Will the addition of Chaeto slowly kill off my CUC???

degibson84 · 02-20-2009, 09:30 PM

just like the title says.

im wondering if my CUC will slowly die off

Dentoid · 02-20-2009, 09:51 PM

Absolutely not! If anything, it will increase your CUC diversity. Why do you ask?

degibson84 · 02-20-2009, 09:52 PM

since it will be taking away excess nutrients i thought maybe it would take away a food supply in the algaes that they eat

Dentoid · 02-20-2009, 10:02 PM

Although that seems reasonable, the fact of the matter is that it will help to control those compounds we don't want in our system like nitrate and phosphate. Which, by the way, are not nutrients that our corals or fish use to in any appreciable amount. If your algae population does become depleted you can supplement by adding Nori to feed herbivores.

degibson84 · 02-20-2009, 10:04 PM

well i know right now my CUC is a little on the small side and i was going to add some more of a different variety of snails and hermits. i just wanted to make sure that adding chaeto wouldn't take away a food source for these guys if i added them. i should have the chaeto by wednesday

framerguy · 02-20-2009, 10:47 PM

Scott is spot on as usual. You will be fine adding the chaeto. Monitor your CUC and see how things in the tank look. If there is still stuff to clean up, then boost the CUC. If things are super clean then consider either reducing their number or supplementing feeding.

degibson84 · 02-20-2009, 10:56 PM

how would i supplement feed carbs and snails

framerguy · 02-20-2009, 11:06 PM

By supplying algae such as nori strips for the herbivores, and meat supplements such as shrimp bits for carnivores.

degibson84 · 02-20-2009, 11:09 PM

so slightly over feeding my fish would supply the hermits

framerguy · 02-20-2009, 11:14 PM

I can't recommend that. Let your tank be your guide. Is there still algae present? Does there appear to be enough for the CUC to eat? If not, feed them. For the record, I have never had to feed my CUC. The Chaeto is not going to be a cure all for excess nutrients. It will help tremendously, but you won't starve your CUC with it.

burning2nd · 02-20-2009, 11:26 PM

yes kindda sorrta..

In short
If the cheto takes up the nutrents that fuel the CUC's food soruce.. then in time the Cuc could starve.

i think the cheto is really good tho... If you feel your cuc is not doing so well.. your tank might be clean and you should back off on the cuc.

I hate seeing over stocked CUC's and starved...

but for cheto i think your safe with it...

degibson84 · 02-21-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by framerguy

I can't recommend that. Let your tank be your guide. Is there still algae present? Does there appear to be enough for the CUC to eat? If not, feed them. For the record, I have never had to feed my CUC. The Chaeto is not going to be a cure all for excess nutrients. It will help tremendously, but you won't starve your CUC with it.

i wont have the chaeto til next week so i doubt i will notice anything right away but right now there is plenty of algae for the CUC. i guess only time will tell

Dentoid · 02-21-2009, 12:33 AM

It's best to not fret over whether your CUC will have enough to eat. As human beings we can not possibly fathom what it is like to be at their level of life. They have evolved to find food in places we may never think to look or even know exist in our own tanks.

It's a closed system and it will obtain a balance between the living and the resources available. There is no formula for the ideal biological system as every tank is different in many respects. If you strive to attain and consciously feed every individual CUC member then your tank will take on a whole other level than someone who feeds judiciously. You may not like that.

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framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Will the addition of Chaeto slowly kill off my CUC??? I can't recommend that. Let your tank be your guide. Is there still algae present? Does there appear to be enough for the CUC to eat? If not, feed them. For the record, I have never had to feed my CUC. The Chaeto is not going to be a cure all for excess nutrients. It will help tremendously, but you won't starve your CUC with it. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

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burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Will the addition of Chaeto slowly kill off my CUC??? yes kindda sorrta.. In short If the cheto takes up the nutrents that fuel the CUC's food soruce.. then in time the Cuc could starve. i think the cheto is really good tho... If you feel your cuc is not doing so well.. your tank might be clean and you should back off on the cuc. I hate seeing over stocked CUC's and starved... but for cheto i think your safe with it... __________________ ________________________________________________ 30g, 10g DIY sump w/ mag7 Csr90 over flow. 36" sunpod 2x150 2 Tunze 6020 40 Lb's Live Rock 20 lb's of Ls Aqua C REmora mIxed reef, softies, pora's, clams, 1 Amphiprion ocellaris (hosting GTA) jake the jedi sexy shrimp, and brown bob

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