Xenia

Xtreme1024 · 02-04-2008, 07:47 PM

Hi everyone, on Sunday I decided to stop by the LFS and pick up 3 stalks of Xenia. I acclimated Xenia and by the next day it was opening up and doing great. All of the sudden tonight I noticed it wasn't opeing up and was starting to shrink, any idea of what could of caused the sudden decline. All of the other corals are opening as usual and levels are in check. Must be sonmething I am not testing for, but not sure what.

BEELZEBOB · 02-04-2008, 07:49 PM

gods gift to Xtreme1024, weed death...

reefman420 · 02-04-2008, 07:56 PM

some pepole have luck with xenia,some dont,some say they like nutrient rich water,maybey u have good clean water,besides the stuff grows like weeds,get some acans instead

ragvette · 02-04-2008, 08:43 PM

What size of tank?

The reason for the question is I had Xenia in 20gal tank that didn't last more then a few days. They opened fine for the first day and never really opened after that, just started shrinking down to nothing. It happened three times and then the fourth time I decided to try them in my 65gal.

The ones in the 65gal tank are going strong (strange since the 20gal tank is older). They are sticking to the base rock that I put them on and are now growing. Got them fairly high in the tank under my 250mh and in heavy water movement. I just need to keep and eye on them so they don't go crazy.

Anyway, I was thinking that a Xenia in the 20gal wasn't agreeing with a coral in the same tank. Just a guess but I was thinking the Leather coral that I had in the 20gal was the one that the Xenia didn't like.

You may want to move them around, since you have three stalks you can try many locations at once and see that helps.

Good Luck!

BigAl07 · 02-04-2008, 09:02 PM

Don't sweat "Xenia" pouting. It does this all the time and for seemingly unknown reasons. I have Xenia in a 10g tank and it's growing like MAD! Actually I am selling it weekly now to the LFS. Sometimes it just seems to wilt and withdraw... even for a day or two! Then it perks up like WILD and grows with a vengeance!! Don't move it around just let it pout unless you see it starting to literally dissolve/melt. Then you can remove it from your tank. Honestly I don't give Xenia much attention and it does GREAT!!

Xtreme1024 · 02-04-2008, 09:44 PM

Ragvette - I have a 54 corner. I just tried to move it to the highest point of the tank, so I will see what happens

BigAl - Thanks for the info, I had Xenia in my 34 and it did great, grew like crazy. At this point I am just going to leave it alone and see what happens.

Varga · 02-04-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefman420

some pepole have luck with xenia,some dont,some say they like nutrient rich water,maybey u have good clean water,besides the stuff grows like weeds,get some acans instead

I agree, mine were doing great while being harassed by 2 clowns. i got a good skimmer and started using RO water, all other corals became super happy, the xenia's declined.

BigAl07 · 02-04-2008, 11:27 PM

I have it in 2 out of 3 tanks and if it's going to survive in your tank it will THRIVE! I don't care where I place it, it thrives.

It lives at the TOP of the tank even partially exposed to air.
It lives at the bottom of the tank partially shaded by rock & a frag tray.
It lives on bare sand.
It lives on rock.
It lives on GLASS.

It's a very nice coral that gives the tank some movement and texture.

framerguy · 02-04-2008, 11:38 PM

Don't get rid of it, even if you think it's completely dead. I had a stalk of Pom Pom that I was 100% sure it was dead. All that was left was a little scrap that looked like chewed up Dentine gum. My wife liked the rock so I left it in the tank. The Xenia came back, one polyp at a time, and now it's is a prolific grower. Don't give up on it, ...ever.

Witfull · 02-05-2008, 02:25 AM

xenia needs good water movement to slough of waste. it also loves lots of light and will grow to it~

Xtreme1024 · 02-05-2008, 04:14 PM

OK I'm not giving up, it just kills me to look at it every day in that condition.

Xtreme1024 · 02-23-2008, 09:29 PM

Well You guys were right as usual!! Just when I thought my Xenia was completely dead, all of the sudden in the last couple of days it sprouted up and is doing great, crazy!! I was ready to toss it, glad I didn't Thanks again!!

JWarren · 02-23-2008, 11:20 PM

They will get tempermental with wide temperature changes as well. Once they get settled in they usually do real well. Also, a good habit to get into is to start all of your new inhabitants out, by placing them at the bottom of the tank and work them up over time, just to rule out the possibility of shocking them with too much light.

Glad they came around for you, I love xenia. I think they are very cool.

CATALYST · 02-24-2008, 12:41 AM

Xenia is my bread and butter. I let it grow on the front and try not to let it spread to the main rock. When it gets thick, I bring it in to the LFS and trade it in on some nice coral or supplies. It's a love hate thing.

BigAl07 · 02-24-2008, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST

Xenia is my bread and butter. I let it grow on the front and try not to let it spread to the main rock. When it gets thick, I bring it in to the LFS and trade it in on some nice coral or supplies. It's a love hate thing.

