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Old 10-19-2008, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

So I was at Publix today and saw outside the store a Glacier water machine. It is 39 Cents a Gallon. It shows on the front of the machine what filters it goes through before dispensing the water. It goes through about 5 filters I think. One of them being an RO filter and another one being a UV sterilizer. I forgot the others but none of them were DI filters. Would this be ok to use in the tank. All I have been using so far in the tank has been RO/DI from the LFS but this is soooo much cheaper, cutting the price more then half! Would this be okay water to use inside the tank?? I would really like to go this way if at all possible. I have 150g mix of instant ocean sitting around for a few months now and I would like to start using it and mixing my own water so I can get a SG reading that I want.

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Old 10-19-2008, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

If you are going to buy water from anywhere invest in a TDS meter (total dissolved solids). Test the water for chlorine etc before mixing it with salt. You dont know how often they change their filter cartridges. I would bet that there are plenty of machines out there that dont have filters, despite what they say!
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

See the thing is though that I only have a 24 gallon tank so right now buying the water for water changes doesn't cost too much. But I would like to go cheaper if at all possible because everything else is skyrocketing in price. I guess I should start looking into RO/DI filters but right now I want to get an ATO first then the RO/DI. So for now I am going to have to buy the water.
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

I use glacier water in my tank, but I don't have a TDS so I can't tell you for sure whether or not it's the best. I think I'm going to take a sample to the fish store this next friday, since I have to go that way anyways.
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

Ok great! Is good to hear from somebody using it. Have you had any problems? Any excess algae or anything to be concerned of? Or does everything look normal?
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

I have had some brown algae growth. I once used Culligan water from a local grocery, and I suspect that their filters were bad, because I had a dyno outbreak. I should have known... There was sediment built up around the faucet. Since I switched to Glacier I've had some brown algae, but it's hard for me to say whether or not it's the dyno's coming back. This could be due to alot of factors tho. Not enough rock, insufficient cleaning crew, etc...
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

Unless you get a zero TDS reading, I would avoid use of this water. DI is the largely responsible for filtering out the final traces of harmful trace minerals, Phosphatesm etc.

Recently there was an article on Yahoo (I think yahoo) that discussed all of the bottled water that we buy and they showed that much of it is barely different than our tap water. At one time, I used distilled water from the grocery store and that registered a zero on my TDS meter. Go with distilled if you can find RO/DI from a fellow reef keeper or an LFS.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

For all the time and $$ you already have invested in your system I wouldn't leave the more critical part of your system (the water) to chance. As mentioned before you're relying on someone else to hold up their end of the bargain and change the filters as required. what if it's employee A's time to change the filter and he/she is sick that day. No one else knows this and the filters aren't changed until the NEXT cycle.

I think that not having your own RO/DI unit leaving WAY to much of your system to chance.

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Old 10-20-2008, 12:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Looks like ill be getting an RO/DI!
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

Does anyone have any good suggestions for an ATO and an RO/DI system?
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

I'll definitely be getting my own RO/Di after Christmas, but simply can't afford it right now...
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Air Water & Ice are sponsors here and have GREAT RO/DI units. The bonus is they give RS members a discount.

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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

I just bought the Typhoon III from them using the discount. Good stuff. I have a pretty small tank and won't be using it for drinking, so if you're in my area (Des Moines) I can probably help you out. Once I figure out how and where to install the thing.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Using Glacier Water Machines for tank?

Thanks but I am in Florida so that might be a little problem! lol Thanks Al I am def gonna have to check them out!
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