Help Fraging Finger leather

cheebman · 06-05-2008, 10:23 AM

hey,

do i cut off a finger, or cut the whole thing in half? im assuming u cut off a finger..

thanks

Dentoid · 06-05-2008, 10:28 AM

You can do either. Cutting off one finger would be fragging. Cutting it in half would be dividing.

lcstorc · 06-05-2008, 10:28 AM

I cut off a finger.
The parent will quickly heal but run some carbon to remove any toxins.
The frag can be difficult to attach. I have had the most success putting the bottom between 2 small rocks and loosely rubberband them together.

BigAl07 · 06-05-2008, 10:43 AM

Yes just a finger. The last time I did it I only cut the TIP of a finger and ended up with a nice small frag and the cut area seemed to heal better and look better than a whole finger gone. I did this for an "Exact" reason because I wanted a small frag for a friend who needed a smaller than finger. It worked out great and the mother colony doesn't look as "Fraggled".

Make sure it's the Leather finger your cutting not cheebman's finger. Your finger wont frag nearly as well.

Good call on the carbon. They do get PO'ed when you cut em.

cheebman · 06-05-2008, 11:01 AM

thanks guys,

i have pristien water conditions, good filtration (with carbon) and a protien skimmer.. what are the chances of the leather coral toxins hurting my tank?

BigAl07 · 06-05-2008, 12:08 PM

If you're actively running carbon very small. Honestly it's just a defense mechanism of this type of coral (and of MANY corals actually). Just keep on top of your water params and take note if you happen to see anything unusual. Sometimes other corals will "pout" but it shouldn't be anything to worry about especially long term.

cheebman · 06-05-2008, 02:36 PM

Thanks bigAL,
recently i started a 10 gal tank for an octopus or something of that nature, but relized/learned that the tank is to small. Im new to the hobby 3months but that was one of the first things i learned was- 1in of fish per 5gal of water

so i knew better b4 i stared the 10gal but wasnt even thinking.

ive decided to use it as a frag tank... as u can see on my signature i have a good assortment to take frags from.. to trade with friends or with my LFS.

getting new coral without spending my hard earned cash is always better

peace

BigAl07 · 06-05-2008, 02:37 PM

Sounds like you're well on your way to a GREAT frag tank

lcstorc · 06-05-2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl07

Yes just a finger. The last time I did it I only cut the TIP of a finger and ended up with a nice small frag and the cut area seemed to heal better and look better than a whole finger gone. I did this for an "Exact" reason because I wanted a small frag for a friend who needed a smaller than finger. It worked out great and the mother colony doesn't look as "Fraggled".

Make sure it's the Leather finger your cutting not cheebman's finger. Your finger wont frag nearly as well.

Good call on the carbon. They do get PO'ed when you cut em.

Wouldn't you get PO'ed if somebody cut one of your fingers off even partially?

I've never had a problem with the toxins but then again I alway run carbon in a reactor since I have quite a few leathers and I always have to keep my eyes open for chemical warfare.

BigAl07 · 06-05-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

Wouldn't you get PO'ed if somebody cut one of your fingers off even partially?

Very good point. Up to now I've only done that to myself.... several times and even ONE time crushing it in a 1Ton press (talk about MESSY)

I like to run carbon 1 week out of 4 but I ALWAYS have some ready... any sign of ANYTHING out of whack and it's "Carbons AWAY!" I drop a bag just about as quick as taking an aspirin for a headache.

cheebman · 06-05-2008, 03:03 PM

all this stuff if new to me..

chemical war far? shhhh.. they might think were involed in some terrorist activity

.. where do u put your carbon?

the LFS told me to put it in with my bioballs (on top of them) in my sump.. should i just throw it in the sump it self or keep it where i have it?

lcstorc · 06-05-2008, 03:05 PM

Put it wherever there is a decent amount of flow through it.
Most corals have some type of defense. Leathers use chemical warfare. LPS have sweeper tentacles that sting.

cheebman · 06-05-2008, 03:07 PM

hey lcstorc , i see your from cocoa.. small world im from melbourne.. lets get together and trade some frags..

06-05-2008, 10:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
cheebman Fire Coral Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	Help Fraging Finger leather hey, do i cut off a finger, or cut the whole thing in half? im assuming u cut off a finger.. thanks __________________ *28gal BowFront Reef Tank* 250watt MetalHalide w/ 2 65watt Atinic blue PC's w/ 8 LED's 75gal capacity wet/dry w/prefilter/overflow box magdrive 700 Hydor Koralia 1 coralife super skimmer (protien skimmer) 23 pounds of live rock 15 pounds live sand --- 2 clown fish --- 1) purple/orange ridicola mush, 3) frilly-lavender w/ green tips mush's, Burgandy w/ green mouth Zoo's, Purple/pink Zoo's, 2) medium silver branching xenia, 1) small pom pom xenia, green star polyps, Pink devils hand Leather, 1) Small green brain, 2) Green stipped mushrooms, 2) Huge Umbrella Mushrooms, 2 tipped torch coral 2in each, 3 Tipped Green/purple Frog Spawn-Huge, 1 feather duster, 4 Purple Bumpy Mushrooms

06-05-2008, 10:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather I cut off a finger. The parent will quickly heal but run some carbon to remove any toxins. The frag can be difficult to attach. I have had the most success putting the bottom between 2 small rocks and loosely rubberband them together. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

