Mantis heart attack

arizonagrace · 09-17-2008, 02:19 PM

I got a piece of liverock today as a centerpiece for my new 12 gallon.

Imagine my surprise when my niece said "look at that thing that jumped off the rock". I looked in and found this lobster looking thing in the tank sitting on top of the sand. I freaked out! It was a mantis shrimp! I think it was oxygen starved as it was on liverock that wasn't in water for about 10+ minutes. My niece quickly grabbed a net and got him, and I looked him up in the my book and sure enough it was a mantis.

I didn't know what else to do, so I flushed him down the toilet. I know these things can be pretty nasty, and didn't want to deal with bagging him and taking him back to the store, and don't know if they would even take him.

After flushing him, I quickly cleaned the toilet with chemicals and flushed it 3 more times.

This little guy will go down the drain, won't he? I don't want to be "indisposed" and find him still in there. I hear they have the force of a .22 caliber bullet, and pray he won't be banging around in the pipes.

sambrinar · 09-17-2008, 02:22 PM

Well, lots of people do buy them, there is a mantis thread on here. you might be getting some flack.. But they scare me too..

They can be nasty, but you can keep them in the tank.. Doesn't matter now, huh? .. he should have gone down the toilet with the 1st swish.

Check out the mantis thread, some are really pretty

BEELZEBOB · 09-17-2008, 02:25 PM

way to kill an innocent creature, you want like an applause?

nice complete dissreguard of life.

you could have saved it and sold it, or done the right thing and taken it back.

BigAl07 · 09-17-2008, 02:25 PM

Some people LOVE them others HATE them. I don't have much of an opinion either way. I've seen some that were AMAZINGLY colorful and they are smart.

Odds are the Fresh water, Septic Bacteria and the chemicals would do him in. If not he'll probably come back in a few years the size of a COW and really be mad! JUST Kidding

There are much more humane ways to get rid of such but that's another issue and in my eyes "to each their own".

sambrinar · 09-17-2008, 02:27 PM

I told you were gonna get flack... didn't take long... I was expecting Bob to appear...

Here is a thread, actually Bob's
Bobs Nano Mantis Madness Tank Of Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!!!!

prow · 09-17-2008, 02:37 PM

well, i hope you dont live close to my beach, i know i will find him the hard way if you do, lol. with a little girl in the house and being courious getting rid of it was a good thing, IMO. i think i would have done the same thing, flushed it or crushed it and trash it. no worries on it living, i am sure its dead, it will not distroy your plumbing trying to get out.

untilthen · 09-17-2008, 03:05 PM

jeez guys... crushing and flushing... sounds a lil extreme... u could have had a rare mantis in ur rock that u could have sold to the lfs... or shoot someone might have even bought it off ya...

BigJay · 09-17-2008, 03:07 PM

speaky strictly monetarily mantis have a value now. You probably could have gotten 10-30 bucks for it depending. If nothing else donated it to the LFS to sell to someone else. And the very least you could have recycled it for fish food.

nikkipigtails · 09-17-2008, 03:11 PM

That poor guy! I don't have an opinion about whether mantis shrimps are good or bad, but it's still a living creature. It should have been shown some respect. You could have bagged it and taken it to a LFS.

BEELZEBOB · 09-17-2008, 03:13 PM

i really cannot post anything rational.

blue_eyes53813 · 09-17-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BEELZEBOB

way to kill an innocent creature, you want like an applause?

nice complete dissreguard of life.

you could have saved it and sold it, or done the right thing and taken it back.

LOL We could go round and round about this subject, huh BOB ?

We have all done it Arizonagrace. I have had like 5 Hitchhiker crabs that have eaten a lot of my polyps over the years. And when I finally would catch them I would dispose of them...

Bob and I have gone round and round about the time he chopped up an innocent live damsel for mantis shrimp food...

Now I have learned that these innocent hitchhikers can live in someones tank who likes them and can even live in a sump or fuge instead of a main tank.

I guess to save you from all the hassle from here on out and if you find anymore post on here instead of flushing... Someone may want it and take it off your hands for you...

BigAl07 · 09-17-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by untilthen

jeez guys... crushing and flushing... sounds a lil extreme... u could have had a rare mantis in ur rock that u could have sold to the lfs... or shoot someone might have even bought it off ya...

Yes to some extreme and to some "just right". It's all in your own personal thoughts and beliefs.

arizonagrace · 09-17-2008, 03:17 PM

I do feel bad about flushing him, but at the time, my niece was running toward the toilet with him. My first thought was to catch it and leave it in a net until I could figure what to do, but I guess my cousin freaked me out by yelling to my niece to flush it quick before it struck her.

I know there are beautiful ones out there, but in my area, no store will take them in. It's a shame I didn't have another tank to put him in until I could have given him to someone.

We have learned our lesson and we are fully ashamed.

bskinn77 · 09-17-2008, 03:19 PM

Its funny how freaked out people get of these AMAZING creatures

BEELZEBOB · 09-17-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

I do feel bad about flushing him, but at the time, my niece was running toward the toilet with him. My first thought was to catch it and leave it in a net until I could figure what to do, but I guess my cousin freaked me out by yelling to my niece to flush it quick before it struck her.

