Help with Refuge.

angnak · 12-16-2003, 02:06 PM

I have a 55gl refuge/sump under my 210 and I hve it sectioned off with acrylic partition walls. Left side being the where the water enters and where the skimmer and all that is, the middle is where the caulerpa and dsb will be going, and the return on the right. Some my problem is that there is a leak on each side at the bottom of the walls leaking into the dsb. I can not get my arm in there to seal this off. Does any one see a problem or future problem with this?

Pro_builder · 12-16-2003, 02:39 PM

I have a few question on this before I completely answer your question.
1: How bad are the leaks? Is it a Steady Stream or just seaping?

The reason that I ask is if something was to plug the overflow, and the leaks were large enough to keep water supplied to the pump you could overflow your tank, and have water on the floor.

2: Is this setup running now?
If not, now is the time to fix the leaks if you think that they could cause a problem.

Other than that foreseen problem, I don't think that you will have a problem.

angnak · 12-16-2003, 02:42 PM

It is more of a seap. The system is not running yet. I have tried to fix it many, many times. I just can't seem to get my arm in there good enough to get to the exact spot. I have slowed it down though. It is now a seap.

Pro_builder · 12-16-2003, 02:45 PM

Then I don't think I would worry about it. It is all still contained with in the sump, so no water on the floor problem.
I would let it go, if it was me.

mwrager · 12-16-2003, 04:41 PM

I am with Troy on this. I dont see a problem.

ste · 12-16-2003, 06:38 PM

i also see no problems with a leak like that

TDEVIL · 12-16-2003, 07:18 PM

as stated above, i dont see a prob with this either

if it realy drives you nuts, you could use a straw

put the straw on the end of the glue tube and squirt it down to where you need it, then wet the straw and use it to smooth the glue, this will waste some glue but it is better than driving you nuts

(kinda tired and my brain is shot) this is the only thing i could think of right now

TD

NaH2O · 12-17-2003, 12:30 AM

TD, nice idea!

Craig Manoukian · 12-17-2003, 02:02 AM

Great suggestion TD! Will use that myself when needed!

angnak · 12-17-2003, 09:18 AM

Thanks everyone. TD, it is driving me crazy. I will try that. Thanks for the great idea.

Pro_builder · 12-17-2003, 09:36 AM

You can also buy silicone in a small tube, if that will get you in there.
If it is Acrylic, and not looking for strength, you can take a syringe and a hard piece of airline tubing. hook the airline tubing to the syringe and heat the airline tubing to bend it to the formation that you need t be able to get to the leak.
Then suck out some PVC Glue into the syringe and then aply it to the leak slowly. I have done this too. It takes a few applications to get this done, since the PVC Glue it sorta thin. It will melt the Acrylic and seal the leak, it just doesn't have a strong holding ability on Acrylic.
Sorry I mis undertood, I didn't know it was driving you nuts to have this leak.

You are a lot like me, I have to have everything perfect or it is time to redo it.

HTH

12-16-2003, 02:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
angnak Torch coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 556 View Gallery Karma Komment	Help with Refuge. I have a 55gl refuge/sump under my 210 and I hve it sectioned off with acrylic partition walls. Left side being the where the water enters and where the skimmer and all that is, the middle is where the caulerpa and dsb will be going, and the return on the right. Some my problem is that there is a leak on each side at the bottom of the walls leaking into the dsb. I can not get my arm in there to seal this off. Does any one see a problem or future problem with this?

12-16-2003, 02:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	I have a few question on this before I completely answer your question. 1: How bad are the leaks? Is it a Steady Stream or just seaping? The reason that I ask is if something was to plug the overflow, and the leaks were large enough to keep water supplied to the pump you could overflow your tank, and have water on the floor. 2: Is this setup running now? If not, now is the time to fix the leaks if you think that they could cause a problem. Other than that foreseen problem, I don't think that you will have a problem. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-16-2003, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
angnak Torch coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 556 View Gallery Karma Komment	It is more of a seap. The system is not running yet. I have tried to fix it many, many times. I just can't seem to get my arm in there good enough to get to the exact spot. I have slowed it down though. It is now a seap. __________________ 210gal AGA SW tank. 3 250w MH 4 160w VHOs, 30 gal refuge, ASM Skimmer, Orange shoulder tang, Black tang, Naso tang, 2 orange percs, 2 black percs, 1 lawnmower blenny, a pair of scooter blennies, 5 cleaner shrimp, 5 peppermint shrimp, zebra crabs, halloween crabs, scarlett crabs, various other crabs and snails, 1 rock anemone, 2 colonies of button polyps, 3 colony of star polyps, 3 BTAs, monti cap, various acros

12-16-2003, 02:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Then I don't think I would worry about it. It is all still contained with in the sump, so no water on the floor problem. I would let it go, if it was me. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

12-16-2003, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
mwrager Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 1,068 View Gallery Karma Komment	I am with Troy on this. I dont see a problem. __________________ Mark Some days I realy feel old! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner3.gif

12-16-2003, 06:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
ste Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chapel-en-le-frith u.k Posts: 74 View Gallery Karma Komment	i also see no problems with a leak like that __________________ Ste

12-16-2003, 07:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
TDEVIL Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marion, INDIANA Posts: 1,170 View Gallery Karma Komment	as stated above, i dont see a prob with this either if it realy drives you nuts, you could use a straw put the straw on the end of the glue tube and squirt it down to where you need it, then wet the straw and use it to smooth the glue, this will waste some glue but it is better than driving you nuts (kinda tired and my brain is shot) this is the only thing i could think of right now TD __________________ my web site <-- needs updated

12-17-2003, 12:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,929 View Gallery Karma Komment	TD, nice idea! __________________ ~Nikki~

12-17-2003, 02:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Great suggestion TD! Will use that myself when needed! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

12-17-2003, 09:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
angnak Torch coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 556 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks everyone. TD, it is driving me crazy. I will try that. Thanks for the great idea. __________________ 210gal AGA SW tank. 3 250w MH 4 160w VHOs, 30 gal refuge, ASM Skimmer, Orange shoulder tang, Black tang, Naso tang, 2 orange percs, 2 black percs, 1 lawnmower blenny, a pair of scooter blennies, 5 cleaner shrimp, 5 peppermint shrimp, zebra crabs, halloween crabs, scarlett crabs, various other crabs and snails, 1 rock anemone, 2 colonies of button polyps, 3 colony of star polyps, 3 BTAs, monti cap, various acros

12-17-2003, 09:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	You can also buy silicone in a small tube, if that will get you in there. If it is Acrylic, and not looking for strength, you can take a syringe and a hard piece of airline tubing. hook the airline tubing to the syringe and heat the airline tubing to bend it to the formation that you need t be able to get to the leak. Then suck out some PVC Glue into the syringe and then aply it to the leak slowly. I have done this too. It takes a few applications to get this done, since the PVC Glue it sorta thin. It will melt the Acrylic and seal the leak, it just doesn't have a strong holding ability on Acrylic. Sorry I mis undertood, I didn't know it was driving you nuts to have this leak. You are a lot like me, I have to have everything perfect or it is time to redo it. HTH __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

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