Cyanide killing reefs

cheeks69 · 04-07-2004, 10:46 PM

I know this is old news but I figure maybe some people don't know how common the use of cyanide has become. I was naive enough to believe that this practice was diminishing.

Dead in the water

BoomerD · 04-07-2004, 11:01 PM

Unfortunately, the practice gets more and more widespread every year. The collectors don't care that they're killing the reef, only that they get paid for what they catch today. The hobby/industry needs to implement some type of cyanide test, and implement total bans on fish caught with cyanide or any other drug as well. Gonna put a lot of fish in short supply, but at least the ones we get will live...
I remember reading that there is a mortality rate of over 80% of the fish dying between capture and getting to our tanks. That's one of the reasons I get so darned upset about the needless fish deaths in our/my tanks. Sometime $hit Happens, and is mostly out of our control, but mixing non-compatible fish, not quarantining, and not acclimating are just examples of pure negligence.
As I posted in another thread, if we don't start being more responsible, we will lose a big piece of our hobby.
Off the stinkin soapbox Boomer!!

Electrobes · 04-08-2004, 12:49 AM

you know what I am afraid of? Some day when all reefs are gone the goverment are going to rob my corals and say they plan on replnishing the coral population that they destroyed, and say "have a nice day" as they clumsily place the corals in some horrid shipping method and send them off.

cheeks69 · 04-08-2004, 05:44 PM

I think the problem in these places where cyanide use is common is poverty and greed. Who's gonna worry about the reef and fish if your starving !

jks1 · 04-08-2004, 08:16 PM

I agree cheeks, and as much as I hate to admit it I would pay a few more bucks for stuff to make it worth while for the collectors to spend the extr effort to net collect w/o drugs. I think in several years aquaculture will replace wild collecting.

cheeks69 · 04-08-2004, 08:20 PM

I think one possibility would be to ban any fish imported from these places unless they can show that the fish are net collected. You have to hit these places in the wallet for them to get the hint.JMHO

Montanareefer · 04-09-2004, 11:22 AM

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you know what I am afraid of? Some day when all reefs are gone the goverment are going to rob my corals and say they plan on replnishing the coral population that they destroyed

Better bring a bigger gun than the one I have!

EdgeKrusher · 04-09-2004, 11:36 AM

Cheeks the only problem is that the companies that buy these fish from the poor collectors could care less about what is happening to the reefs. The thinking is "we didn't do it... they did." Everyone will point the finger at the other, and the problem will never be solved.
Montanreefer,
I agree 100%, the only thing that will make me hand over my corals peacfully is the barrle of an M1A2-Abrams tank.

04-07-2004, 10:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,386 View Gallery Karma Komment	Cyanide killing reefs I know this is old news but I figure maybe some people don't know how common the use of cyanide has become. I was naive enough to believe that this practice was diminishing. Dead in the water __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

04-08-2004, 05:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,386 View Gallery Karma Komment	I think the problem in these places where cyanide use is common is poverty and greed. Who's gonna worry about the reef and fish if your starving ! __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

04-08-2004, 08:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
jks1 Achilles Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 876 View Gallery Karma Komment	I agree cheeks, and as much as I hate to admit it I would pay a few more bucks for stuff to make it worth while for the collectors to spend the extr effort to net collect w/o drugs. I think in several years aquaculture will replace wild collecting. __________________ John Tank: 29g glass Pumps: Mag5.0 return - (3) rio 100 PHs Lighting: (1) 150w XM 10K/(2) 30W actinics Equipment: Aqua C Urchin skimmer- CPR Fuge, Titanium Heater -Red Sea wavemaster Pro Tank: 210g 1/2" Acrylic, dual overflows, 75g glass sump w/ 20g fuge. Pumps: Mag24 return - (2) MAG24s running 2 closed loop systems. Lighting: (3) 400w XM 10K/(2) Custom Sealife 96w PC - 25w dimmable incandescent Moonlight Equipment: Aqua C EV180 skimmer - CR500 calc reactor - Titanium Heater - AquaLogic single Stage Temp Controller - Aquanetics 1/5Hp Chiller - Neptune sys aquacontroller

04-08-2004, 08:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,386 View Gallery Karma Komment	I think one possibility would be to ban any fish imported from these places unless they can show that the fish are net collected. You have to hit these places in the wallet for them to get the hint.JMHO __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

04-09-2004, 11:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
EdgeKrusher Plate Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN Posts: 716 View Gallery Karma Komment	Cheeks the only problem is that the companies that buy these fish from the poor collectors could care less about what is happening to the reefs. The thinking is "we didn't do it... they did." Everyone will point the finger at the other, and the problem will never be solved. Montanreefer, I agree 100%, the only thing that will make me hand over my corals peacfully is the barrle of an M1A2-Abrams tank. __________________ ((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸>< ((((º>¸¸.·´¯`·.¸. `·.. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.

04-07-2004, 11:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Unfortunately, the practice gets more and more widespread every year. The collectors don't care that they're killing the reef, only that they get paid for what they catch today. The hobby/industry needs to implement some type of cyanide test, and implement total bans on fish caught with cyanide or any other drug as well. Gonna put a lot of fish in short supply, but at least the ones we get will live... I remember reading that there is a mortality rate of over 80% of the fish dying between capture and getting to our tanks. That's one of the reasons I get so darned upset about the needless fish deaths in our/my tanks. Sometime $hit Happens, and is mostly out of our control, but mixing non-compatible fish, not quarantining, and not acclimating are just examples of pure negligence. As I posted in another thread, if we don't start being more responsible, we will lose a big piece of our hobby. Off the stinkin soapbox Boomer!!

04-08-2004, 12:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Electrobes Midas Blenny Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	you know what I am afraid of? Some day when all reefs are gone the goverment are going to rob my corals and say they plan on replnishing the coral population that they destroyed, and say "have a nice day" as they clumsily place the corals in some horrid shipping method and send them off.

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