Plate coral receding

StarGazer1960 · 04-19-2009, 07:16 PM

any way to stop or reverse this?
Water params are good

seafansar · 04-19-2009, 07:24 PM

A little more info and a picture would help. How long have you had it? Where is it in relationship to lighting or other corals? What kind of lighting is it under? What are your water params (what did you test for)? Anything out of the ordinary happen to the tank recently?

If you want to insert a picture try using photobucket.com It's free and easy to use.

Welcome to RS, btw!

StarGazer1960 · 04-19-2009, 09:38 PM

Today

April 7

Today

Water Params

PH 8.2
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5
Calcium 400
Phosphate 0
Temp 78

Supplements

Kent Marine Essential Elements
Reef Trace Elements
Reef Carbonate
Reef Complete Calcium

Food

8-20 Phytoplankton
The rest get brine shrimp and seaweed

Lighting
65/65 Compact Fl. Blue/Daylight

Had him about a month
As you can see the other corals are doing well
I have hammer and frogspawn that are doing well too
Do you think that clown might have done it?
Thx

cbrownfish · 04-19-2009, 09:59 PM

Heliofungia do not have a good survival rate in captivity. Is your clown residing in the coral? The clown could be irrating it, it may need lower lighting, could be suffering from allelopathy, bubble coral stung it, damaged during shipping, or it is simply not happy in captivity.

What does "water params are good" mean? NH3/nitrite/NO3 - 0, Ca 420, dKH, 9, Mg 1300, Temp 78-80, pH 8.0-8.2, etc??

StarGazer1960 · 04-19-2009, 10:13 PM

The clown did move in

StarGazer1960 · 04-20-2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbrownfish

Heliofungia do not have a good survival rate in captivity. Is your clown residing in the coral? The clown could be irrating it, it may need lower lighting, could be suffering from allelopathy, bubble coral stung it, damaged during shipping, or it is simply not happy in captivity.

What does "water params are good" mean? NH3/nitrite/NO3 - 0, Ca 420, dKH, 9, Mg 1300, Temp 78-80, pH 8.0-8.2, etc??

not to sound like a nob but what is allelopathy

seafansar · 04-20-2009, 12:24 AM

My best guess is that the clown is irritating it. Allelopathy is when another coral (leathers are known to do this) releases toxins in the water to kill other corals around them. Also known as chemical warfare. You do have a leather in your tank that might be causing the problem. Do you run carbon? Carbon will filter out the toxins.

StarGazer1960 · 04-20-2009, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seafansar

My best guess is that the clown is irritating it. Allelopathy is when another coral (leathers are known to do this) releases toxins in the water to kill other corals around them. Also known as chemical warfare. You do have a leather in your tank that might be causing the problem. Do you run carbon? Carbon will filter out the toxins.

yes i run carbon in my filter, in fact i changed it a week ago(once a month)

StarGazer1960 · 04-20-2009, 01:41 AM

do you think hes done for?
if so should i remove him?

seafansar · 04-20-2009, 02:15 AM

I have never owned a plate coral before, but I have had other LPS's come back from much worse than that. I would just give it some time, make sure it get good flow and no brown jelly growing on it, and see how it does. If you could remove the clown, that would probably help too, but I know that's probably not an option.

Your tank looks really good, btw. You should show some more pictures of it in the meet and greet forum.

BigAl07 · 04-20-2009, 10:06 AM

If you can "protect" it from the clown you may have a chance at saving it. Clowns are known for "rough Love" and inadvertently kill many LPS in our tanks. I've lost several LPS to a clown loving it to death.

Also it looks like you're supplementing a LOT! Are you testing for everything you're supplementing? If you don't TEST for it don't DOSE for it. Dosing without testing is like adding oil to your car just because "It feels like it needs it!". At some point you'll have oil over-fill issues and so will your tank

StarGazer1960 · 04-21-2009, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seafansar

I have never owned a plate coral before, but I have had other LPS's come back from much worse than that. I would just give it some time, make sure it get good flow and no brown jelly growing on it, and see how it does. If you could remove the clown, that would probably help too, but I know that's probably not an option.

Your tank looks really good, btw. You should show some more pictures of it in the meet and greet forum.

i put a few pics in my gallery

04-19-2009, 07:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
StarGazer1960 Tubeworm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Strathroy, Ontaio, Canada Posts: 38 View Gallery Karma Komment	Plate coral receding any way to stop or reverse this? Water params are good

04-19-2009, 07:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
seafansar Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,188 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding A little more info and a picture would help. How long have you had it? Where is it in relationship to lighting or other corals? What kind of lighting is it under? What are your water params (what did you test for)? Anything out of the ordinary happen to the tank recently? If you want to insert a picture try using photobucket.com It's free and easy to use. Welcome to RS, btw! __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 20 gallon BTA/clown tank 90 gallon bowfront mixed reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

04-19-2009, 09:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
StarGazer1960 Tubeworm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Strathroy, Ontaio, Canada Posts: 38 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding Today April 7 Today Water Params PH 8.2 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 5 Calcium 400 Phosphate 0 Temp 78 Supplements Kent Marine Essential Elements Reef Trace Elements Reef Carbonate Reef Complete Calcium Food 8-20 Phytoplankton The rest get brine shrimp and seaweed Lighting 65/65 Compact Fl. Blue/Daylight Had him about a month As you can see the other corals are doing well I have hammer and frogspawn that are doing well too Do you think that clown might have done it? Thx

04-19-2009, 09:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
cbrownfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,624 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding Heliofungia do not have a good survival rate in captivity. Is your clown residing in the coral? The clown could be irrating it, it may need lower lighting, could be suffering from allelopathy, bubble coral stung it, damaged during shipping, or it is simply not happy in captivity. What does "water params are good" mean? NH3/nitrite/NO3 - 0, Ca 420, dKH, 9, Mg 1300, Temp 78-80, pH 8.0-8.2, etc?? __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

04-19-2009, 10:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
StarGazer1960 Tubeworm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Strathroy, Ontaio, Canada Posts: 38 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding The clown did move in

04-20-2009, 12:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
seafansar Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,188 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding My best guess is that the clown is irritating it. Allelopathy is when another coral (leathers are known to do this) releases toxins in the water to kill other corals around them. Also known as chemical warfare. You do have a leather in your tank that might be causing the problem. Do you run carbon? Carbon will filter out the toxins. __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 20 gallon BTA/clown tank 90 gallon bowfront mixed reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

04-20-2009, 01:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
StarGazer1960 Tubeworm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Strathroy, Ontaio, Canada Posts: 38 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding do you think hes done for? if so should i remove him?

04-20-2009, 02:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
seafansar Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,188 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Plate coral receding I have never owned a plate coral before, but I have had other LPS's come back from much worse than that. I would just give it some time, make sure it get good flow and no brown jelly growing on it, and see how it does. If you could remove the clown, that would probably help too, but I know that's probably not an option. Your tank looks really good, btw. You should show some more pictures of it in the meet and greet forum. __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 20 gallon BTA/clown tank 90 gallon bowfront mixed reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

04-20-2009, 10:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Plate coral receding If you can "protect" it from the clown you may have a chance at saving it. Clowns are known for "rough Love" and inadvertently kill many LPS in our tanks. I've lost several LPS to a clown loving it to death. Also it looks like you're supplementing a LOT! Are you testing for everything you're supplementing? If you don't TEST for it don't DOSE for it. Dosing without testing is like adding oil to your car just because "It feels like it needs it!". At some point you'll have oil over-fill issues and so will your tank __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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