I know there are beautiful ones out there, but in my area, no store will take them in. It's a shame I didn't have another tank to put him in until I could have given him to someone.

We have learned our lesson and we are fully ashamed.

well, then you are fully redeamed in my eyes.

i just have a REAL BIG soft spot for them. lil googly eyes, inquisitive personalities, and the fact that they are just about one of the most intellegent critters you can keep in a reef.

it seemed like your first post was like "HA" soo yea, i got a lil butthurt.

i just love mantis shrimps.

09-17-2008, 02:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
arizonagrace Cabbage Leather Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 364 View Gallery Karma Komment	Mantis heart attack I got a piece of liverock today as a centerpiece for my new 12 gallon. Imagine my surprise when my niece said "look at that thing that jumped off the rock". I looked in and found this lobster looking thing in the tank sitting on top of the sand. I freaked out! It was a mantis shrimp! I think it was oxygen starved as it was on liverock that wasn't in water for about 10+ minutes. My niece quickly grabbed a net and got him, and I looked him up in the my book and sure enough it was a mantis. I didn't know what else to do, so I flushed him down the toilet. I know these things can be pretty nasty, and didn't want to deal with bagging him and taking him back to the store, and don't know if they would even take him. After flushing him, I quickly cleaned the toilet with chemicals and flushed it 3 more times. This little guy will go down the drain, won't he? I don't want to be "indisposed" and find him still in there. I hear they have the force of a .22 caliber bullet, and pray he won't be banging around in the pipes.

09-17-2008, 02:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,420 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Mantis heart attack Well, lots of people do buy them, there is a mantis thread on here. you might be getting some flack.. But they scare me too.. They can be nasty, but you can keep them in the tank.. Doesn't matter now, huh? .. he should have gone down the toilet with the 1st swish. Check out the mantis thread, some are really pretty __________________ Brenda Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music ~ George Carlin Original member of http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...eef-holic.html My addiction 75 gal glass http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ce-sanity.html

09-17-2008, 02:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Mantis heart attack way to kill an innocent creature, you want like an applause? nice complete dissreguard of life. you could have saved it and sold it, or done the right thing and taken it back. __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

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BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Mantis heart attack Some people LOVE them others HATE them. I don't have much of an opinion either way. I've seen some that were AMAZINGLY colorful and they are smart. Odds are the Fresh water, Septic Bacteria and the chemicals would do him in. If not he'll probably come back in a few years the size of a COW and really be mad! JUST Kidding There are much more humane ways to get rid of such but that's another issue and in my eyes "to each their own". __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-17-2008, 02:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,420 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Mantis heart attack I told you were gonna get flack... didn't take long... I was expecting Bob to appear... Here is a thread, actually Bob's Bobs Nano Mantis Madness Tank Of Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!!!! __________________ Brenda Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music ~ George Carlin Original member of http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...eef-holic.html My addiction 75 gal glass http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ce-sanity.html

09-17-2008, 02:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,728 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Mantis heart attack well, i hope you dont live close to my beach, i know i will find him the hard way if you do, lol. with a little girl in the house and being courious getting rid of it was a good thing, IMO. i think i would have done the same thing, flushed it or crushed it and trash it. no worries on it living, i am sure its dead, it will not distroy your plumbing trying to get out. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

09-17-2008, 03:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
untilthen Scopas Tang Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canton, MICHIGAN Posts: 411 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Mantis heart attack jeez guys... crushing and flushing... sounds a lil extreme... u could have had a rare mantis in ur rock that u could have sold to the lfs... or shoot someone might have even bought it off ya... __________________ AHOY My 20 gallon loooong 10 gallon mantis tank

09-17-2008, 03:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
BigJay Golden Moray Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,556 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Mantis heart attack speaky strictly monetarily mantis have a value now. You probably could have gotten 10-30 bucks for it depending. If nothing else donated it to the LFS to sell to someone else. And the very least you could have recycled it for fish food. __________________ Reefing off and on since '92 BigJay's Oceanic 90g bowfront chronicle See my pyrex products and target feeders here

09-17-2008, 03:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
nikkipigtails Manta Ray Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,033 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Mantis heart attack That poor guy! I don't have an opinion about whether mantis shrimps are good or bad, but it's still a living creature. It should have been shown some respect. You could have bagged it and taken it to a LFS. __________________ No man ever reached excellence in any one art or profession without having passed through the slow and painful process of study and preparation. - Horace

09-17-2008, 03:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Mantis heart attack i really cannot post anything rational. __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

09-17-2008, 03:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
arizonagrace Cabbage Leather Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 364 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Mantis heart attack I do feel bad about flushing him, but at the time, my niece was running toward the toilet with him. My first thought was to catch it and leave it in a net until I could figure what to do, but I guess my cousin freaked me out by yelling to my niece to flush it quick before it struck her. I know there are beautiful ones out there, but in my area, no store will take them in. It's a shame I didn't have another tank to put him in until I could have given him to someone. We have learned our lesson and we are fully ashamed.

09-17-2008, 03:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
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