RockWork - Page 10

BigAl07 · 03-12-2009, 05:13 PM

IS this where this guy was "Curing" the cement?

That's precisely how I'll be curing mine in the future.

Basile · 03-12-2009, 05:22 PM

CONCEPTS AND PLANS

Basile · 03-12-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

IS this where this guy was "Curing" the cement?

That's precisely how I'll be curing mine in the future.

I don't know i would worried of polutants...mmh...

Craig Manoukian · 03-12-2009, 05:35 PM

Wow, pretty cool and innovative ideas!

Basile · 03-12-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Manoukian

Wow, pretty cool and innovative ideas!

Thanks, have you seen my questions earlyer about foam and stuff. It would be great if you could answer some. Although i've scavenged all these great ideal, some materials are not clear. Like what kinf of foam to use and so on. Check my list and thanks for taking the time.

Craig Manoukian · 03-12-2009, 05:42 PM

Not any experience with foam or Marcko rock here.

jgking21 · 03-12-2009, 05:46 PM

I've seen people using this and it will be my intention to use it, but no prior experience.

Basile · 03-12-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Manoukian

Not any experience with foam or Marcko rock here.

Oh, well, the question is on page 3, if you know anyone who could answer, that would be great , i'm working from my end to find better answers. we'll figure it out sometime , thanks for your time.

Basile · 03-12-2009, 07:02 PM

Question Period

Can anybody answer these questions for the sake of new builders, like myself.

What kind of

GLUE

FOAM

PVC

CONCRETE OR CEMENT

can we use

PLEASE NAME BRAND AND WHERE WE CAN GET THEM THANKS.[/quote]

Well i'm answering myself lol, self, the best foam, for aquarium work is

Landscape/hardscape foam filler, sealer and adhesive
Damp and dry application
Adheres to stone and rock
Water-resistant
Fish and plant safe
Expands to fill gaps to direct water flow over rocks
Secures stones without mortar
Repairs cracks and holes in trees
Cures in 8 hours

BEEN USED FOR A YEAR NO PROBLEM WITH THE TANK

ANOTHER

ROCK AND WHITE FOAM MIXED

FOR BLACK POND FOAM FISH SAFE

Handi-Foam Black spray foam 12 oz. can
[SA-FSP10053]

Black Waterfall Foam
Item Id: ATBFOAM
Description
Black Waterfall Foam is ideal for use in pond and waterfall construction. It naturally blends with the landscaping of the pond. 12 oz.
1/4" Bead = 1760 ft.
3/8" Bead = 780 ft.
1/2" Bead = 440 ft.
Non-Reflective
Water Resistant
Foam expands to fill gaps and cracks
Adheres landscape rocks together
Nozzle adaptor reaches into tight spaces
More UV resistant than standard foams
Seals and Bonds to all water garden materials
Fish Safe

OR THIS ONE

Handi-Foam Expansion Foam Pond Waterfall Sealer 12 OZ

Handi-Foam triple expanding black waterfall foam, fish-safe, UV protected, can be used to attach rocks to spillways and direct water over falls

Designed to seal, fill and insulate small cracks, gaps and voids.
can be applied with a straw applicator, a professional dispensing unit or a professional hose kit (for use with cylinders).
Cures when moisture/humidity in the air reacts with the foam sealant creating a rigid, closed cell barrier against draft, noise, moisture and air infiltration.
Handi-Foam® Sealant are the perfect choice for your insulating needs.

LINKS

Handi-Foam Expansion Foam Pond Waterfall Sealer 12 OZ

Handi-Foam Spray Foam

GREAT STUFFâ„¢ Pond & Stone

Basile · 03-12-2009, 09:03 PM

Marco rock info

LINKS

Marco Rocks The finest aquarium rock available, base rock, live rock, reef rock, marco rock, reef tank saltwater fish, live corals, Marco rocks, Fiji live rock, Tonga Live rock

Marco Rock Full and Rubble (Official TR Product review) [Archive] - The Talkingreef Community

Basile · 03-13-2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgking21

I've seen people using this and it will be my intention to use it, but no prior experience.

Hey thanks for your input. Forgot to thank you about it. I reseached the threads and most of the guys who did their foam work used the same product and its safe for fish. You can also use these products for your foam

Jeremy0322 · 03-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Its nice to see someone doing my "scaping" homework for me. I am most definitely following every post on this thread!!

Basile · 03-15-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy0322

Its nice to see someone doing my "scaping" homework for me. I am most definitely following every post on this thread!!

Thanks Jeremy, when you do your set up don't forget to take pics for us we need input experiences even bad ones. This will make this thread more complete and relevent, specially if you use and ideals or a technique in this thread.

