Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers - Page 3

lcstorc · 02-11-2007, 05:46 PM

Well since it's topic of the month for Feb, I hope not.

sasquatch · 02-11-2007, 07:23 PM

ok then. checks and balances. at RS we are lucky to have the experiance of many, the fear of making a wrong statement is compensated by the fact this board is gentle and eager to explain and inform, what would be really cool is if your local LFS had an open account to Reef Sanctuary for public use or guided by owner/employee. Steve(I want 10%) lol

BEELZEBOB · 02-13-2007, 07:28 PM

my questions when going into a new fish store are.

do you have a refractometer? (im in colorado so i dont know if that has anything to do with it but man im supprised how many are just like huh?)

can i keep that hippo tang in my 30gallon

can i put that carpet anenome in my 10 gal?

how do i lower nitrates?

ive been cycling my tank for 3 months with LR and sand, when doi ad the salt?

just kinda ask them questions you alredy know the answers to i guess. provoke them into missinforming you then call them out on itin front of the whole store HA HA!

Witfull · 02-13-2007, 07:43 PM

i dont want to end topics,,,,maybe i should wait till the 30th to reply~

bob, good questions.

as for LFS and RS. we have a poster in one store, others in my area dont like the idea....RS is smarter than them so we dont want you mentality. is a shame, but i can understand it,,,cause its true~~

lcstorc · 02-14-2007, 10:48 AM

My lfs encourages people to research and investigate. If I ask a question about a fish or coral he will reach for his books and we look it up together. Then he adds his personal experiences and I can use his laptop to research.
I think I am spoiled. It is a one man shop so you are always dealing with the owner who is also a hobyist. He is also a smart business man who is more concerned about keeping your business than making the quick sale.

bluespotjawfish · 02-16-2007, 09:19 AM

A fish store that is so well connected that they can find me a Bluespot to buy when others can't! (Sorry Lynn, couldn't resist.)

saltwaterfarm · 02-16-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluespotjawfish

A fish store that is so well connected that they can find me a Bluespot to buy when others can't! (Sorry Lynn, couldn't resist.)

LOL, you are lucky.

bluespotjawfish · 02-16-2007, 06:59 PM

Yes I am, and didn't even know it until recently.

ramora · 03-31-2008, 06:04 PM

I have been in the hobby 12 years{freshwater}New to the reef hobby and I find that the best way to find a good advisor is first do research on your own
using books,magazines,forums like this one and ask alot of questions from many different sources and compare notes. You will find many different methods but also alot of similar methods. In the case of lfs it would be wise to steer clear
of large corporations and stick to smaller shops. Also ask alot of questions start with the easy then ask more advanced.Yeah I know I like to give the pet stores I shop at the third degree. Where I would start is by asking is how long they have been in the hobby.

Tru2nr · 03-31-2008, 08:14 PM

Heres my #1 opinion for anyone trying to find a LFS...first look up all of the LFS's around you...then see if there are any salt specific stores...if so i would go to that one first as in my experience salt only stores are far more knowledgeable then your standard pet store...no salt specific stores...search for aquarium specific stores..go down your list that ways...chances are for a new person if you go into a petco to buy ur stuff vrs a salt only store you will be steered wrong more often then not...ask questions that you already know the answer to...like will a Butterfly eat corals....will a lionfish eat my baby clown...find people who live near you that are in the hobby and see what they're opinion is...for example if i go into an a specific semi-chain aquarium store origionally founded by petland with the initials A.A. i will only deal with one or two people because the rest i know for a fact are a bunch of bs'rs...over herd a guy sellin someone a juvi yellow tang for a 20g nano system...and i make sure anyone i know that they know who to talk to

burning2nd · 04-05-2008, 07:04 AM

i simply cross refrence stuff with the same question at another fourm...

and use my own exsperence

Jimw369 · 04-09-2008, 10:25 PM

Last time I checked there were 697 ways to have a successful reef tank. I found a couple great looking tanks in a local club and talked to the owners. Then I went and looked at their tanks in person. Went over their set ups with a fine tooth comb and copied them. If you are waiting for the "correct advice" you wont even get water in your tank. Pick a mentor, copy them.
The best way to walk thru a minefield is behind somebody. Your LFS is your suppy store when you are in a bind. Not for sound advice. IMO

Dentoid · 04-09-2008, 10:28 PM

Good advice Jim. What do you do when your mentor gets blown-up?

Frankie · 04-09-2008, 10:37 PM

LFS= local fish supply. I only use them when i need something i know i need. Like food, medication and the random frag i spot when buying these items. I use to be a huge supporter of my lfs in NY but since moving I came to realize a store like that only exits there. I would hate to be just starting out in this hobby in todays lfs world. Thank goodness for the internet!

Frankie · 04-09-2008, 10:38 PM

Scott, you following me around?!

