What is going on with anem.

Debby · 02-21-2009, 10:05 AM

Help two days ago my anem shrunk up and started movin after staying in one spot for over a year. as of last nite can not find her ay all.Here is a pic of her the nite befor moving.I am not real sure but looks like she has two mouths and is trying to split.Any advise.

degibson84 · 02-21-2009, 10:15 AM

my father in law had a nem move and ended up settling under a rock and just the tips stick out form underneath

lcstorc · 02-21-2009, 11:47 AM

Hmmm. Maybe it just want's some privacy.

rmlevasseur · 02-21-2009, 11:50 AM

Can't be sure, but i assume that picture shows the foot, which seems to be decomposing in the upper center. Be prepared to pull it out fast. In my experience, not many anemones will completely detach and float around to get from point A to B, although it has been reported. Most will slowly crawl. That foot looks like it has a tear and can't attach.

My RBTA came from the store with a torn foot. I placed it in the crook of some rock and adjusted the flow so to not blow it out. It took about 3 weeks to completely heal, at which point it reattached and moved on its own again. I'm thinking if your is a BTA is may also be fairly bleached, but can't see much of the tentacles. Most BTAs don't have such white feet.

Debby · 02-21-2009, 11:55 AM

the foot is attached to the rock.

rmlevasseur · 02-21-2009, 12:00 PM

In that picture the foot is attached? Looks to me that he is holding the rock by the tentacles and not the foot.

rmlevasseur · 02-21-2009, 12:08 PM

This the spot I'd be worried about

lcstorc · 02-21-2009, 12:13 PM

She's trying to find it now to do the smell test and see if it is at least alive.

rmlevasseur · 02-21-2009, 12:27 PM

Heh, only one of two ways that ends: pleasant surprise or utter revulsion

Debby · 02-21-2009, 12:32 PM

well i have found her under a ledge netted her out does not have a smell to it about the size of a fifty cent piece.after looking closer to the pic i think rmlevasseur is right. i placed it in a bag and have it floating.I do not have a quaranteen tank.any advise on what to do now? I worried about her dyeing and nooking tank.but then again dont want to hurt her if she just having a couple of bad days.

lcstorc · 02-21-2009, 12:38 PM

Well, you would have known if she was dead.
I'm not sure what to do next. Do you have a strawberry basket or some other container that allows flow but will keep her more or less against a rock?
Maybe she would attach herself.

Debby · 02-21-2009, 12:42 PM

here are two pic first one is foot i think and second is tenicles

rmlevasseur · 02-21-2009, 01:33 PM

I'm sorry debby but that does not look good. I'm sorry to sound pessimistic, but unfortunately I have seen a few like that and have always had to flush them.

If you really wanted to give something a try, you could soak it in a bucket with antibiotics, but that really is a last ditch effort. Another thing you could try if you are really brave is fragging the thing and trying your best to get a portion of the mouth and none of the part that is deteriorating. But both of these are really shots in the dark.

Debby · 02-21-2009, 02:16 PM

robert thank you for advise... I dont have a clue about fragging.how long can i keep it in the bag.Hard to beleive this guy is my aviator.so mayby im at the end with her and need to get rid of her?

rmlevasseur · 02-21-2009, 05:09 PM

I have never seen them come back from that condition. Its not going to get better in the bag, just stops it from polluting your tank. I've never fragged a nem myself, although it is fairly common with BTA's, but even then I've never heard of it being done with one already in poor health. Since it can be done and it looks like yours won't make it anyway I just thought maybe it would be worth a try. Basically you just take sharp scissors and snip it so a portion of the mouth is in the snip. And I'd think you'd want to avoid any parts with necrosis. But in all honesty, I highly doubt it would work. If you can QT it that's probably your best bet. Frequent water changes and maybe put an antibiotic in the water.

02-21-2009, 10:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Debby Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 387 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	What is going on with anem. Help two days ago my anem shrunk up and started movin after staying in one spot for over a year. as of last nite can not find her ay all.Here is a pic of her the nite befor moving.I am not real sure but looks like she has two mouths and is trying to split.Any advise. __________________ 100 gallon tank orbit currant lighting with moon lights started 10-07 70 lbs live rock live sand/ tomatoe clown/blue damsil/1 cleaner shrimp/sand sifter cucumber/betta/coral beauty/yellow tang/scissor tail/black cap/checkered blenny corals= toadstool/elegance coral/polyps/rose anemone/ frog spawn/large toadstool/torch coral/xenias'torch coral/cabbiage/2 clamskenya tree/long tenicle plate/6 lg turbo snails /10 blue leg hermit crabs/plate coral.pink brain/strawberries/colt coral Debby.

