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Old 12-26-2004, 04:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Best vitamin supplement

I will be making a new batch of homemade mush in a few weeks. What is the best vitamin supplement to use? What do you folks use?

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Old 12-26-2004, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've never put vitamins in mine. I figure they should be getting plenty from the fresh seafood anyways.
The mush we made ad the NC aquarium contained regular multivitamins. I don't remember the exact receipe though. I'm more of a buy as much fresh stuff as I can for $15 and blend it all togther kind of person. I'm gagging at the thought of it right now though.. excuse me... I'll be back...
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Old 12-26-2004, 07:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I use Zoe vitamins once or twice per week as an adder to my already fortified mysis shrimp I feed. As Mike pointed out, probably overkill.
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Old 12-26-2004, 07:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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all you people that feed your fish....makes me wonder,,,should i be doing this too??

im always leary of aditives,,they always lead to algae /me thinks
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No algea in my once/twice per week regimen. I thaw and drain the water off the mysis, add Zoe, then mix and wait ten minutes before it goes in the tank
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Old 12-27-2004, 09:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies! Anyone else??
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Old 12-27-2004, 10:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have added Zoe and or a bit of zoecon in the past. I did not notice a difference in the algae level of my tank.
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Zoe, Selcon, Garlic and Beta Glucan are all I can think of. I do usually add a few drops of Zoe and garlic to my mash. With the raw seafood, the selcon is probably not necessary. I have yet to add beta glucan to mash, but I think I will in the next batch. It is an excellent immune stimulant.
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Thanks! Beta glucan? explain plz
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"Beta Glucan is primarily cultured extract of Baker's Yeast cell wall. It is used as an immunostimulant. Beta glucans are sugar molecules (polysaccharides). They are found bound together as a sugar/protein complex. Certain plants and microorganisms are naturally high in this polysaccharide compound. The richest concentrated source is baker's yeast cell walls. (Because there is basically no yeast left in the products and they have low protein levels, it is considered hypoallergenic.) It is present in lesser amounts in mushroom extracts and Lentinen, Barley, Oat, etc. Sodium alginate is also an excellent source, but the high sodium content is a major drawback in the processing for supplemental use. An expensive research extract called Zymosan™ has been used for doing research for over 45 years. Much of the research has been in combining it with conventional approaches, such as chemotherapy, but it has been found to work well on its own.

What glucans seem to do is to stimulate/irritate your white blood cells called Macrophages into action. There is actually beta glucan receptors displayed by immune cells that the lectin fits right into like a lock and key and switches on or activates the macrophage to do it's job...clean up. Increased macrophage activity triggers a whole cascade of immune events, which basically boost immune response, which improves Natural Host Resistance. It also stimulates the production of immune cells."

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I'm assuming the last pragraph applies to fish as well.
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Old 12-27-2004, 06:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey Craig, your not a science guy right? You did a great job of explaining lectin/macrophage interaction! Thats pretty advanced stuff...

Or was the entire post from the cancer webpage? Either way, good info
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i add selcon and garlic extreme to my mush. I also use only fresh seafood for the mush. not sure if it makes a difference but everybody seems to be happy!!
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Thanks! Very interesting! I did a search and found a few interesting threads:

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...,10166,00.html

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...ff&oi=froogler
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I stole it fair and square Scott, thus the quotes and reference.
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