**~~DOW - How to Quiet Your Tank~~**

Cosmic · 12-16-2003, 05:17 PM

[size=huge]WELCOME[/size] to this week's [size=huge]DOW[/size], [size=huge] How to Quiet Your Tank[/size]!!!

This weeks Topic will discuss various methods and means of going about making that noisy monstrosity into a purring kitty! Learn about Durso standpipes, submerged vs. unsubmerged drain outlets, how to remove that "gurgle", and More!

If you have come up with your own ideas, Post those as well, because I'm sure there are a lot of people wondering HOW you did it!

So come one, come all to this weeks' [size=huge]DOW[/size].

NaH2O · 12-16-2003, 05:32 PM

Along for the ride on this one.

Maxx · 12-16-2003, 06:23 PM

One thing I've used in the past....mousepads under external pumps to quiet vibration noises.
Nick

ReefLady · 12-16-2003, 07:30 PM

Put everything in the basement.

Witfull · 12-16-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ReefLady
Put everything in the basement.

i would if i had one!!

Pro_builder · 12-16-2003, 07:46 PM

Instead of running your drain (to the sump) from the Durso Standpipe with 90 degree elbows make your turns with 45 degree elbows. Then put a "T" at the end so the air can escape separately from the water. This will stop the splashing sound in the pipe, and the bubbling sound from the air.

On the air valve on the top of the Durso Standpipe, put a peice of air line on the vavle. this stops the sucking(whistling) sound from the air vavle.

Make the water in the overflow about 1" below the tank level, this will slow the water flowing into the overflow, but also stops the splashing (Waterfall)sounds.

wooddood · 12-16-2003, 07:49 PM

in the wall with a fish room behind it and well insulated,a basement is good to if you have one.lol thanks wit.

pista01 · 12-16-2003, 07:51 PM

What about return pumps? Which one are quieter? Is it better to have a smaller return pump and use a closed loop for the needed circulation?

Pro_builder · 12-16-2003, 07:51 PM

Oh, you can also wrap your drain pipes with Pipe insulation, the foam style. To quiet the draining sounds

wooddood · 12-16-2003, 07:53 PM

pista i think that is one of the solutions and a very good one.

jimeluiz · 12-16-2003, 08:01 PM

We have the tank on a hardwood floor. So first we put down a recycled rubber mat (cut to size), between the floor and the stand. Then we used a foam bath mat between the sump and the inside of the stand. Then we put rubbermaid dishmats between the skimmer and pumps and the inside of the sump.

I bought a submergable return pump thinking it might be quieter.

I spent a little more to buy an IceCap exhaust fan - said to be quieter than the cheaper PC vent fans from Radio Shack.

Our Durso Standpipe made a BIG difference, and we have the water level way high like Pro mentions. We're still struggling with the air sucking sound at the top. It has a fluttery sound as the air goes into the pipe. Pro_builder - please say more about the air valve addition. What is the valve called? Where can I get one? (I am NOT the DIYer type, but pretty handy.)

Also Pro - do you have a picture of the T at the bottom of your return? All I've been able to do to reduce that noise is raise the water level of the sump & make sure my return pipe is below the surface - and using a filter sock at the end of the return pipe has both muffled the sound as well as nearly eliminated micro-bubbles.

Finally, we have cut some foam core board to size to close off the back of the hood (with openings for the fan and air intake) and it has helped to "trap" some of the fluttery sound from the Durso.) Over heating is really not an issue here in San Francisco - year 'round mild temperatures.

All that and I still would like it to be quieter. (And I am afraid to visit the poor 90 year old woman who lives in the apartment below us -- she may be living with a constant buzz from above. Sorry Miss Lilly

RogueCorps · 12-16-2003, 08:08 PM

A diatom bag on the line to your sump can quiet any splashing, reduce salt-creep, and keep your water crystal clear. They can be hanged above the water line and will overflow when clogged. Buy two and rinse and throw dirty ones in the washing machine with your tank-towels.

-R

Craig Manoukian · 12-16-2003, 08:12 PM

Ditto on the pictures please Troy!

Pro_builder · 12-16-2003, 08:39 PM

Jimeluiz,
Here are a few pictures of the "T" that I have on the bottom of my drain line. As you can see the the water flows out the T and also sucks water in fro mthe branch on the T. This makes for a full 1" line of water.

Pro_builder · 12-16-2003, 08:42 PM

Ok everyon, I'm trying.
Here is the link t the valves that I am using on the top of the Durso Standpipe.
Air Valves

Here is a picture of the setup, if you want more pics let me know.