02-21-2009, 10:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
degibson84 Achilles Tang Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austintown, Ohio Posts: 809 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: What is going on with anem. my father in law had a nem move and ended up settling under a rock and just the tips stick out form underneath

02-21-2009, 11:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. Hmmm. Maybe it just want's some privacy. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

02-21-2009, 11:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. Can't be sure, but i assume that picture shows the foot, which seems to be decomposing in the upper center. Be prepared to pull it out fast. In my experience, not many anemones will completely detach and float around to get from point A to B, although it has been reported. Most will slowly crawl. That foot looks like it has a tear and can't attach. My RBTA came from the store with a torn foot. I placed it in the crook of some rock and adjusted the flow so to not blow it out. It took about 3 weeks to completely heal, at which point it reattached and moved on its own again. I'm thinking if your is a BTA is may also be fairly bleached, but can't see much of the tentacles. Most BTAs don't have such white feet. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

02-21-2009, 11:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Debby Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 387 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. the foot is attached to the rock. __________________ 100 gallon tank orbit currant lighting with moon lights started 10-07 70 lbs live rock live sand/ tomatoe clown/blue damsil/1 cleaner shrimp/sand sifter cucumber/betta/coral beauty/yellow tang/scissor tail/black cap/checkered blenny corals= toadstool/elegance coral/polyps/rose anemone/ frog spawn/large toadstool/torch coral/xenias'torch coral/cabbiage/2 clamskenya tree/long tenicle plate/6 lg turbo snails /10 blue leg hermit crabs/plate coral.pink brain/strawberries/colt coral Debby.

02-21-2009, 12:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. In that picture the foot is attached? Looks to me that he is holding the rock by the tentacles and not the foot. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

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rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. This the spot I'd be worried about __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

02-21-2009, 12:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. She's trying to find it now to do the smell test and see if it is at least alive. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

02-21-2009, 12:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. Heh, only one of two ways that ends: pleasant surprise or utter revulsion __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

02-21-2009, 12:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Debby Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 387 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. well i have found her under a ledge netted her out does not have a smell to it about the size of a fifty cent piece.after looking closer to the pic i think rmlevasseur is right. i placed it in a bag and have it floating.I do not have a quaranteen tank.any advise on what to do now? I worried about her dyeing and nooking tank.but then again dont want to hurt her if she just having a couple of bad days. __________________ 100 gallon tank orbit currant lighting with moon lights started 10-07 70 lbs live rock live sand/ tomatoe clown/blue damsil/1 cleaner shrimp/sand sifter cucumber/betta/coral beauty/yellow tang/scissor tail/black cap/checkered blenny corals= toadstool/elegance coral/polyps/rose anemone/ frog spawn/large toadstool/torch coral/xenias'torch coral/cabbiage/2 clamskenya tree/long tenicle plate/6 lg turbo snails /10 blue leg hermit crabs/plate coral.pink brain/strawberries/colt coral Debby.

02-21-2009, 12:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. Well, you would have known if she was dead. I'm not sure what to do next. Do you have a strawberry basket or some other container that allows flow but will keep her more or less against a rock? Maybe she would attach herself. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

02-21-2009, 12:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
Debby Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 387 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. here are two pic first one is foot i think and second is tenicles __________________ 100 gallon tank orbit currant lighting with moon lights started 10-07 70 lbs live rock live sand/ tomatoe clown/blue damsil/1 cleaner shrimp/sand sifter cucumber/betta/coral beauty/yellow tang/scissor tail/black cap/checkered blenny corals= toadstool/elegance coral/polyps/rose anemone/ frog spawn/large toadstool/torch coral/xenias'torch coral/cabbiage/2 clamskenya tree/long tenicle plate/6 lg turbo snails /10 blue leg hermit crabs/plate coral.pink brain/strawberries/colt coral Debby.

02-21-2009, 01:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. I'm sorry debby but that does not look good. I'm sorry to sound pessimistic, but unfortunately I have seen a few like that and have always had to flush them. If you really wanted to give something a try, you could soak it in a bucket with antibiotics, but that really is a last ditch effort. Another thing you could try if you are really brave is fragging the thing and trying your best to get a portion of the mouth and none of the part that is deteriorating. But both of these are really shots in the dark. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

02-21-2009, 02:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Debby Cabbage Leather Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 387 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. robert thank you for advise... I dont have a clue about fragging.how long can i keep it in the bag.Hard to beleive this guy is my aviator.so mayby im at the end with her and need to get rid of her? __________________ 100 gallon tank orbit currant lighting with moon lights started 10-07 70 lbs live rock live sand/ tomatoe clown/blue damsil/1 cleaner shrimp/sand sifter cucumber/betta/coral beauty/yellow tang/scissor tail/black cap/checkered blenny corals= toadstool/elegance coral/polyps/rose anemone/ frog spawn/large toadstool/torch coral/xenias'torch coral/cabbiage/2 clamskenya tree/long tenicle plate/6 lg turbo snails /10 blue leg hermit crabs/plate coral.pink brain/strawberries/colt coral Debby.

02-21-2009, 05:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: What is going on with anem. I have never seen them come back from that condition. Its not going to get better in the bag, just stops it from polluting your tank. I've never fragged a nem myself, although it is fairly common with BTA's, but even then I've never heard of it being done with one already in poor health. Since it can be done and it looks like yours won't make it anyway I just thought maybe it would be worth a try. Basically you just take sharp scissors and snip it so a portion of the mouth is in the snip. And I'd think you'd want to avoid any parts with necrosis. But in all honesty, I highly doubt it would work. If you can QT it that's probably your best bet. Frequent water changes and maybe put an antibiotic in the water. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

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