Same here. I traded several frags of it in the last few weeks to stock my 90g tank

02-04-2008, 07:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xtreme1024 Limpet Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Williamstown, NJ Posts: 145 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Xenia Hi everyone, on Sunday I decided to stop by the LFS and pick up 3 stalks of Xenia. I acclimated Xenia and by the next day it was opening up and doing great. All of the sudden tonight I noticed it wasn't opeing up and was starting to shrink, any idea of what could of caused the sudden decline. All of the other corals are opening as usual and levels are in check. Must be sonmething I am not testing for, but not sure what.

02-04-2008, 07:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
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02-04-2008, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
reefman420 Elegance coral Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minneapolis Posts: 1,085 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia some pepole have luck with xenia,some dont,some say they like nutrient rich water,maybey u have good clean water,besides the stuff grows like weeds,get some acans instead __________________ 155 oceanic bow front,20 long refuge packed with caluerpa and mangroves,40 gallon sump,175lbs LR,3x250 watt xm 10ks,aqua-c remora,and pro-clear 150 skimmers sailfin tang,kole tang,royal gramma,cinnimon clown,2xpink skunk clowns,six line wrasse,mandarin, 155 bow coral-orange montipora cap,superman monti cap,scripps green polyped staghorn,ORA pink poccilipora,ORA blue millipora,green slimer,yellow UK acro,pink birdsnest,armor of god zoas,various zoas and shrooms,hammer,frogspawn,clove polyps,favite,fancey toadstool,reg toadstool,yellow leather,purple leather,devils hand,2 types xenia,ricordea florida,ricordea yuma,kenya tree,galaxia,bubble coral,button polyps inverts are lots of snails and hermits,crocea clam,maxima clam and seabae anemone,rbta

02-04-2008, 08:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
ragvette Ricordea Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Villa, IL Posts: 193 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Xenia What size of tank? The reason for the question is I had Xenia in 20gal tank that didn't last more then a few days. They opened fine for the first day and never really opened after that, just started shrinking down to nothing. It happened three times and then the fourth time I decided to try them in my 65gal. The ones in the 65gal tank are going strong (strange since the 20gal tank is older). They are sticking to the base rock that I put them on and are now growing. Got them fairly high in the tank under my 250mh and in heavy water movement. I just need to keep and eye on them so they don't go crazy. Anyway, I was thinking that a Xenia in the 20gal wasn't agreeing with a coral in the same tank. Just a guess but I was thinking the Leather coral that I had in the 20gal was the one that the Xenia didn't like. You may want to move them around, since you have three stalks you can try many locations at once and see that helps. Good Luck! __________________ -Rodney My 135g Chronicle Reef Store Locator

02-04-2008, 09:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia Don't sweat "Xenia" pouting. It does this all the time and for seemingly unknown reasons. I have Xenia in a 10g tank and it's growing like MAD! Actually I am selling it weekly now to the LFS. Sometimes it just seems to wilt and withdraw... even for a day or two! Then it perks up like WILD and grows with a vengeance!! Don't move it around just let it pout unless you see it starting to literally dissolve/melt. Then you can remove it from your tank. Honestly I don't give Xenia much attention and it does GREAT!! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

02-04-2008, 09:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Xtreme1024 Limpet Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Williamstown, NJ Posts: 145 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia Ragvette - I have a 54 corner. I just tried to move it to the highest point of the tank, so I will see what happens BigAl - Thanks for the info, I had Xenia in my 34 and it did great, grew like crazy. At this point I am just going to leave it alone and see what happens.

02-04-2008, 11:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia I have it in 2 out of 3 tanks and if it's going to survive in your tank it will THRIVE! I don't care where I place it, it thrives. It lives at the TOP of the tank even partially exposed to air. It lives at the bottom of the tank partially shaded by rock & a frag tray. It lives on bare sand. It lives on rock. It lives on GLASS. It's a very nice coral that gives the tank some movement and texture. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

02-04-2008, 11:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia Don't get rid of it, even if you think it's completely dead. I had a stalk of Pom Pom that I was 100% sure it was dead. All that was left was a little scrap that looked like chewed up Dentine gum. My wife liked the rock so I left it in the tank. The Xenia came back, one polyp at a time, and now it's is a prolific grower. Don't give up on it, ...ever. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

02-05-2008, 04:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Xtreme1024 Limpet Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Williamstown, NJ Posts: 145 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia OK I'm not giving up, it just kills me to look at it every day in that condition.

02-23-2008, 09:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Xtreme1024 Limpet Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Williamstown, NJ Posts: 145 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Xenia Well You guys were right as usual!! Just when I thought my Xenia was completely dead, all of the sudden in the last couple of days it sprouted up and is doing great, crazy!! I was ready to toss it, glad I didn't Thanks again!!

02-23-2008, 11:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,426 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Xenia They will get tempermental with wide temperature changes as well. Once they get settled in they usually do real well. Also, a good habit to get into is to start all of your new inhabitants out, by placing them at the bottom of the tank and work them up over time, just to rule out the possibility of shocking them with too much light. Glad they came around for you, I love xenia. I think they are very cool. __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

02-24-2008, 12:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
CATALYST Reef Lobster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,442 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Xenia Xenia is my bread and butter. I let it grow on the front and try not to let it spread to the main rock. When it gets thick, I bring it in to the LFS and trade it in on some nice coral or supplies. It's a love hate thing. __________________ _.:Bonni:._

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