Fighting Nudi

Techno-Vicki · 07-23-2007, 03:52 PM

I have a small nudi problem in my 125 (not in the 175 though), zoa eating nudi. So far I have tried the following with some success:
1. fresh water dips - did this for 3 weeks and qt'd the zoas. Put them back, and still had a few.
2. Flat worm exit - this is very recent. Did it for 3 dips 6 days apart to get the hatched eggs. Just put them back. I do not see any of those little buggers, but....
3. I recently put in yellow coris wrasse. The first 2 just jumped out and well you can figure out the rest. So I decided to try to add 4 at a time and see what happens. Well, so far 3 have decide to come out of the sand after about a week. It is my understanding that they are the best at hunting nudies. They are a beautiful fish and I am very pleased to say that my mystery wrasse is leaving them alone. They are not going to the top of the tank and seem to be hunting 'bugs' or some kind. I put all the zoas back into the tank and they are slowly opening back up after their flat worm dosing.

Now, any other ideas? I really want to propagate zoas, but I want to make sure they don't carry bugs before offering them to others. I am really hoping that the coris wrasses will do their job. Here is a couple of pics with them doing their job.

Ok Lynn, let's see if I can post these pics

lcstorc · 07-23-2007, 03:59 PM

OHH They are pretty.

And since I wasn't awake enough for my usual directions this morning, here is how you do it.
Once the pic is loaded into your gallery click on the pic so it is the big one in the middle of the screen. Then scroll down a bit and you will see a button that says copy to clipboard. Click the button. Now the link is in your windows clipboard. Just go back to your post and paste. Wala your pic will be there.

Wish I could be of some help on the nudi problem but I have never had to deal with them. Hopefully others will have some good ideas.
BTW good title choice. You should get some attention to the thread anyway.

Techno-Vicki · 07-23-2007, 09:02 PM

Thanks Lynn, I think I can post pics now. I am hoping this thread is looked at just so I can get other ideas. Please anyone who has solved the nudi problem let me know. I really love zoas, but nudis can take them out pretty fast.

goldenmean · 07-23-2007, 09:20 PM

I have not had to deal with the zoa eating nudis but I have always read that repeated FW dips is the way. You have to do repeated dips as the FW will not kill the eggs. Eggs are laid on the stalk of the zoanthid in a spiral shape and can be removed manually.

Seems like this is what you have been doing.
You just have to remain persistant with the FW dips
Good luck!

Boomer · 07-23-2007, 10:02 PM

How many of them do you have anway ? Are you sure these are nudi's. Got a pic of one ?

Techno-Vicki · 07-24-2007, 10:02 AM

Goldenmean, I think you are right, I just hate keeping them in the QT tank for so long. After about 3 weeks, they begin to deteriorate; they lose color, gain algae, and begin to develop that white fungi.

Boomer, this is the second time I have done battle with the little buggers. I don't have a pic this time, but I can promise you that is what they are. I pulled off all the eggs that I could see, but I always wonder about those that may be on rocks that I missed. I will keep with the FWD.

Thanks guys.

Boomer · 07-24-2007, 11:46 AM

OK, You just have something likeTritoniopsis sp

Sea Slug from Japan --- Tritoniopsis elegans

Techno-Vicki · 07-24-2007, 02:43 PM

Hopefully, here is a picture of the ones I have found.

Techno-Vicki · 07-24-2007, 02:44 PM

Hey, I did it!!! Thanks for the lesson Lynn.

Dentoid · 07-24-2007, 02:58 PM

That looks like a nasty! Can't you pick them out with a pair of tweezers. That one looks prime for the pickin'!

lcstorc · 07-24-2007, 02:59 PM

Congrats. It's easy once you know how. Woodstock had to tell me or I wouldn't have figured it out either. That's why I try to teach others. The old pass it on theory.
Before Boomer asks any chance of a pic from the top? He may know based on that pic but I am sure a pic from the top would help.

Techno-Vicki · 07-26-2007, 10:18 AM

That was a pic from the first round a few months ago. I can't find any at the moment - hopefully, I don't and the dips worked. We shall see.........

Dentoid · 07-26-2007, 10:19 AM

You got any amorous nudis?

