Tomoato Clowns

Gumby · 05-11-2004, 11:36 AM

Are they aggressive?

My wife wants to get rid of the purple pseudochromis and orange honey chromis and is thinking of adding another fish in place of them.

She still has the java scott damsel and it is real meek, so we are looking for an inexpensive (in saltwater terms) fish that will can live with the js damsel without driving him into living in corner of the tank like he is now.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Gumby

tommyp · 05-11-2004, 06:00 PM

I have two that chase each other around but don't bother any one else. I have had them for a year. My lawnmower blenny is the kig of the tank and goes after the clowns from time to time. They are great fish I really like ours.

Tosh_Auer · 05-12-2004, 06:19 AM

Generally when you take out all the fish in the tank and leave only one or even fewer then were there in the past even timid fish will start to find show some territorial behaviour towards new tank members as long as the new member isn't overly aggresive or large. so i think taking the other two out and leaving the damsel in will allow it to get a foot hold in the tank and it may be able to hold its own with "most" new tankmates you put in. then again every fish is different and it could be a complete chicken.

I personally would take the others out and leave it with just him for a week or so before looking at adding the Tomato Clown or Clowns.

Gumby · 05-13-2004, 07:38 AM

Are there any other fish with some color that woudl be neat to ad to a 30g?

The wife was thinking about some schooling fish, but she would only want 3 at the most so that she could add 1 more species (totaling 3 different kinds of fish).

tommyp · 05-13-2004, 09:19 AM

Thry don't school but are real colorful I have a green and a yellow. They are bothersome to sps but if it is a softy lps tank than you are fine.

wooddood · 05-13-2004, 09:24 AM

tom is'nt that a watchman gobie?

tommyp · 05-13-2004, 09:31 AM

nope yellow clown watchman are skinny and long

This is a watchman http://www.reeftalk.com/reviews/data...lowatchman.jpg

tommyp · 05-13-2004, 09:36 AM

This is a yellow clown

http://www.reeftalk.com/reviews/data...n_okinawae.jpg

tommyp · 05-13-2004, 09:38 AM

Green clown Goby

wooddood · 05-13-2004, 02:38 PM

ok i stand corrected tommyp, now do i have to go stand in the corner lol

tommyp · 05-13-2004, 06:00 PM

LOL wood,

wasn't trying to beat ya over the head just wanted to put some pics out there for people who haven't seem them. One of the most knowlegable members of my reef club kept calling my yellow goby a citron and I tried to correct him but ahh to no avail.

I love the gobies and have thought about an all goby tank. they have a ton of personality for their size. especially the yellow clown.

and no you don't have to go to the corner. maybe just a few push ups. sorry just got off the field

Tom

gaubow · 05-13-2004, 06:08 PM

I won't ever have another tomato in my tank. He was a bully and I couldn't get rid of him. I guess he never made me mad enough to actually buy a trap and do the deed. Anyway, so far the best fish that I have had was an Allan Damsel. Very passive damsel but a very reflective, deep blue.

If you are sold on a clown... get a regular perc.

Another great, active group is the dwarf angels. I personally like the bright colors of the lemon peel. I've had two. I just don't know what the pro's will recommend as to how big of a tank that you should have.

Gumby · 05-14-2004, 09:12 AM

gaubow,
do you have a pic of an allen damsel?

our java scott is deep reflective blue with a yellow swish on his underbody.

Gumby · 05-14-2004, 09:15 AM

Tommy p
I have been talking with the wife about the clown gobies for quite a while....hopefully...sooon, she will make decision.

I also have been trying to maybe talk her into a pistol shirmp and goby pair.

Maybe a yellow watchman and a pistol shrimp.

She doesn't know what she wants......

Gumby · 05-14-2004, 10:55 AM

what about anthias in a 30g?

The wife has asked what about butterflies?

