hatching brine shrimp??

newreefguy · 04-20-2009, 08:49 AM

I want a mandarin and to have him I've gotta build up pod populations in fuge (working on it...) I have roughly 65 lbs Lr in 55 gal, now my question is this.
I read this in a thread through google search and wanted to know if this hatching method is truth or bs....

"Manny (my mandarin) lives in my 40 L nano reef. I too was one of many people told this fish grazes off algae on your rock work, only to find out different. The store wouln't take him back and I couldn't just let the little guy die, so I searched for pods and began a pod farm in another tank. That was so much work, and he ate them so quick. The pods aren't that expensive, but the shipping is. So I researched other foods and was told brine shrimp. I know they have little, if any, nutritional value blah blah, *but* if fresh hatched, still with their yolk sack (within first 48 hours) they have plenty of nutrition and all it takes is 1 tsp brine shrimp eggs (available at most pet stores), 1 tsp table salt (non-iodized), a 1/2 liter bottle of drinking water and an air pump for circulation. I mix together and set by a regular table lamp for light and heat, then insert air tube for circulation. In about 24 hours pour brine into strainer (do not dump the bottled water into your tank) and I have fresh hatched baby brine for Manny. Also, recently I was feeding one of my corals frozen mysis shrimp (well, previously frozen, I thawed it) with an eye dropper and the coral missed the shrimp but Manny gobbled it right up. The trick seems to be that as long as it's moving he'll eat frozen food too. So I shoot a few shrimp in front of him and it's a feeding frenzy!"

cbrownfish · 04-20-2009, 03:44 PM

You are very fortunate if Manny takes frozen offerings. Good to hear.

I too hatch brine shrimp but more to add an additional "live" food source for my tank. I simply fill up a mason jar with tank water, add decapsulated brine eggs, insert an airstone for ~24 hours and Voila! Live brine shrimp.

Neptunesghost · 04-20-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrownfish

You are very fortunate if Manny takes frozen offerings. Good to hear.

I too hatch brine shrimp but more to add an additional "live" food source for my tank. I simply fill up a mason jar with tank water, add decapsulated brine eggs, insert an airstone for ~24 hours and Voila! Live brine shrimp.

What are decapsulated brine shrimp and how are they different?

newreefguy · 04-20-2009, 05:00 PM

Well that wasn't my post... it was some where else and I just wanted to see if it was really that easy.

Sapphire · 04-20-2009, 05:06 PM

Decapsulated essentially means the outer hard shell has been removed.

The advantages are meant to be - better hatching rate, higher nutritional value, and shells aren't introduced into the tank.

There's a link here (Just be aware t is a retails site!)

Hatching baby brine shrimp is certainly easy and feasible. They don't have much nutritional value though so best to get them in the tank as early as possible after hatching so you maximise the nutritional value you're getting. You can hatch them directly into the tank but you do increase the nutrients in the tank that way and may end up with some algae issues if you aren't careful. there're lots of ways to do it.

We hatch baby brine shrimp, and have a pod tank (I find that very easy) ands our mandarin also eats frozen - he didn't when we first got him but we were hatching baby brine shrimp into the tank and nocticed a few weks later he was taking frozen brine fed to the sun corals.

Neptunesghost · 04-20-2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newreefguy

Well that wasn't my post... it was some where else and I just wanted to see if it was really that easy.

Sorry...quoted the wrong one

newreefguy · 04-20-2009, 06:30 PM

Its fine... just didn't want anyone to get confused... can't you feed the shrimp phyto to pack nutrients ?

cbrownfish · 04-20-2009, 08:10 PM

Feeding Phytoplankton a few hours before feeding them to your tank is a way to "beef up" the baby brine.

Decapsulated brine --
Decapsulated Brine Shrimp Eggs | Frequently Asked Questions

Good article --
How to Harvest and Feed Baby Brine Shrimp to Your Tank by Marc Levenson - Reefkeeping.com

newreefguy · 04-20-2009, 09:38 PM

Very helpful link brown....

newreefguy · 04-20-2009, 09:51 PM

how do you make a new batch everyday if there life cycle is only useful for a couple days.. Can you freeze em ? or does putting them in a fridge slow down there growth rate enough so that I can go once a week until my pods are well established?

chip46 · 04-20-2009, 10:07 PM

I used to raise the baby shrimp to adult size. After they hatch I would give them a pinch of yeast. Yes what you make bread from. It did not cost much and lasted a long time. It turns the water murky, When it is clear you add more yeast again. I hear you can also add selcon before you feed them. This may be the longer the better for the shrimp to be more nutritional value.