Boomer · 07-26-2007, 10:54 AM

Ah, we have had number of diccusoins on these on RC the Cuthona sp

Cuthona - Google Image Search

07-23-2007, 03:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Fighting Nudi I have a small nudi problem in my 125 (not in the 175 though), zoa eating nudi. So far I have tried the following with some success: 1. fresh water dips - did this for 3 weeks and qt'd the zoas. Put them back, and still had a few. 2. Flat worm exit - this is very recent. Did it for 3 dips 6 days apart to get the hatched eggs. Just put them back. I do not see any of those little buggers, but.... 3. I recently put in yellow coris wrasse. The first 2 just jumped out and well you can figure out the rest. So I decided to try to add 4 at a time and see what happens. Well, so far 3 have decide to come out of the sand after about a week. It is my understanding that they are the best at hunting nudies. They are a beautiful fish and I am very pleased to say that my mystery wrasse is leaving them alone. They are not going to the top of the tank and seem to be hunting 'bugs' or some kind. I put all the zoas back into the tank and they are slowly opening back up after their flat worm dosing. Now, any other ideas? I really want to propagate zoas, but I want to make sure they don't carry bugs before offering them to others. I am really hoping that the coris wrasses will do their job. Here is a couple of pics with them doing their job. Ok Lynn, let's see if I can post these pics

07-23-2007, 03:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,528 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi OHH They are pretty. And since I wasn't awake enough for my usual directions this morning, here is how you do it. Once the pic is loaded into your gallery click on the pic so it is the big one in the middle of the screen. Then scroll down a bit and you will see a button that says copy to clipboard. Click the button. Now the link is in your windows clipboard. Just go back to your post and paste. Wala your pic will be there. Wish I could be of some help on the nudi problem but I have never had to deal with them. Hopefully others will have some good ideas. BTW good title choice. You should get some attention to the thread anyway. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

07-23-2007, 09:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi Thanks Lynn, I think I can post pics now. I am hoping this thread is looked at just so I can get other ideas. Please anyone who has solved the nudi problem let me know. I really love zoas, but nudis can take them out pretty fast.

07-23-2007, 09:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,064 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi I have not had to deal with the zoa eating nudis but I have always read that repeated FW dips is the way. You have to do repeated dips as the FW will not kill the eggs. Eggs are laid on the stalk of the zoanthid in a spiral shape and can be removed manually. Seems like this is what you have been doing. You just have to remain persistant with the FW dips Good luck! __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My Second Quarantine Tank 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

07-23-2007, 10:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,072 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fighting Nudi How many of them do you have anway ? Are you sure these are nudi's. Got a pic of one ? __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

07-24-2007, 10:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi Goldenmean, I think you are right, I just hate keeping them in the QT tank for so long. After about 3 weeks, they begin to deteriorate; they lose color, gain algae, and begin to develop that white fungi. Boomer, this is the second time I have done battle with the little buggers. I don't have a pic this time, but I can promise you that is what they are. I pulled off all the eggs that I could see, but I always wonder about those that may be on rocks that I missed. I will keep with the FWD. Thanks guys.

07-24-2007, 11:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,072 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fighting Nudi OK, You just have something likeTritoniopsis sp Sea Slug from Japan --- Tritoniopsis elegans __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

07-24-2007, 02:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi Hopefully, here is a picture of the ones I have found.

07-24-2007, 02:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi Hey, I did it!!! Thanks for the lesson Lynn.

07-24-2007, 02:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fighting Nudi That looks like a nasty! Can't you pick them out with a pair of tweezers. That one looks prime for the pickin'! __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

07-24-2007, 02:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,528 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi Congrats. It's easy once you know how. Woodstock had to tell me or I wouldn't have figured it out either. That's why I try to teach others. The old pass it on theory. Before Boomer asks any chance of a pic from the top? He may know based on that pic but I am sure a pic from the top would help. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

07-26-2007, 10:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,089 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Fighting Nudi That was a pic from the first round a few months ago. I can't find any at the moment - hopefully, I don't and the dips worked. We shall see.........

07-26-2007, 10:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fighting Nudi You got any amorous nudis? __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

07-26-2007, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,072 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Fighting Nudi Ah, we have had number of diccusoins on these on RC the Cuthona sp Cuthona - Google Image Search __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

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