05-11-2004, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Gumby Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Miamisburg OH Posts: 405 View Gallery Karma Komment	Tomoato Clowns Are they aggressive? My wife wants to get rid of the purple pseudochromis and orange honey chromis and is thinking of adding another fish in place of them. She still has the java scott damsel and it is real meek, so we are looking for an inexpensive (in saltwater terms) fish that will can live with the js damsel without driving him into living in corner of the tank like he is now. Any thoughts? Thanks, Gumby __________________ Seeking Reefer Enlightenment i am the lorax, i speak for the trees 75g: 140+ lbs LR, 90+ lbs LS, 20+/- g sump (LR & Macro) coral beauty, bicolor blenny ,java scott damsel,2 clowns, 6 line wrasse and assorted hermits and snails 4 diff kinds of shrooms, 2 diff zooas, 2 diff star polyps and a frogspawn that is ready to split and a "free" Kenya tree. 2 - #4 Hydor Koralia's TERM II installed and pumping gunk Lighting - Current Extreme 260 watts - 2 T5 12k white (460nm) and 2 actinic with moon light on a timer for 8 to 9 hrs total.

05-11-2004, 06:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
tommyp Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VT Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	I have two that chase each other around but don't bother any one else. I have had them for a year. My lawnmower blenny is the kig of the tank and goes after the clowns from time to time. They are great fish I really like ours. __________________ "I think that you can start the bombs of oceanrunner. They are good bombs for a rollback." 190g (60x30x25) upgrade in progress, 90g basement sump Check it out here!

05-12-2004, 06:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tosh_Auer Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 469 View Gallery Karma Komment	Generally when you take out all the fish in the tank and leave only one or even fewer then were there in the past even timid fish will start to find show some territorial behaviour towards new tank members as long as the new member isn't overly aggresive or large. so i think taking the other two out and leaving the damsel in will allow it to get a foot hold in the tank and it may be able to hold its own with "most" new tankmates you put in. then again every fish is different and it could be a complete chicken. I personally would take the others out and leave it with just him for a week or so before looking at adding the Tomato Clown or Clowns. __________________ You Try Explaining to your girlfriend why you cant take her out cause you just spent $300 on lights for a fish tank. lol

05-13-2004, 07:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gumby Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Miamisburg OH Posts: 405 View Gallery Karma Komment	Are there any other fish with some color that woudl be neat to ad to a 30g? The wife was thinking about some schooling fish, but she would only want 3 at the most so that she could add 1 more species (totaling 3 different kinds of fish). __________________ Seeking Reefer Enlightenment i am the lorax, i speak for the trees 75g: 140+ lbs LR, 90+ lbs LS, 20+/- g sump (LR & Macro) coral beauty, bicolor blenny ,java scott damsel,2 clowns, 6 line wrasse and assorted hermits and snails 4 diff kinds of shrooms, 2 diff zooas, 2 diff star polyps and a frogspawn that is ready to split and a "free" Kenya tree. 2 - #4 Hydor Koralia's TERM II installed and pumping gunk Lighting - Current Extreme 260 watts - 2 T5 12k white (460nm) and 2 actinic with moon light on a timer for 8 to 9 hrs total.

05-13-2004, 09:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
tommyp Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VT Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	clown gobies Thry don't school but are real colorful I have a green and a yellow. They are bothersome to sps but if it is a softy lps tank than you are fine. __________________ "I think that you can start the bombs of oceanrunner. They are good bombs for a rollback." 190g (60x30x25) upgrade in progress, 90g basement sump Check it out here!

05-13-2004, 09:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	tom is'nt that a watchman gobie? __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

05-13-2004, 09:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
tommyp Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VT Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	nope yellow clown watchman are skinny and long This is a watchman http://www.reeftalk.com/reviews/data...lowatchman.jpg __________________ "I think that you can start the bombs of oceanrunner. They are good bombs for a rollback." 190g (60x30x25) upgrade in progress, 90g basement sump Check it out here! Last edited by tommyp : 05-13-2004 at 09:47 AM.

05-13-2004, 09:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
tommyp Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VT Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	This is a yellow clown http://www.reeftalk.com/reviews/data...n_okinawae.jpg __________________ "I think that you can start the bombs of oceanrunner. They are good bombs for a rollback." 190g (60x30x25) upgrade in progress, 90g basement sump Check it out here! Last edited by tommyp : 05-13-2004 at 09:45 AM.

05-13-2004, 09:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
tommyp Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VT Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	Green clown Goby __________________ "I think that you can start the bombs of oceanrunner. They are good bombs for a rollback." 190g (60x30x25) upgrade in progress, 90g basement sump Check it out here!