02-11-2007, 05:46 PM	#31 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 16,449 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers Well since it's topic of the month for Feb, I hope not. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g Jawfish enjoyment ASM answer girl. Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

02-11-2007, 07:23 PM	#32 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,507 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers ok then. checks and balances. at RS we are lucky to have the experiance of many, the fear of making a wrong statement is compensated by the fact this board is gentle and eager to explain and inform, what would be really cool is if your local LFS had an open account to Reef Sanctuary for public use or guided by owner/employee. Steve(I want 10%) lol __________________ DIY stuff for my tank stand, 100g tank,rock lift, overflow, foam walls, closed loop,lighting reflectors, 50gal sump, bubbletrap and sock holder, ato bracket,kalk bucket and reservoir, 40gal fuge, fuge lighting, remotish dsb raceway, turf algae raceway, dual pumped recirc skimmer, more to follow. Barb ripped my sig

02-14-2007, 10:48 AM	#35 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 16,449 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers My lfs encourages people to research and investigate. If I ask a question about a fish or coral he will reach for his books and we look it up together. Then he adds his personal experiences and I can use his laptop to research. I think I am spoiled. It is a one man shop so you are always dealing with the owner who is also a hobyist. He is also a smart business man who is more concerned about keeping your business than making the quick sale. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g Jawfish enjoyment ASM answer girl. Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

02-16-2007, 09:19 AM	#36 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 3,838 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers A fish store that is so well connected that they can find me a Bluespot to buy when others can't! (Sorry Lynn, couldn't resist.) __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

02-16-2007, 06:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 3,838 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers Yes I am, and didn't even know it until recently. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

03-31-2008, 06:04 PM	#39 (permalink)
ramora Limpet Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: albert lea minnesota Posts: 133 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers I have been in the hobby 12 years{freshwater}New to the reef hobby and I find that the best way to find a good advisor is first do research on your own using books,magazines,forums like this one and ask alot of questions from many different sources and compare notes. You will find many different methods but also alot of similar methods. In the case of lfs it would be wise to steer clear of large corporations and stick to smaller shops. Also ask alot of questions start with the easy then ask more advanced.Yeah I know I like to give the pet stores I shop at the third degree. Where I would start is by asking is how long they have been in the hobby.

03-31-2008, 08:14 PM	#40 (permalink)
Tru2nr Achilles Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 836 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers Heres my #1 opinion for anyone trying to find a LFS...first look up all of the LFS's around you...then see if there are any salt specific stores...if so i would go to that one first as in my experience salt only stores are far more knowledgeable then your standard pet store...no salt specific stores...search for aquarium specific stores..go down your list that ways...chances are for a new person if you go into a petco to buy ur stuff vrs a salt only store you will be steered wrong more often then not...ask questions that you already know the answer to...like will a Butterfly eat corals....will a lionfish eat my baby clown...find people who live near you that are in the hobby and see what they're opinion is...for example if i go into an a specific semi-chain aquarium store origionally founded by petland with the initials A.A. i will only deal with one or two people because the rest i know for a fact are a bunch of bs'rs...over herd a guy sellin someone a juvi yellow tang for a 20g nano system...and i make sure anyone i know that they know who to talk to __________________ My Addiction Chronical...a.k.a my slowly building reef tank Mistakes Have been made in the past.....still trying to clean up from them in the present....mistakes will be made in the future.....so what do we do?...... we party until we make another mistake!!!!

04-05-2008, 07:04 AM	#41 (permalink)
burning2nd Acropora Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pocono PA Posts: 1,796 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers i simply cross refrence stuff with the same question at another fourm... and use my own exsperence __________________ ________________________________________________ 30g, 10g DIY sump w/ mag7 Csr90 over flow. 36" sunpod 2x150 2 Tunze 6020 40 Lb's Live Rock 20 lb's of Ls Aqua C REmora mIxed reef, softies, pora's, clams, 1 Amphiprion ocellaris (hosting GTA) 2 cromies and one dragon jake the jedi sexy shrimp, and brown bob

04-09-2008, 10:25 PM	#42 (permalink)
Jimw369 Tubeworm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers Last time I checked there were 697 ways to have a successful reef tank. I found a couple great looking tanks in a local club and talked to the owners. Then I went and looked at their tanks in person. Went over their set ups with a fine tooth comb and copied them. If you are waiting for the "correct advice" you wont even get water in your tank. Pick a mentor, copy them. The best way to walk thru a minefield is behind somebody. Your LFS is your suppy store when you are in a bind. Not for sound advice. IMO

04-09-2008, 10:28 PM	#43 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,587 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers Good advice Jim. What do you do when your mentor gets blown-up? __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

04-09-2008, 10:37 PM	#44 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers LFS= local fish supply. I only use them when i need something i know i need. Like food, medication and the random frag i spot when buying these items. I use to be a huge supporter of my lfs in NY but since moving I came to realize a store like that only exits there. I would hate to be just starting out in this hobby in todays lfs world. Thank goodness for the internet! __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

04-09-2008, 10:38 PM	#45 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 6,035 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Topic of the Month 02/07 - Sorting Good from Bad Advisers Scott, you following me around?! __________________ Visit my aquarium -->Frankie's 120 gal Experiment Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will go away....

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