berlin sump

john · 11-05-2004, 07:59 AM

i have a 180 gallon reef tank and i have a nu-clear filter as my main filtration.ive been pretty happy with it but i have to replace the filter cartridge every 2 months at $50 a pop.i was considering replacing it with the berlin bs2 sump.does anyone have this orhave any info on its efficiency???any better ideas for a filter?? any info would be appreciated thanks a lot john

Travelin Reef · 11-05-2004, 10:52 AM

i have found that simpler is often best. a simple sump with an area for the tank to drain into ( just some floss or filter material )
a good skimmer and strong water flow coupled with good lights and frequent water changes are all that are mandatory.

ScottT1980 · 11-06-2004, 07:55 AM

I agree, a simple sump design is what I use/used. While it is easier to maintain, it is also much cheaper. I am a big fan of macro algae nutrient export so I utilize a classic Caluerpa refugium. Do you maintain a classic Berlin system or is it a modified Berlin setup?

Take er easy
Scott T.

john · 11-06-2004, 10:37 AM

i actually found a sump at windowtothesea.con.its called the eurofill .its basically a knock off of the berlin classic but for about half the price.i have a 180 gallon tank so im thinking of getting the 36'/12'/16' one thats rated for up to 240 gallon.

BoomerD · 11-06-2004, 05:55 PM

What about this one? Similar sump, rated for 250 gallons, not quite as long, but a bit wider:
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...idproduct=BS2K

30" x 14" x 16" $285. and marine Depot's customer service has been superior.

SZHTTM · 11-06-2004, 10:40 PM

Have you given any thought to making your own sump?

Some people making them out of an aquarium or even a rubbermaid container.

If you have items that require access through the sump (like an external water pump, skimmer, etc...), I would recommend talking to a local fish store to see if they can drill the holes for you (especially into a glass aquairum). They usually only charge about $20 to to $30 a hole.

Even with the store drilling holes for you, it will certainly save you a lot of money...

If you like, send Drill Sergeant a PM because he built his sump out of a regular 29-gallon aquarium.

You can also do a search on DIY sumps to see what you find.

Good Luck and Have Fun!!!;

Drill Sergeant · 11-06-2004, 10:56 PM

John

I did exactly what SZHTTM mentioned above. I went with a regular 30 gallon tank as a sump, and had the LFS drill a couple of holes into it for $20.00. I then installed to bulkheads to the holes, and thats all she wrote.

So far its worked great!!!!

DS

11-05-2004, 07:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
john Ricordea Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 188 View Gallery Karma Komment	berlin sump i have a 180 gallon reef tank and i have a nu-clear filter as my main filtration.ive been pretty happy with it but i have to replace the filter cartridge every 2 months at $50 a pop.i was considering replacing it with the berlin bs2 sump.does anyone have this orhave any info on its efficiency???any better ideas for a filter?? any info would be appreciated thanks a lot john

11-06-2004, 07:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
ScottT1980 Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,484 View Gallery Karma Komment	I agree, a simple sump design is what I use/used. While it is easier to maintain, it is also much cheaper. I am a big fan of macro algae nutrient export so I utilize a classic Caluerpa refugium. Do you maintain a classic Berlin system or is it a modified Berlin setup? Take er easy Scott T. __________________ My Tank

11-06-2004, 05:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,637 View Gallery Karma Komment	What about this one? Similar sump, rated for 250 gallons, not quite as long, but a bit wider: http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...idproduct=BS2K 30" x 14" x 16" $285. and marine Depot's customer service has been superior. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

11-06-2004, 10:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
SZHTTM Serpent Star Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Davie, FL. (South Florida) Posts: 203 View Gallery Karma Komment	Have you given any thought to making your own sump? Some people making them out of an aquarium or even a rubbermaid container. If you have items that require access through the sump (like an external water pump, skimmer, etc...), I would recommend talking to a local fish store to see if they can drill the holes for you (especially into a glass aquairum). They usually only charge about $20 to to $30 a hole. Even with the store drilling holes for you, it will certainly save you a lot of money... If you like, send Drill Sergeant a PM because he built his sump out of a regular 29-gallon aquarium. You can also do a search on DIY sumps to see what you find. Good Luck and Have Fun!!!; Last edited by SZHTTM : 11-06-2004 at 10:57 PM.

11-05-2004, 10:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
Travelin Reef Limpet Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: newton, nj Posts: 136 View Gallery Karma Komment	i have found that simpler is often best. a simple sump with an area for the tank to drain into ( just some floss or filter material ) a good skimmer and strong water flow coupled with good lights and frequent water changes are all that are mandatory.

11-06-2004, 10:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
john Ricordea Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 188 View Gallery Karma Komment	i actually found a sump at windowtothesea.con.its called the eurofill .its basically a knock off of the berlin classic but for about half the price.i have a 180 gallon tank so im thinking of getting the 36'/12'/16' one thats rated for up to 240 gallon.

11-06-2004, 10:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Drill Sergeant Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 84 View Gallery Karma Komment	John I did exactly what SZHTTM mentioned above. I went with a regular 30 gallon tank as a sump, and had the LFS drill a couple of holes into it for $20.00. I then installed to bulkheads to the holes, and thats all she wrote. So far its worked great!!!! DS

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