okay al and lynn

faust · 12-25-2008, 04:49 PM

i was walking through wally world and saw a tea strainer, so i bought it. i strained my frozen food through it and was looking at the waste water. i decided to test it for po4. i about crapped my pants. its off the chart!!!!!
too think i have been pumping that crap through my system. not to mention the money i spent for a reator and gfo.
i'm really tired of typing these i should have listened threads. lol

lcstorc · 12-25-2008, 04:55 PM

That is what RS is all about.
Friends helping friends.
Hopefully others will learn from your experience.

new reefer 03 · 12-25-2008, 05:39 PM

do the po4 get into your tank when you thaw the food under your lights?
thats what i usually do.

panmanmatt · 12-25-2008, 05:43 PM

The PO4 is in the4 foods. By soaking the food in water in leeches the PO4 out. When you dump that water into your tank you are also adding the PO4. It is best to thaw the food, dump into a fish net or similar device and then rinse the food with fresh/ro water. You can then add it to back into the thaw container with some fresh water and then feed from there.

BigAl07 · 12-25-2008, 05:45 PM

faust thanks for posting this information.

That's pure "Rocket Fuel" for algae that would otherwise be going right into your tank.

Cole that's exactly what's happening. If you don't thaw/rinse to get rid of that it goes into your tank and feeds algae blooms. This is a VERY common thing and one that usually leads to nasty Hair Algae outbreaks.

again thanks for posting this faust.

BigAl07 · 12-25-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by panmanmatt

The PO4 is in the4 foods. By soaking the food in water in leeches the PO4 out. When you dump that water into your tank you are also adding the PO4. It is best to thaw the food, dump into a fish net or similar device and then rinse the food with fresh/ro water. You can then add it to back into the thaw container with some fresh water and then feed from there.

That's exactly right matt. I do this once a week or so and re-freeze the "cleaned" food in manageable cubes. When it's time to feed I simply drop the frozen cube into the tank and go about my business. It melts over about 3 minutes and feeds the whole tank.

faust · 12-25-2008, 05:47 PM

cole, tea strainer is 2.50 at wall mart. i just cannot believe that i have been dosing my own tank with po4. i'm soooo pissed at my self i need a time out!!!!

new reefer 03 · 12-25-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faust

cole, tea strainer is 2.50 at wall mart. i just cannot believe that i have been dosing my own tank with po4. i'm soooo pissed at my self i need a time out!!!!

i tried rinsing it for about 1 week, i used a coffe filter. it was a pain in the a**, but if i need to start doing it, i will start doing it!

new reefer 03 · 12-25-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

That's exactly right matt. I do this once a week or so and re-freeze the "cleaned" food in manageable cubes. When it's time to feed I simply drop the frozen cube into the tank and go about my business. It melts over about 3 minutes and feeds the whole tank.

so you thaw then re-freeze frozen food? is that bad to like nutrition wise? if not il do it the way your doing it!

lcstorc · 12-25-2008, 05:59 PM

no need for a coffee filter. Just use a small strainer or even a small fish net. I have several small strainers that I use so they can rotate through the dishwasher. I simply thaw the food in the strainer and then run it under the ro water for a minute or so before feeding the tanks. I got them from the kitchen aisle at Wally World for around $2.00.

sambrinar · 12-25-2008, 06:09 PM

LOL. I have posted this information numerous times. But always good yo reinforce!

new reefer 03 · 12-25-2008, 06:11 PM

are the strainers complex enough to hold phyto, and cyclopeeze? i feed those almost daily.

new reefer 03 · 12-25-2008, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

I do this once a week or so and re-freeze the "cleaned" food in manageable cubes. When it's time to feed I simply drop the frozen cube into the tank and go about my business. It melts over about 3 minutes and feeds the whole tank.

doesnt this lose some of the nutritional value? if not i would much rather do this, than do it everynight!

BigAl07 · 12-25-2008, 06:13 PM

I don't have a clue about "nutritional" impact of refreezing. I haven't heard any of the fish complain about taste and I've been doing this for 23 months now. All I can do is tell you how it works for my particular systems.

BigAl07 · 12-25-2008, 06:15 PM

My strainer isn't fine enough for the smallest articles. Those items don't get rinsed but get added to the rinsed mix later.

12-25-2008, 04:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
faust over caffinated reefer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: chandler, ok Posts: 751 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	okay al and lynn i was walking through wally world and saw a tea strainer, so i bought it. i strained my frozen food through it and was looking at the waste water. i decided to test it for po4. i about crapped my pants. its off the chart!!!!! too think i have been pumping that crap through my system. not to mention the money i spent for a reator and gfo. i'm really tired of typing these i should have listened threads. lol __________________ [color="Magenta"]80 bow front, 2x 250 m/h 4 54watt t5 actinics, 1 65 watt pc 50/50 reef 175 bow front, 3x 150 m/h 4 96 watt pc 50/50 fowlr duellin 125's

12-25-2008, 04:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn That is what RS is all about. Friends helping friends. Hopefully others will learn from your experience. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

12-25-2008, 05:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: okay al and lynn The PO4 is in the4 foods. By soaking the food in water in leeches the PO4 out. When you dump that water into your tank you are also adding the PO4. It is best to thaw the food, dump into a fish net or similar device and then rinse the food with fresh/ro water. You can then add it to back into the thaw container with some fresh water and then feed from there. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

12-25-2008, 05:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn faust thanks for posting this information. That's pure "Rocket Fuel" for algae that would otherwise be going right into your tank. Cole that's exactly what's happening. If you don't thaw/rinse to get rid of that it goes into your tank and feeds algae blooms. This is a VERY common thing and one that usually leads to nasty Hair Algae outbreaks. again thanks for posting this faust. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

12-25-2008, 05:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
faust over caffinated reefer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: chandler, ok Posts: 751 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn cole, tea strainer is 2.50 at wall mart. i just cannot believe that i have been dosing my own tank with po4. i'm soooo pissed at my self i need a time out!!!! __________________ [color="Magenta"]80 bow front, 2x 250 m/h 4 54watt t5 actinics, 1 65 watt pc 50/50 reef 175 bow front, 3x 150 m/h 4 96 watt pc 50/50 fowlr duellin 125's

12-25-2008, 05:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn no need for a coffee filter. Just use a small strainer or even a small fish net. I have several small strainers that I use so they can rotate through the dishwasher. I simply thaw the food in the strainer and then run it under the ro water for a minute or so before feeding the tanks. I got them from the kitchen aisle at Wally World for around $2.00. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

12-25-2008, 06:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,410 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn LOL. I have posted this information numerous times. But always good yo reinforce!

12-25-2008, 06:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn I don't have a clue about "nutritional" impact of refreezing. I haven't heard any of the fish complain about taste and I've been doing this for 23 months now. All I can do is tell you how it works for my particular systems. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

12-25-2008, 06:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: okay al and lynn My strainer isn't fine enough for the smallest articles. Those items don't get rinsed but get added to the rinsed mix later. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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