbs LR,3x250 watt xm 10ks,aqua-c remora,and pro-clear 150 skimmers sailfin tang,kole tang,royal gramma,cinnimon clown,2xpink skunk clowns,six line wrasse,mandarin, 155 bow coral-orange montipora cap,superman monti cap,scripps green polyped staghorn,ORA pink poccilipora,ORA blue millipora,green slimer,yellow UK acro,pink birdsnest,armor of god zoas,various zoas and shrooms,hammer,frogspawn,clove polyps,favite,fancey toadstool,reg toadstool,yellow leather,purple leather,devils hand,2 types xenia,ricordea florida,ricordea yuma,kenya tree,galaxia,bubble coral,button polyps inverts are lots of snails and hermits,crocea clam,maxima clam and seabae anemone,rbta

11-08-2007, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: yet another Kalk thread oo ooo ooo!!! i have never hard to mix it w/ vinigar?!?! what does that do? what type of vinigar are you using? __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

11-08-2007, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
reefman420 Elegance coral Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minneapolis Posts: 1,085 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: yet another Kalk thread distilled white viniger,it helps use up all the calcium.makeing it a more potent mix,think of it as first its whisky,add vin. and its moonshine lol __________________ 155 oceanic bow front,20 long refuge packed with caluerpa and mangroves,40 gallon sump,175lbs LR,3x250 watt xm 10ks,aqua-c remora,and pro-clear 150 skimmers sailfin tang,kole tang,royal gramma,cinnimon clown,2xpink skunk clowns,six line wrasse,mandarin, 155 bow coral-orange montipora cap,superman monti cap,scripps green polyped staghorn,ORA pink poccilipora,ORA blue millipora,green slimer,yellow UK acro,pink birdsnest,armor of god zoas,various zoas and shrooms,hammer,frogspawn,clove polyps,favite,fancey toadstool,reg toadstool,yellow leather,purple leather,devils hand,2 types xenia,ricordea florida,ricordea yuma,kenya tree,galaxia,bubble coral,button polyps inverts are lots of snails and hermits,crocea clam,maxima clam and seabae anemone,rbta

11-08-2007, 01:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: yet another Kalk thread darn tootin!! moonshine is freggin dank!! __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

11-08-2007, 01:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: yet another Kalk thread At the vinegar:calcium ratio I used something like 36% more calcium dissolves and is available to use. I used vinegar before (about 1/2) but I think the slow rate of drip made a lot of difference too. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

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