Basile · 03-15-2009, 11:21 PM

24 Hours after your Foam as cured You apply a resin

Zap Finishing Resin
Uses & Hints Page
Part # PT-40

Uses:Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN is a premium light weight two part epoxy laminating / finishing type resin. Whether fiber-glassing the center section of a wing or the entire airplane, Z-POXY is the easiest to use and best you can buy. Great for sealing model boat hulls, inside and out. Use to seal all engine and fuel tank areas. It is absolutely the best for sheeting foam wing pannels.I t will bond to itself and does not get brittle with age. Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN is easy to mix, just combine equal parts by volume. Its thinner formula is perfect as is but can be thinned if needed. Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN can also be used to seal and prepare all types of wood projects for painting.Helpful Hints: Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN will penetrate into porous wood, several applications may be required to fill and level the surface. Let each application cure and sand between coats. To clean up any uncured or unmixed epoxy, use alcohol, isopropyl or methanol, either will work. Thinning of Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN is possible in smaller ratios, thinning too much will alter the cured properties. It is best to test the thinned epoxy, let it cure and adjust as need. Mix Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN in a clean plastic cup or on a non porous surface like a piece flexible plastic. Only mix enough epoxy as needed, any excess epoxy cannot be saved after it has been mixed. Pot life and cure time will vary when the epoxy is thinned. For a bonding type epoxy, use Z-POXY QUICK SET 5 MIN.FORMULA part numbers PT-37 and PT-38, or
Z-POXY 30 MIN. FORMULA part number PT-39.

LINK:

Ottawa Inverts Â» Building Foam & Rock Walls

YouTube - how to make a DIY aquarium background PLEASE RESPOND

Jeremy0322 · 03-16-2009, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basile

Thanks Jeremy, when you do your set up don't forget to take pics for us we need input experiences even bad ones. This will make this thread more complete and relevent, specially if you use and ideals or a technique in this thread.

I just liked the ideas you were giving me about scaping shapes, I did mine all n natural because I think it looks better that way, all just personal preference i suppose. I will get pics up sometime soon, the tank was clearing up and then i added a half bucket of salt and 2 HK 4's, so its cloudy again to say the least...lol

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03-12-2009, 05:13 PM	#136 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: RockWork IS this where this guy was "Curing" the cement? That's precisely how I'll be curing mine in the future. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

03-12-2009, 05:22 PM	#137 (permalink)
Basile Golden Moray Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gatineau/Ottawa canada Posts: 2,022 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Concepts And Plans CONCEPTS AND PLANS __________________ My Rockwork Macroalgae Club. My slow 65 g build up Combination fish and Anemone 65g- Aquamedic 2X250wMH-T5 -Recirculating Octopus 150DNW- 2X Vortech Mp40W gen2 powerheads-Eheim 1262 910GPH return - Little fishes Carbon&Phosban reactors,GHL controllers and Dosing pump and ME!

03-12-2009, 05:35 PM	#139 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: RockWork Wow, pretty cool and innovative ideas! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

03-12-2009, 05:42 PM	#141 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: RockWork Not any experience with foam or Marcko rock here. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

03-12-2009, 05:46 PM	#142 (permalink)
jgking21 Neon dottyback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indian Trail, NC Posts: 674 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: RockWork I've seen people using this and it will be my intention to use it, but no prior experience. __________________ They call me "JUICE"! Will work for Corals! Juice's 54 Corner Reef Juice's 25 Gallon Reef

03-12-2009, 07:02 PM	#144 (permalink)
Basile Golden Moray Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gatineau/Ottawa canada Posts: 2,022 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Question Period Question Period Can anybody answer these questions for the sake of new builders, like myself. What kind of GLUE FOAM PVC CONCRETE OR CEMENT can we use PLEASE NAME BRAND AND WHERE WE CAN GET THEM THANKS.[/quote] Well i'm answering myself lol, self, the best foam, for aquarium work is Landscape/hardscape foam filler, sealer and adhesive Damp and dry application Adheres to stone and rock Water-resistant Fish and plant safe Expands to fill gaps to direct water flow over rocks Secures stones without mortar Repairs cracks and holes in trees Cures in 8 hours BEEN USED FOR A YEAR NO PROBLEM WITH THE TANK ANOTHER ROCK AND WHITE FOAM MIXED FOR BLACK POND FOAM FISH SAFE Handi-Foam Black spray foam 12 oz. can [SA-FSP10053] Black Waterfall Foam Item Id: ATBFOAM Description Black Waterfall Foam is ideal for use in pond and waterfall construction. It naturally blends with the landscaping of the pond. 12 oz. 1/4" Bead = 1760 ft. 3/8" Bead = 780 ft. 1/2" Bead = 440 ft. Non-Reflective Water Resistant Foam expands to fill gaps and cracks Adheres landscape rocks together Nozzle adaptor reaches into tight spaces More UV resistant than standard foams Seals and Bonds to all water garden materials Fish Safe OR THIS ONE Handi-Foam Expansion Foam Pond Waterfall Sealer 12 OZ Handi-Foam triple expanding black waterfall foam, fish-safe, UV protected, can be used to attach rocks to spillways and direct water over falls Designed to seal, fill and insulate small cracks, gaps and voids. can be applied with a straw applicator, a professional dispensing unit or a professional hose kit (for use with cylinders). Cures when moisture/humidity in the air reacts with the foam sealant creating a rigid, closed cell barrier against draft, noise, moisture and air infiltration. Handi-Foam® Sealant are the perfect choice for your insulating needs. LINKS Handi-Foam Expansion Foam Pond Waterfall Sealer 12 OZ Handi-Foam Spray Foam GREAT STUFFâ„¢ Pond & Stone __________________ My Rockwork Macroalgae Club. My slow 65 g build up Combination fish and Anemone 65g- Aquamedic 2X250wMH-T5 -Recirculating Octopus 150DNW- 2X Vortech Mp40W gen2 powerheads-Eheim 1262 910GPH return - Little fishes Carbon&Phosban reactors,GHL controllers and Dosing pump and ME! Last edited by Basile : 03-12-2009 at 09:11 PM.

