is AmQuel plus reef safe???

degibson84 · 01-21-2009, 01:48 PM

i was told by a friend to use AmQuel plus to lower my nitrate levels.

he was using this in his tank but he has a fish only SW and i noticed it smelled horribly

is this product reef safe???

Jeremy0322 · 01-21-2009, 01:50 PM

Its a popular opinion on here that you shouldnt use stuff like this. If the nitrates are up there is a cause, and stuff like this is a "band-aid" for the real problem. Can you post some more about your tank like size, age, bio load, filtration, stuff of that nature. This will give us a better idea what the ACTUAL problem is so you can FIX it instead of just cover it up.

BLAKEJOHN · 01-21-2009, 01:51 PM

Water changes will lower your nitrate levels. You do not need any chemicals. I may be wrong but to lower the nitrates by way of chemical I would think it is actually reducing the bacteria that is making the nitrates. JMO.

lcstorc · 01-21-2009, 02:14 PM

I've got to jump in on this one.
The product is Amquel plus. It is not going to reduce nitrate.
It is an acceptable product to make amonia less toxic. Usually used in a qt or hospital situation.
It does not remove the Amonia but does reduce the toxicity.
Yes it does smell horrid

BigAl07 · 01-21-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by degibson84

i was told by a friend to use AmQuel plus to lower my nitrate levels.

he was using this in his tank but he has a fish only SW and i noticed it smelled horribly

is this product reef safe???

your friend is looking at things wrong. You lower your nitrates through water changes. If you're having increased Ammonia (which is what Amquel is used for) you have something ELSE going on in the tank and you need to address that and not cover it up. Good for you for asking.

BLAKEJOHN · 01-21-2009, 02:24 PM

I knew amquel was for ammonia but the "plus" part threw me off as I have never used it nor purchased it.

degibson84 · 01-21-2009, 02:31 PM

i was going about removing nitrate with frequent WCs since i lost control of my tank.

i got the ammonia back to normal but the nitrates are still up but not dangerously high

rmlevasseur · 01-21-2009, 06:05 PM

IMO amquel should be in every reef house. No it should not be used to control ammonia, but its good to have on hand in case of an emergency. I have always added a few drops to new arrivals when acclimating as well. Its about the best fish bandaid you can get, but should not be used as a substitute for a good bacterial bed.

BigAl07 · 01-21-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rmlevasseur

IMO amquel should be in every reef house. No it should not be used to control ammonia, but its good to have on hand in case of an emergency. I have always added a few drops to new arrivals when acclimating as well. Its about the best fish bandaid you can get, but should not be used as a substitute for a good bacterial bed.

I think that's good advice and something I appreciate hearing from and experienced reefer.

What's the shelf life of it?

degibson84 · 01-21-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rmlevasseur

IMO amquel should be in every reef house. No it should not be used to control ammonia, but its good to have on hand in case of an emergency. I have always added a few drops to new arrivals when acclimating as well. Its about the best fish bandaid you can get, but should not be used as a substitute for a good bacterial bed.

how do you use it during acclimation??

rmlevasseur · 01-21-2009, 10:13 PM

There is a lot of ammonia in the bag when you receive a fish. I just put in about 2 ml to the bag.

rmlevasseur · 01-22-2009, 12:15 AM

BTW, amquel plus does neutralize or remove nitrite and nitrate as well, but again it shouldn't be used in place of a good bacterial bed. It also greatly reduces oxygen in the water, so it should be used minimally if used in acclimation. Like 1 or 2 ml.

01-21-2009, 01:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: is AmQuel plus reef safe??? I've got to jump in on this one. The product is Amquel plus. It is not going to reduce nitrate. It is an acceptable product to make amonia less toxic. Usually used in a qt or hospital situation. It does not remove the Amonia but does reduce the toxicity. Yes it does smell horrid __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

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BLAKEJOHN Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KINGSTON, I.L. Posts: 1,071 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: is AmQuel plus reef safe??? I knew amquel was for ammonia but the "plus" part threw me off as I have never used it nor purchased it. __________________ 110 gallon acrylic 1 Yellow Tang, 1 Blue Tang, 2 Eng Gobies, 1 Six Line Wrasse, 1 Tomato Clown, 1 Lion fish RBTA, Longspine Urchin, Approx. 200 snails Red Monti, Purple Rim Monti, Leathers, Elegence, Yellow Polyps, various Zoa's, FrogSpawn, Ricordias, Greenbirdsnest, Pink Milli, Blue Milli, Bonzai, unknown Acropora's, Purple Digi, GSP, Bubble Coral, Staghorn, Slimer

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degibson84 Achilles Tang Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austintown, Ohio Posts: 809 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: is AmQuel plus reef safe??? i was going about removing nitrate with frequent WCs since i lost control of my tank. i got the ammonia back to normal but the nitrates are still up but not dangerously high

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rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: is AmQuel plus reef safe??? IMO amquel should be in every reef house. No it should not be used to control ammonia, but its good to have on hand in case of an emergency. I have always added a few drops to new arrivals when acclimating as well. Its about the best fish bandaid you can get, but should not be used as a substitute for a good bacterial bed. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

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rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: is AmQuel plus reef safe??? There is a lot of ammonia in the bag when you receive a fish. I just put in about 2 ml to the bag. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

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rmlevasseur Acropora Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,849 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: is AmQuel plus reef safe??? BTW, amquel plus does neutralize or remove nitrite and nitrate as well, but again it shouldn't be used in place of a good bacterial bed. It also greatly reduces oxygen in the water, so it should be used minimally if used in acclimation. Like 1 or 2 ml. __________________ Robert http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ufas-tank.html

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