12-16-2003, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cosmic Star Polyps Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 173 View Gallery Karma Komment	~~DOW - How to Quiet Your Tank~~ [size=huge]WELCOME[/size] to this week's [size=huge]DOW[/size], [size=huge] How to Quiet Your Tank[/size]!!! This weeks Topic will discuss various methods and means of going about making that noisy monstrosity into a purring kitty! Learn about Durso standpipes, submerged vs. unsubmerged drain outlets, how to remove that "gurgle", and More! If you have come up with your own ideas, Post those as well, because I'm sure there are a lot of people wondering HOW you did it! So come one, come all to this weeks' [size=huge]DOW[/size].

12-16-2003, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,928 View Gallery Karma Komment	Along for the ride on this one. __________________ ~Nikki~

12-16-2003, 06:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	One thing I've used in the past....mousepads under external pumps to quiet vibration noises. Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

12-16-2003, 07:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
ReefLady Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 2,029 View Gallery Karma Komment	Put everything in the basement. __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice."

12-16-2003, 07:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Instead of running your drain (to the sump) from the Durso Standpipe with 90 degree elbows make your turns with 45 degree elbows. Then put a "T" at the end so the air can escape separately from the water. This will stop the splashing sound in the pipe, and the bubbling sound from the air. On the air valve on the top of the Durso Standpipe, put a peice of air line on the vavle. this stops the sucking(whistling) sound from the air vavle. Make the water in the overflow about 1" below the tank level, this will slow the water flowing into the overflow, but also stops the splashing (Waterfall)sounds. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-16-2003, 07:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	in the wall with a fish room behind it and well insulated,a basement is good to if you have one.lol thanks wit. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

12-16-2003, 07:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
pista01 Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Taylor, Mi Posts: 83 View Gallery Karma Komment	What about return pumps? Which one are quieter? Is it better to have a smaller return pump and use a closed loop for the needed circulation?

12-16-2003, 07:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Oh, you can also wrap your drain pipes with Pipe insulation, the foam style. To quiet the draining sounds __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-16-2003, 07:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	pista i think that is one of the solutions and a very good one. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

12-16-2003, 08:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
jimeluiz Achilles Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Niteroi, Brasil Posts: 829 View Gallery Karma Komment	We have the tank on a hardwood floor. So first we put down a recycled rubber mat (cut to size), between the floor and the stand. Then we used a foam bath mat between the sump and the inside of the stand. Then we put rubbermaid dishmats between the skimmer and pumps and the inside of the sump. I bought a submergable return pump thinking it might be quieter. I spent a little more to buy an IceCap exhaust fan - said to be quieter than the cheaper PC vent fans from Radio Shack. Our Durso Standpipe made a BIG difference, and we have the water level way high like Pro mentions. We're still struggling with the air sucking sound at the top. It has a fluttery sound as the air goes into the pipe. Pro_builder - please say more about the air valve addition. What is the valve called? Where can I get one? (I am NOT the DIYer type, but pretty handy.) Also Pro - do you have a picture of the T at the bottom of your return? All I've been able to do to reduce that noise is raise the water level of the sump & make sure my return pipe is below the surface - and using a filter sock at the end of the return pipe has both muffled the sound as well as nearly eliminated micro-bubbles. Finally, we have cut some foam core board to size to close off the back of the hood (with openings for the fan and air intake) and it has helped to "trap" some of the fluttery sound from the Durso.) Over heating is really not an issue here in San Francisco - year 'round mild temperatures. All that and I still would like it to be quieter. (And I am afraid to visit the poor 90 year old woman who lives in the apartment below us -- she may be living with a constant buzz from above. Sorry Miss Lilly __________________ Sold the tank prior to our move. Setting up our new life in Brazil.

12-16-2003, 08:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
RogueCorps Midas Blenny Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 106 View Gallery Karma Komment	A diatom bag on the line to your sump can quiet any splashing, reduce salt-creep, and keep your water crystal clear. They can be hanged above the water line and will overflow when clogged. Buy two and rinse and throw dirty ones in the washing machine with your tank-towels. -R __________________ Mantis Shrimp Rights Activist - Have you hugged your stomatopod today?

12-16-2003, 08:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,252 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Ditto on the pictures please Troy! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-16-2003, 08:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Jimeluiz, Here are a few pictures of the "T" that I have on the bottom of my drain line. As you can see the the water flows out the T and also sucks water in fro mthe branch on the T. This makes for a full 1" line of water. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-16-2003, 08:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Ok everyon, I'm trying. Here is the link t the valves that I am using on the top of the Durso Standpipe. Air Valves Here is a picture of the setup, if you want more pics let me know. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

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