03-12-2009, 09:03 PM	#145 (permalink)
Basile Golden Moray Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gatineau/Ottawa canada Posts: 2,022 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Marco rock info Marco rock info LINKS Marco Rocks The finest aquarium rock available, base rock, live rock, reef rock, marco rock, reef tank saltwater fish, live corals, Marco rocks, Fiji live rock, Tonga Live rock Marco Rock Full and Rubble (Official TR Product review) [Archive] - The Talkingreef Community __________________ My Rockwork Macroalgae Club. My slow 65 g build up Combination fish and Anemone 65g- Aquamedic 2X250wMH-T5 -Recirculating Octopus 150DNW- 2X Vortech Mp40W gen2 powerheads-Eheim 1262 910GPH return - Little fishes Carbon&Phosban reactors,GHL controllers and Dosing pump and ME!

03-13-2009, 01:29 PM	#147 (permalink)
Jeremy0322 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 4,753 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: RockWork Its nice to see someone doing my "scaping" homework for me. I am most definitely following every post on this thread!! __________________ UNCW 2011 -Marine Biology Major -Oceanography Minor The old 90 Gallon Build r.i.p Only after the last tree's cut And the last river poisoned Only after the last fish is caught Will you find that money cannot be eaten....

03-15-2009, 11:21 PM	#149 (permalink)
Basile Golden Moray Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gatineau/Ottawa canada Posts: 2,022 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	24 Hours After your Foam 24 Hours after your Foam as cured You apply a resin Zap Finishing Resin Uses & Hints Page Part # PT-40 Uses:Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN is a premium light weight two part epoxy laminating / finishing type resin. Whether fiber-glassing the center section of a wing or the entire airplane, Z-POXY is the easiest to use and best you can buy. Great for sealing model boat hulls, inside and out. Use to seal all engine and fuel tank areas. It is absolutely the best for sheeting foam wing pannels.I t will bond to itself and does not get brittle with age. Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN is easy to mix, just combine equal parts by volume. Its thinner formula is perfect as is but can be thinned if needed. Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN can also be used to seal and prepare all types of wood projects for painting.Helpful Hints: Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN will penetrate into porous wood, several applications may be required to fill and level the surface. Let each application cure and sand between coats. To clean up any uncured or unmixed epoxy, use alcohol, isopropyl or methanol, either will work. Thinning of Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN is possible in smaller ratios, thinning too much will alter the cured properties. It is best to test the thinned epoxy, let it cure and adjust as need. Mix Z-POXY FINISHING RESIN in a clean plastic cup or on a non porous surface like a piece flexible plastic. Only mix enough epoxy as needed, any excess epoxy cannot be saved after it has been mixed. Pot life and cure time will vary when the epoxy is thinned. For a bonding type epoxy, use Z-POXY QUICK SET 5 MIN.FORMULA part numbers PT-37 and PT-38, or Z-POXY 30 MIN. FORMULA part number PT-39. LINK: Ottawa Inverts Â» Building Foam & Rock Walls YouTube - how to make a DIY aquarium background PLEASE RESPOND __________________ My Rockwork Macroalgae Club. My slow 65 g build up Combination fish and Anemone 65g- Aquamedic 2X250wMH-T5 -Recirculating Octopus 150DNW- 2X Vortech Mp40W gen2 powerheads-Eheim 1262 910GPH return - Little fishes Carbon&Phosban reactors,GHL controllers and Dosing pump and ME! Last edited by Basile : 03-16-2009 at 10:05 PM.

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