04-20-2009, 08:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
newreefguy Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: asheville, Nc Posts: 407 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	hatching brine shrimp?? I want a mandarin and to have him I've gotta build up pod populations in fuge (working on it...) I have roughly 65 lbs Lr in 55 gal, now my question is this. I read this in a thread through google search and wanted to know if this hatching method is truth or bs.... "Manny (my mandarin) lives in my 40 L nano reef. I too was one of many people told this fish grazes off algae on your rock work, only to find out different. The store wouln't take him back and I couldn't just let the little guy die, so I searched for pods and began a pod farm in another tank. That was so much work, and he ate them so quick. The pods aren't that expensive, but the shipping is. So I researched other foods and was told brine shrimp. I know they have little, if any, nutritional value blah blah, but if fresh hatched, still with their yolk sack (within first 48 hours) they have plenty of nutrition and all it takes is 1 tsp brine shrimp eggs (available at most pet stores), 1 tsp table salt (non-iodized), a 1/2 liter bottle of drinking water and an air pump for circulation. I mix together and set by a regular table lamp for light and heat, then insert air tube for circulation. In about 24 hours pour brine into strainer (do not dump the bottled water into your tank) and I have fresh hatched baby brine for Manny. Also, recently I was feeding one of my corals frozen mysis shrimp (well, previously frozen, I thawed it) with an eye dropper and the coral missed the shrimp but Manny gobbled it right up. The trick seems to be that as long as it's moving he'll eat frozen food too. So I shoot a few shrimp in front of him and it's a feeding frenzy!" __________________ 55 gal, 10 gal aquarium support systems sump wet/dry filter , 15 gal refugium . 62+ lbs lr, 20 lbs live sand. Marine life support systems AND prizm pro dlx protein skimmers . Nova extreme HO t5 model 1081 (6 bulb-2 460nm actinic, 4 10000 k) ,koralia #2 & #4 circulation pumps (1800 gph total), hydor 300 watt heater,coralife day-night Timer/wavemaker, 2 yellow tail damsels,1 regal tang,

04-20-2009, 03:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
cbrownfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,624 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? You are very fortunate if Manny takes frozen offerings. Good to hear. I too hatch brine shrimp but more to add an additional "live" food source for my tank. I simply fill up a mason jar with tank water, add decapsulated brine eggs, insert an airstone for ~24 hours and Voila! Live brine shrimp. __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

04-20-2009, 05:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
newreefguy Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: asheville, Nc Posts: 407 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? Well that wasn't my post... it was some where else and I just wanted to see if it was really that easy.

04-20-2009, 05:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sapphire Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posts: 1,220 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? Decapsulated essentially means the outer hard shell has been removed. The advantages are meant to be - better hatching rate, higher nutritional value, and shells aren't introduced into the tank. There's a link here (Just be aware t is a retails site!) Hatching baby brine shrimp is certainly easy and feasible. They don't have much nutritional value though so best to get them in the tank as early as possible after hatching so you maximise the nutritional value you're getting. You can hatch them directly into the tank but you do increase the nutrients in the tank that way and may end up with some algae issues if you aren't careful. there're lots of ways to do it. We hatch baby brine shrimp, and have a pod tank (I find that very easy) ands our mandarin also eats frozen - he didn't when we first got him but we were hatching baby brine shrimp into the tank and nocticed a few weks later he was taking frozen brine fed to the sun corals.

04-20-2009, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
newreefguy Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: asheville, Nc Posts: 407 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? Its fine... just didn't want anyone to get confused... can't you feed the shrimp phyto to pack nutrients ?

04-20-2009, 08:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
cbrownfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,624 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? Feeding Phytoplankton a few hours before feeding them to your tank is a way to "beef up" the baby brine. Decapsulated brine -- Decapsulated Brine Shrimp Eggs \| Frequently Asked Questions Good article -- How to Harvest and Feed Baby Brine Shrimp to Your Tank by Marc Levenson - Reefkeeping.com __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

04-20-2009, 09:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
newreefguy Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: asheville, Nc Posts: 407 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? Very helpful link brown....

04-20-2009, 09:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
newreefguy Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: asheville, Nc Posts: 407 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? how do you make a new batch everyday if there life cycle is only useful for a couple days.. Can you freeze em ? or does putting them in a fridge slow down there growth rate enough so that I can go once a week until my pods are well established?

04-20-2009, 10:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
chip46 Fire Coral Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East central Indiana Posts: 61 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: hatching brine shrimp?? I used to raise the baby shrimp to adult size. After they hatch I would give them a pinch of yeast. Yes what you make bread from. It did not cost much and lasted a long time. It turns the water murky, When it is clear you add more yeast again. I hear you can also add selcon before you feed them. This may be the longer the better for the shrimp to be more nutritional value.

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