Reef safe?

PEMfish · 02-03-2008, 05:37 PM

I see this question alot. So If you have it, this is the place. I have one to start.
Ceramic tile. I bought a 8" and broke it up. I am using 2 1" pieces for for frag plugs with no ill effect. But what about putting all the tile pieces in the sump?

michael_cb_125 · 02-03-2008, 05:44 PM

The actual ceramic itself should be fine. But the glaze on the surface may cause a problem I am not sure what is in the glaze.
Also ceramic tiles will absorb water. If you went with a color body porcelain tile I think that it may be more "reef safe". These tiles have no glaze and are suitable for outdoor use as they do not absorb water like the ceramic tiles.
Just my thoughts. ~Michael

PEMfish · 02-03-2008, 06:29 PM

I'll have to look out for those.

PEMfish · 02-09-2008, 06:43 PM

What about razor blades? I know you don't leave them in, and they are fine to use on the glass, but...
They come packaged in protectant gel. The gel dose not come off when I try to rinse them. Is it ok or should I wash it off?

PEMfish · 02-15-2008, 11:14 PM

Mighty Putty. It looks, acts, and is packaged very much like our ( reefers ) Hold Fast Epoxy Stick. Is it? Its sold cheaper under the Mighty name. Is it the same? Can it be use by us the same? Google Image Result for http://pet.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pPETS-3760204t400.jpg

Super glue. Its been proven to be safe, but all the brands. All the variations. Witch one exactly do you use with success? I have used it before but forget the exact one and am paranoid.

reefman420 · 02-15-2008, 11:18 PM

all glue is safe,but i use loc-tite brand,easy to use

PEMfish · 02-15-2008, 11:59 PM

Thats what I have now.

lcstorc · 02-16-2008, 11:50 AM

Use the super glue gel. It sets a lot better and is easier to work with.
I don't have any answers on the others except to say that the tiles would be pretty dense so I don't think they would be very good for biological filtration. I do have several frags attached to small pieces and those seem perfectly fine.

PEMfish · 02-16-2008, 11:59 AM

I don't care about filtration with the tiles.

PEMfish · 02-19-2008, 06:56 PM

Mighty putty and...
Vaseline. I'll tell you why once I get a few answers... ( if you don't know, don't say just to find out what I want to use it for. Thanks. )

PEMfish · 03-02-2008, 06:53 PM

panmanmatt · 03-02-2008, 07:00 PM

I wouldn't trust vaseline as it is petroleum based and I would be afraid of it leaching into the tank.

NATIVEVAMAN · 03-02-2008, 07:27 PM

A large number of floor and wall tiles are made from common clay,which is acidic in nature.I dont know if fireing clay locks that acidity in but I wouldnt trust it.

mps9506 · 03-02-2008, 07:50 PM

We use clay pots and ceramic tiles in the clownfish breeder tanks at the university. No ill effects on acidity....

PEMfish · 03-02-2008, 11:38 PM

Hey, by the way, I looked at Menards today, The tile I have is color body porcelain glaze free. Cool. So can I put the pieces in the sump?

Mighty putty would be good to know about...

02-03-2008, 05:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Reef safe? I see this question alot. So If you have it, this is the place. I have one to start. Ceramic tile. I bought a 8" and broke it up. I am using 2 1" pieces for for frag plugs with no ill effect. But what about putting all the tile pieces in the sump? __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

02-03-2008, 05:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Reef safe? The actual ceramic itself should be fine. But the glaze on the surface may cause a problem I am not sure what is in the glaze. Also ceramic tiles will absorb water. If you went with a color body porcelain tile I think that it may be more "reef safe". These tiles have no glaze and are suitable for outdoor use as they do not absorb water like the ceramic tiles. Just my thoughts. ~Michael __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

02-03-2008, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? I'll have to look out for those. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

02-09-2008, 06:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? What about razor blades? I know you don't leave them in, and they are fine to use on the glass, but... They come packaged in protectant gel. The gel dose not come off when I try to rinse them. Is it ok or should I wash it off? __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

02-15-2008, 11:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? Mighty Putty. It looks, acts, and is packaged very much like our ( reefers ) Hold Fast Epoxy Stick. Is it? Its sold cheaper under the Mighty name. Is it the same? Can it be use by us the same? Google Image Result for http://pet.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pPETS-3760204t400.jpg Super glue. Its been proven to be safe, but all the brands. All the variations. Witch one exactly do you use with success? I have used it before but forget the exact one and am paranoid. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

02-15-2008, 11:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
reefman420 Elegance coral Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minneapolis Posts: 1,085 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? all glue is safe,but i use loc-tite brand,easy to use __________________ 155 oceanic bow front,20 long refuge packed with caluerpa and mangroves,40 gallon sump,175lbs LR,3x250 watt xm 10ks,aqua-c remora,and pro-clear 150 skimmers sailfin tang,kole tang,royal gramma,cinnimon clown,2xpink skunk clowns,six line wrasse,mandarin, 155 bow coral-orange montipora cap,superman monti cap,scripps green polyped staghorn,ORA pink poccilipora,ORA blue millipora,green slimer,yellow UK acro,pink birdsnest,armor of god zoas,various zoas and shrooms,hammer,frogspawn,clove polyps,favite,fancey toadstool,reg toadstool,yellow leather,purple leather,devils hand,2 types xenia,ricordea florida,ricordea yuma,kenya tree,galaxia,bubble coral,button polyps inverts are lots of snails and hermits,crocea clam,maxima clam and seabae anemone,rbta

02-15-2008, 11:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? Thats what I have now. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

02-16-2008, 11:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? Use the super glue gel. It sets a lot better and is easier to work with. I don't have any answers on the others except to say that the tiles would be pretty dense so I don't think they would be very good for biological filtration. I do have several frags attached to small pieces and those seem perfectly fine. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

02-16-2008, 11:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? I don't care about filtration with the tiles. __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

02-19-2008, 06:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? Mighty putty and... Vaseline. I'll tell you why once I get a few answers... ( if you don't know, don't say just to find out what I want to use it for. Thanks. ) __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-02-2008, 06:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

03-02-2008, 07:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Reef safe? I wouldn't trust vaseline as it is petroleum based and I would be afraid of it leaching into the tank. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

03-02-2008, 07:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
NATIVEVAMAN Serpent Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond va Posts: 209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Reef safe? A large number of floor and wall tiles are made from common clay,which is acidic in nature.I dont know if fireing clay locks that acidity in but I wouldnt trust it.

03-02-2008, 07:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 8,525 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Reef safe? We use clay pots and ceramic tiles in the clownfish breeder tanks at the university. No ill effects on acidity.... __________________ Mike Reefkeeping Since '99 Help Build Reefpedia Premium Memberships Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

03-02-2008, 11:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
PEMfish Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 3,048 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Reef safe? Hey, by the way, I looked at Menards today, The tile I have is color body porcelain glaze free. Cool. So can I put the pieces in the sump? Mighty putty would be good to know about... __________________ Paul `EM My new 48" reef chronicle; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...chronicle.html My new planted; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-planted.html# Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes. a)Fix the damn problem b)live with it -But absolutely no b*tching

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