05-13-2004, 02:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CARMEL. INDIANA Posts: 3,450 View Gallery Karma Komment	ok i stand corrected tommyp, now do i have to go stand in the corner lol __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

05-13-2004, 06:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
tommyp Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VT Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	LOL wood, wasn't trying to beat ya over the head just wanted to put some pics out there for people who haven't seem them. One of the most knowlegable members of my reef club kept calling my yellow goby a citron and I tried to correct him but ahh to no avail. I love the gobies and have thought about an all goby tank. they have a ton of personality for their size. especially the yellow clown. and no you don't have to go to the corner. maybe just a few push ups. sorry just got off the field Tom __________________ "I think that you can start the bombs of oceanrunner. They are good bombs for a rollback." 190g (60x30x25) upgrade in progress, 90g basement sump Check it out here! Last edited by tommyp : 05-13-2004 at 06:14 PM.

05-13-2004, 06:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
gaubow Star Polyps Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: chicagoland Posts: 161 View Gallery Karma Komment	I won't ever have another tomato in my tank. He was a bully and I couldn't get rid of him. I guess he never made me mad enough to actually buy a trap and do the deed. Anyway, so far the best fish that I have had was an Allan Damsel. Very passive damsel but a very reflective, deep blue. If you are sold on a clown... get a regular perc. Another great, active group is the dwarf angels. I personally like the bright colors of the lemon peel. I've had two. I just don't know what the pro's will recommend as to how big of a tank that you should have.

05-14-2004, 09:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gumby Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Miamisburg OH Posts: 405 View Gallery Karma Komment	gaubow, do you have a pic of an allen damsel? our java scott is deep reflective blue with a yellow swish on his underbody. __________________ Seeking Reefer Enlightenment i am the lorax, i speak for the trees 75g: 140+ lbs LR, 90+ lbs LS, 20+/- g sump (LR & Macro) coral beauty, bicolor blenny ,java scott damsel,2 clowns, 6 line wrasse and assorted hermits and snails 4 diff kinds of shrooms, 2 diff zooas, 2 diff star polyps and a frogspawn that is ready to split and a "free" Kenya tree. 2 - #4 Hydor Koralia's TERM II installed and pumping gunk Lighting - Current Extreme 260 watts - 2 T5 12k white (460nm) and 2 actinic with moon light on a timer for 8 to 9 hrs total.

05-14-2004, 09:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
Gumby Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Miamisburg OH Posts: 405 View Gallery Karma Komment	Tommy p I have been talking with the wife about the clown gobies for quite a while....hopefully...sooon, she will make decision. I also have been trying to maybe talk her into a pistol shirmp and goby pair. Maybe a yellow watchman and a pistol shrimp. She doesn't know what she wants...... __________________ Seeking Reefer Enlightenment i am the lorax, i speak for the trees 75g: 140+ lbs LR, 90+ lbs LS, 20+/- g sump (LR & Macro) coral beauty, bicolor blenny ,java scott damsel,2 clowns, 6 line wrasse and assorted hermits and snails 4 diff kinds of shrooms, 2 diff zooas, 2 diff star polyps and a frogspawn that is ready to split and a "free" Kenya tree. 2 - #4 Hydor Koralia's TERM II installed and pumping gunk Lighting - Current Extreme 260 watts - 2 T5 12k white (460nm) and 2 actinic with moon light on a timer for 8 to 9 hrs total.

05-14-2004, 10:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
Gumby Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Miamisburg OH Posts: 405 View Gallery Karma Komment	what about anthias in a 30g? The wife has asked what about butterflies? __________________ Seeking Reefer Enlightenment i am the lorax, i speak for the trees 75g: 140+ lbs LR, 90+ lbs LS, 20+/- g sump (LR & Macro) coral beauty, bicolor blenny ,java scott damsel,2 clowns, 6 line wrasse and assorted hermits and snails 4 diff kinds of shrooms, 2 diff zooas, 2 diff star polyps and a frogspawn that is ready to split and a "free" Kenya tree. 2 - #4 Hydor Koralia's TERM II installed and pumping gunk Lighting - Current Extreme 260 watts - 2 T5 12k white (460nm) and 2 actinic with moon light on a timer for 8 to 9 hrs total.

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