06-05-2008, 10:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather Yes just a finger. The last time I did it I only cut the TIP of a finger and ended up with a nice small frag and the cut area seemed to heal better and look better than a whole finger gone. I did this for an "Exact" reason because I wanted a small frag for a friend who needed a smaller than finger. It worked out great and the mother colony doesn't look as "Fraggled". Make sure it's the Leather finger your cutting not cheebman's finger. Your finger wont frag nearly as well. Good call on the carbon. They do get PO'ed when you cut em. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

06-05-2008, 11:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
cheebman Fire Coral Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather thanks guys, i have pristien water conditions, good filtration (with carbon) and a protien skimmer.. what are the chances of the leather coral toxins hurting my tank? __________________ *28gal BowFront Reef Tank* 250watt MetalHalide w/ 2 65watt Atinic blue PC's w/ 8 LED's 75gal capacity wet/dry w/prefilter/overflow box magdrive 700 Hydor Koralia 1 coralife super skimmer (protien skimmer) 23 pounds of live rock 15 pounds live sand --- 2 clown fish --- 1) purple/orange ridicola mush, 3) frilly-lavender w/ green tips mush's, Burgandy w/ green mouth Zoo's, Purple/pink Zoo's, 2) medium silver branching xenia, 1) small pom pom xenia, green star polyps, Pink devils hand Leather, 1) Small green brain, 2) Green stipped mushrooms, 2) Huge Umbrella Mushrooms, 2 tipped torch coral 2in each, 3 Tipped Green/purple Frog Spawn-Huge, 1 feather duster, 4 Purple Bumpy Mushrooms

06-05-2008, 12:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather If you're actively running carbon very small. Honestly it's just a defense mechanism of this type of coral (and of MANY corals actually). Just keep on top of your water params and take note if you happen to see anything unusual. Sometimes other corals will "pout" but it shouldn't be anything to worry about especially long term. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

06-05-2008, 02:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
cheebman Fire Coral Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather Thanks bigAL, recently i started a 10 gal tank for an octopus or something of that nature, but relized/learned that the tank is to small. Im new to the hobby 3months but that was one of the first things i learned was- 1in of fish per 5gal of water so i knew better b4 i stared the 10gal but wasnt even thinking. ive decided to use it as a frag tank... as u can see on my signature i have a good assortment to take frags from.. to trade with friends or with my LFS. getting new coral without spending my hard earned cash is always better peace __________________ *28gal BowFront Reef Tank* 250watt MetalHalide w/ 2 65watt Atinic blue PC's w/ 8 LED's 75gal capacity wet/dry w/prefilter/overflow box magdrive 700 Hydor Koralia 1 coralife super skimmer (protien skimmer) 23 pounds of live rock 15 pounds live sand --- 2 clown fish --- 1) purple/orange ridicola mush, 3) frilly-lavender w/ green tips mush's, Burgandy w/ green mouth Zoo's, Purple/pink Zoo's, 2) medium silver branching xenia, 1) small pom pom xenia, green star polyps, Pink devils hand Leather, 1) Small green brain, 2) Green stipped mushrooms, 2) Huge Umbrella Mushrooms, 2 tipped torch coral 2in each, 3 Tipped Green/purple Frog Spawn-Huge, 1 feather duster, 4 Purple Bumpy Mushrooms

06-05-2008, 02:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather Sounds like you're well on your way to a GREAT frag tank __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

06-05-2008, 03:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
cheebman Fire Coral Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather all this stuff if new to me.. chemical war far? shhhh.. they might think were involed in some terrorist activity .. where do u put your carbon? the LFS told me to put it in with my bioballs (on top of them) in my sump.. should i just throw it in the sump it self or keep it where i have it? __________________ *28gal BowFront Reef Tank* 250watt MetalHalide w/ 2 65watt Atinic blue PC's w/ 8 LED's 75gal capacity wet/dry w/prefilter/overflow box magdrive 700 Hydor Koralia 1 coralife super skimmer (protien skimmer) 23 pounds of live rock 15 pounds live sand --- 2 clown fish --- 1) purple/orange ridicola mush, 3) frilly-lavender w/ green tips mush's, Burgandy w/ green mouth Zoo's, Purple/pink Zoo's, 2) medium silver branching xenia, 1) small pom pom xenia, green star polyps, Pink devils hand Leather, 1) Small green brain, 2) Green stipped mushrooms, 2) Huge Umbrella Mushrooms, 2 tipped torch coral 2in each, 3 Tipped Green/purple Frog Spawn-Huge, 1 feather duster, 4 Purple Bumpy Mushrooms

06-05-2008, 03:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather Put it wherever there is a decent amount of flow through it. Most corals have some type of defense. Leathers use chemical warfare. LPS have sweeper tentacles that sting. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

06-05-2008, 03:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
cheebman Fire Coral Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Help Fraging Finger leather hey lcstorc , i see your from cocoa.. small world im from melbourne.. lets get together and trade some frags.. __________________ *28gal BowFront Reef Tank* 250watt MetalHalide w/ 2 65watt Atinic blue PC's w/ 8 LED's 75gal capacity wet/dry w/prefilter/overflow box magdrive 700 Hydor Koralia 1 coralife super skimmer (protien skimmer) 23 pounds of live rock 15 pounds live sand --- 2 clown fish --- 1) purple/orange ridicola mush, 3) frilly-lavender w/ green tips mush's, Burgandy w/ green mouth Zoo's, Purple/pink Zoo's, 2) medium silver branching xenia, 1) small pom pom xenia, green star polyps, Pink devils hand Leather, 1) Small green brain, 2) Green stipped mushrooms, 2) Huge Umbrella Mushrooms, 2 tipped torch coral 2in each, 3 Tipped Green/purple Frog Spawn-Huge, 1 feather duster, 4 Purple Bumpy Mushrooms

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