"Balling Method" for supplementing - Page 5

RalfP · 02-27-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodstock

Ralf, I didn't know we could order directly from Grotech! I was planning on ordering my TECH III from Aquarium & Pond products from SeaMe.com - For hobbyist & professional - Only the best is good enough
I couldn't find those bumps here in the US either

FYI.. I just sent an email to AquariumObsessed (only USA distributor

) and DarkLordCoral.

Seems that they don't (Grotech) :-(
I was misleaded by their english menu in the onlineshop, but even the term&condition page behind the engl. menuentry is german .
Ralf

Woodstock · 02-27-2008, 05:08 PM

Booze - email sent to aquariumspecialty.

No Problem Ralf. I knew it was too good to be true

Dentoid · 02-27-2008, 05:19 PM

Doni, does Aquarium products for the Professional and Hobbyist. Shipping all over the world., the company you have researched for the Grotech dosers, have the NaCl free salt? It could be ordered at the same time as the doser.

I'm still fussing for space for this new equipment.

prow · 02-27-2008, 05:43 PM

would "Live Bearer Salt" work here, Live Bearer Salt ? it has some Na+ but minimal amounts. maybe a email to seachem might help.

Woodstock · 02-27-2008, 07:04 PM

Scott, I have emailed them.

Prow, I do not know. I TRIED to email Seachem but it bounced back and said my server was blacklisted

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This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient: <info@seachem.com>
Reason: 5.7.0 your server is blacklisted

No wonder US reefers do not use a sodium chloride free salt! Gezzzz...

It's not available here!!

Dentoid · 02-27-2008, 07:06 PM

If not NaCl, what kind of salt is it?

boozeman · 02-27-2008, 07:22 PM

Blacklisted !!!

its hard to find here because we prefer to use the
co2 reactors instead.

prow · 02-27-2008, 07:27 PM

lol, blacklisted

what did you do??? you must have used the wrong wond

ok, i emailed them about it and asked if they had other mixes that are NaCl- free. we will see what they have to say.

Woodstock · 02-27-2008, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dentoid

If not NaCl, what kind of salt is it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Holmes Farley

For those who are interested, the following artificial seawater recipe is taken from "Chemical Oceanography" by Frank Millero. It makes a recipe that matches 35 ppt seawater in terms of major ions, but does not try to match all minor and trace elements, most of which will be present as impurities in the major elements.

23.98 g sodium chloride
5.029 g magnesium chloride
4.01 g sodium sulfate
1.14 g calcium chloride
0.699 g potassium chloride
0.172 g sodium bicarbonate
0.100 g potassium bromide
0.0254 g boric acid
0.0143 g strontium chloride
0.0029 g sodium fluoride
Water to 1 kg total weight.

So...
Remove the sodium chloride only from the above ingredients to achieve a NaCl-free salt.

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hma · 02-27-2008, 07:50 PM

Hello Doni Marie,

ask Tropic Marine USA where you can buy - Tropic Marine Pro Special Mineral - in the USA. They should be able to tell you a Shop. Or Marine Depot, they sell quite various TM products.

BTW .... here is a link in UK : http://www.tmc-ltd.co.uk/aquarium/tropic-additives.asp

prow · 02-27-2008, 08:05 PM

there you go doni, if TM sells it someone over here should be able to at least special order it.

Woodstock · 02-27-2008, 08:53 PM

Thanks Heinz

I sent an email to Tropic Marin earlier today. I will send one to Marine Depot right now...

Dentoid · 02-27-2008, 08:56 PM

Sorry, I was confused. Now I get it! It's a NaCl free, salt mix.

Woodstock · 02-27-2008, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prow

there you go doni, if TM sells it someone over here should be able to at least special order it.

You'd think so!

No problem Scott! Welcome to my world

hma · 02-27-2008, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodstock

Thanks Heinz

I sent an email to Tropic Marin earlier today. I will send one to Marine Depot right now...

An other option is to ask Claude Schuhmacher, he is the owner of Fauna Marine. He sells his products in the USA via Dark Lord Coral Co. Claude is a fine guy, you reach Him via Contact sheet in his shop (Aqua Terra Shop)

https: // AquaTerraShop - Meerwasser

He vends there NaCl free salt of different manufacturers and can help you certainly.

BTW ... he sells also GroTech III NG dosing pumps in a special order with the balling salt.

https://wwws.aquaterrashop.de/meerwa...oducts_id/2278

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Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,587 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing Doni, does Aquarium products for the Professional and Hobbyist. Shipping all over the world., the company you have researched for the Grotech dosers, have the NaCl free salt? It could be ordered at the same time as the doser. I'm still fussing for space for this new equipment. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

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prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,771 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing would "Live Bearer Salt" work here, Live Bearer Salt ? it has some Na+ but minimal amounts. maybe a email to seachem might help. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step." ........Lao Tzu........ my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html

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prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,771 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing lol, blacklisted what did you do??? you must have used the wrong wond ok, i emailed them about it and asked if they had other mixes that are NaCl- free. we will see what they have to say. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step." ........Lao Tzu........ my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html

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hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,733 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing Hello Doni Marie, ask Tropic Marine USA where you can buy - Tropic Marine Pro Special Mineral - in the USA. They should be able to tell you a Shop. Or Marine Depot, they sell quite various TM products. BTW .... here is a link in UK : http://www.tmc-ltd.co.uk/aquarium/tropic-additives.asp __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

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prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,771 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing there you go doni, if TM sells it someone over here should be able to at least special order it. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step." ........Lao Tzu........ my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html

02-27-2008, 08:53 PM	#72 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 21,670 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing Thanks Heinz I sent an email to Tropic Marin earlier today. I will send one to Marine Depot right now... __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~29 gal QT/Hospital tank~* *~3 gal Pico~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MH, dual Actinic t5s,AquaController III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

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Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 9,587 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: "Balling Method" for supplementing Sorry, I was confused. Now I get it! It's a NaCl free, salt mix. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

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