is this ich

edonatto · 04-07-2004, 10:17 AM

i have an angelfish tat 2 days ago began getting white dots on her body, i thought it was ich, but when i came home from work, the dots had dissapeared, but todat inthe morning they are back, the lfs guy says it is not ich, he thinks that are small pieces of sand that get attached to her body at night.
it is strange cause the spots are onlu present at night or early in the morning and then dissapear,they are all over her body, includding her eyes.
she is eating fine,and no changes on her behavior

what is it

RanRoc · 04-07-2004, 10:46 AM

is she scratching against the rocks or substrate? Breathing heavily? Could be sand. My fish get it all the time.
-RY

Cougra · 04-07-2004, 10:47 AM

It's a good possibility that it is ick and the fish are scratching them off during the day. If possible watch the fish throughout the day and see if they are scratching a lot.

edonatto · 04-07-2004, 10:57 AM

she is not scratching against the rocks, no heavy breathing , eating fine , no strange movements.

she has a couple in her eyes, i have never seen ich on the eyes in freshwater

beyondreef · 04-07-2004, 12:39 PM

sounds like ich to me but keep your eye out for scratching from him and your other fish.

Cougra · 04-07-2004, 12:58 PM

If they aren't scratching and otherwise in good health, then I wouldn't worry about it. They may well have been sleeping in the sand and a few grains have attached to them.

Don't panick and treat the tank unless you know for certian there is a problem.

edonatto · 04-07-2004, 01:04 PM

thanks guys i will be watching

Boomer · 04-07-2004, 02:10 PM

It sounds to me like you have that rare very short cyclic form of ick. I have only seen it twice in 35 years. The fish only get infected at night usually and come moring it is gone. You can almost time it when it is on and off. I hope there are no tangs in this tank. And yes ick can infect the eyes, to include FW fish. You better hope this strain of ick does no take off and infect the other fish if you have any oryou will be in big trouble. A tang won't last more than a day or two.

The solution to the problem is to wait 3-4 hours after it seems to be all gone of the fish and then remove them from the tank and then dipped in a fresh mix of SW (a rinsing) and put in another tank for a week or so. And hope it works, it did for me.

It is up to you if you just want to watch or do something about it.

I doubt it is sand, it is a angel. Are you sure it is not just air bubbles

edonatto · 04-07-2004, 05:13 PM

now i see why mr wizard
thats a good explanation, it is strange cause in the early morning she is full of white spots,and in the evening completely clean, so i guess it is better to take her out of the water,
i will tell you guys how things go on
and no it ait air bubbles

Boomer · 04-07-2004, 07:00 PM

Just a short note.

Could mine have been sand ? Ah nope, no such thing as sand and in a bare bottom tank

04-07-2004, 10:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
edonatto Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: costa rica Posts: 99 View Gallery Karma Komment	is this ich i have an angelfish tat 2 days ago began getting white dots on her body, i thought it was ich, but when i came home from work, the dots had dissapeared, but todat inthe morning they are back, the lfs guy says it is not ich, he thinks that are small pieces of sand that get attached to her body at night. it is strange cause the spots are onlu present at night or early in the morning and then dissapear,they are all over her body, includding her eyes. she is eating fine,and no changes on her behavior what is it __________________ edonatto nothing at the lfs costs more than 50 bucks

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RanRoc Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central Florida: GO KNIGHTS!!! Posts: 443 View Gallery Karma Komment	is she scratching against the rocks or substrate? Breathing heavily? Could be sand. My fish get it all the time. -RY __________________ My Disclaimer for any Advice I Give: I Could Be Wrong... Randy's Rockin' Reef MANGROVE ROOT GANG

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Cougra Dragon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2,216 View Gallery Karma Komment	It's a good possibility that it is ick and the fish are scratching them off during the day. If possible watch the fish throughout the day and see if they are scratching a lot. __________________ Michelle Just because something CAN be done, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done!

04-07-2004, 10:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
edonatto Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: costa rica Posts: 99 View Gallery Karma Komment	she is not scratching against the rocks, no heavy breathing , eating fine , no strange movements. she has a couple in her eyes, i have never seen ich on the eyes in freshwater __________________ edonatto nothing at the lfs costs more than 50 bucks

04-07-2004, 12:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cougra Dragon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2,216 View Gallery Karma Komment	If they aren't scratching and otherwise in good health, then I wouldn't worry about it. They may well have been sleeping in the sand and a few grains have attached to them. Don't panick and treat the tank unless you know for certian there is a problem. __________________ Michelle Just because something CAN be done, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done!

04-07-2004, 12:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
beyondreef Bryozoan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Logan Posts: 51 View Gallery Karma Komment	sounds like ich to me but keep your eye out for scratching from him and your other fish.

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edonatto Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: costa rica Posts: 99 View Gallery Karma Komment	thanks guys i will be watching __________________ edonatto nothing at the lfs costs more than 50 bucks

04-07-2004, 02:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,607 View Gallery Karma Komment	It sounds to me like you have that rare very short cyclic form of ick. I have only seen it twice in 35 years. The fish only get infected at night usually and come moring it is gone. You can almost time it when it is on and off. I hope there are no tangs in this tank. And yes ick can infect the eyes, to include FW fish. You better hope this strain of ick does no take off and infect the other fish if you have any oryou will be in big trouble. A tang won't last more than a day or two. The solution to the problem is to wait 3-4 hours after it seems to be all gone of the fish and then remove them from the tank and then dipped in a fresh mix of SW (a rinsing) and put in another tank for a week or so. And hope it works, it did for me. It is up to you if you just want to watch or do something about it. I doubt it is sand, it is a angel. Are you sure it is not just air bubbles __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

04-07-2004, 05:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
edonatto Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: costa rica Posts: 99 View Gallery Karma Komment	now i see why mr wizard thats a good explanation, it is strange cause in the early morning she is full of white spots,and in the evening completely clean, so i guess it is better to take her out of the water, i will tell you guys how things go on and no it ait air bubbles __________________ edonatto nothing at the lfs costs more than 50 bucks

04-07-2004, 07:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,607 View Gallery Karma Komment	Just a short note. Could mine have been sand ? Ah nope, no such thing as sand and in a bare bottom tank __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

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