Socks

Varga · 04-28-2008, 12:54 PM

whos using them?

should I be using them?

wouldnt a sock catch tiny creatures that travel between tank and sump?

If socks are OK howcome sponge filters are not?

PEMfish · 04-28-2008, 01:01 PM

Sponge filters are great places for 'bad' bacteria to colonize.

Jake · 04-28-2008, 01:28 PM

I use a sock on the return into the sump. I exchange it weekly with a clean one. I shake out the dirty sock (both sides) into a bucket save the amphods which I put back into the tank. Some make it to the bottom and rock but many get eaten as snacks on the way down.

I use a sponge on my skimmer exit and I rinse this out bi-weekly in my water change waste water then return it to service.

mps9506 · 04-28-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Varga

whos using them?

should I be using them?

wouldnt a sock catch tiny creatures that travel between tank and sump?

If socks are OK howcome sponge filters are not?

I use them. I don't always recommend them though.
If you choose to use a sock buy several so you can change them at least once or twice a week. And yes they will catch anything above the rated micron size of the bag. In my past tanks it wasn't much of an issue.
The reason sponge filters AND socks aren't recommended is because once stuff collects in there and decomposes it is a great place for aerobic bacteria to colonize and release nitrates.
Socks are easy enough to change frequently that this is not an issue. I kept several on hand, swap em out during the week when they start looking brown and at the end of the week wash all of them in bleach and water.

Stacef · 04-28-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PEMfish

Sponge filters are great places for 'bad' bacteria to colonize.

I agree, this is why I choose not to wear socks..I am more of a sandel person. Even in winter, I wish I didn't have to wear tennis shoes/full shoes.

Stacef · 04-28-2008, 04:05 PM

Just thought I'd mess with you

mps9506 · 04-28-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacef

I agree, this is why I choose not to wear socks..I am more of a sandel person. Even in winter, I wish I didn't have to wear tennis shoes/full shoes.

yeah, but without socks you have dirty feet. I see the symptoms here all the time at the beach. People going sockless and at the end off the day they have sand, pods and dirt on the bottom.
Of course I would never recommend socks and sandals, then you get dirty socks.

PEMfish · 04-28-2008, 06:08 PM

vdituri · 04-28-2008, 11:14 PM

What is the best point in a tank to have a sock filter?

Pre-refugium, post refugium?

I'm thinking along the line of best pod population.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mps9506

I use them. I don't always recommend them though.
If you choose to use a sock buy several so you can change them at least once or twice a week. And yes they will catch anything above the rated micron size of the bag. In my past tanks it wasn't much of an issue.
The reason sponge filters AND socks aren't recommended is because once stuff collects in there and decomposes it is a great place for aerobic bacteria to colonize and release nitrates.
Socks are easy enough to change frequently that this is not an issue. I kept several on hand, swap em out during the week when they start looking brown and at the end of the week wash all of them in bleach and water.

mps9506 · 05-02-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vdituri

What is the best point in a tank to have a sock filter?

Pre-refugium, post refugium?

I'm thinking along the line of best pod population.

I run Bare bottom tanks with good flow and turbulence along the bottom to kick up any detritus. The sock allows me to filter out and physically remove uneaten food, fish and crab poop and other stuff from my tank before it breaks down much. this helps with the maintenance of a lower nutrient tank.
If you take a look at most of your "pods" they tend to be benthic critters crawling on your rock, not swimming in the water. I don't think the filter removes a ton of them. I've yet to see any negative affects in a tank that has a "low pod population." Keep in mind removing copepods and having a tank that can't support copepods are two entirely different things.

vdituri · 05-02-2008, 11:23 PM

This is all part of my master plan to have a tank overflowing with pods.
I want to have a mandarin someday. Just don't want my refuge to be a waste of time.

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Jake Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Socks I use a sock on the return into the sump. I exchange it weekly with a clean one. I shake out the dirty sock (both sides) into a bucket save the amphods which I put back into the tank. Some make it to the bottom and rock but many get eaten as snacks on the way down. I use a sponge on my skimmer exit and I rinse this out bi-weekly in my water change waste water then return it to service. __________________ 75 Gal Setup 4/07 Fish: Purple Tang 6", Solarensis Fairy Wrasse, Pajama Cardinal, Two Ocellarous Clowns, Firefish Inverts: Few Red leg hermits, Few Turbo Snails, 3 Nassarius Snails, 3 large Trochus Grazer snails, 3 conch, 1 cleaner shrimp, 2 peppermint shrimp Coral: Frogspawn, Blastos, White Candy Cane, Yellow candycane, Fox Coral, African Blue Xenia, Pom Pom Xenia, Long White Polyp Tip Leather, Pink Pavona, Blue, Green, Orange Recordia, Orange Monti Cap, Kenya Tree, Green Star Polyp, Armour of God Zoa, Cat Eye Zoa, Pink Zoa, Red Zoa.

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