whats the deal with buffers?

George771177 · 01-05-2008, 10:44 PM

i have had a tank up for awhile and i think it was starting to get depleated of nutrients and my corals where not looking very good. SO today i added crush coral and did a 15 gal water change on my 55gal. Everything seems to already be reacting and living up to the new water and crushed coral. My question is does any one use a buffer on a daily or monthyly basis? WHo uses buffers? Buffers?

Wolfgang8810 · 01-05-2008, 10:49 PM

i use seachems reef buffer for ph and trace elements. My ph always seems to be getting depleted.

sasquatch · 01-05-2008, 10:50 PM

The “How To” Guide to Reef Aquarium Chemistry for Beginners Part 2: What Chemicals Must be Supplemented by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

have fun, theres lots more when your ready

Dentoid · 01-05-2008, 10:59 PM

Can't beat that. Steve you sure know how to squelch a thread!

kyle1284 · 01-05-2008, 11:04 PM

mag also effects this

sasquatch · 01-05-2008, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dentoid

Can't beat that. Steve you sure know how to squelch a thread!

now Scott, its best to learn the basics correctly, not like I did, I still dont understand why oneaday vitamins cant be used

Dentoid · 01-05-2008, 11:29 PM

Agreed!

DaveK · 01-06-2008, 12:59 AM

My take on the matter is that except for supplementing calcium in a tank with large amounts of corals, you are usually better off not adding any other supplements. Do regular partial water changes, and you'll maintain all the other parameters.

It's not a bad idea to test the newly mixed water, and if the initial parameters way out of wack. If they are you have a poor salt. In that case switch to another brand.

Boomer · 01-15-2008, 01:54 AM

My take on the matter is that except for supplementing calcium in a tank with large amounts of corals, you are usually better off not adding any other supplements.

That is nonsense. When corals grow they use buffer, the Alk. For every 20 ppm Ca++ they take up they take up 1 meq/ l . 2.8 dKH with it. If one was using CaCl2 as a Ca++ sup the Alk would be zero in a ~4 days in a SPS tank. If on the other hand the calcium sup was Kalk then one would get both Ca++ and buffer from the Kalk THEN you may be able to say you are usually better off not adding any other supplements. if an only if the kalk gives the daily requirements of both of them, which is rarely the case, as the Alk is used up in many other chemical reactions.

If they are you have a poor salt

This is not so either. Initial parameters we can test for does not define if a salt is poor or not only a full assay does. Just because a salt is low, say in Ca++ or Alk, does not make it a poor salt. What ever salt works best for one is the one to use.

Do regular partial water changes, and you'll maintain all the other parameters.

I wish more would listen to and do more of this

01-05-2008, 10:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
George771177 Scopas Tang Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: indiana Posts: 430 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	whats the deal with buffers? i have had a tank up for awhile and i think it was starting to get depleated of nutrients and my corals where not looking very good. SO today i added crush coral and did a 15 gal water change on my 55gal. Everything seems to already be reacting and living up to the new water and crushed coral. My question is does any one use a buffer on a daily or monthyly basis? WHo uses buffers? Buffers?

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Wolfgang8810 Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 935 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: whats the deal with buffers? i use seachems reef buffer for ph and trace elements. My ph always seems to be getting depleted. __________________ I love fish! Fish.. fish.. fish!

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sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: whats the deal with buffers? The “How To” Guide to Reef Aquarium Chemistry for Beginners Part 2: What Chemicals Must be Supplemented by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com have fun, theres lots more when your ready

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kyle1284 Elegance coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,061 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: whats the deal with buffers? mag also effects this __________________ KYLE 75 Gal 110 Lbs Live Rock 40 Lbs of live sand Equiptment:48 Inch 4x54 T-5 true blue and 10000k lights, 2 fuvual 305 Canister Filters Mis. Mushrooms, Fan Worms, hammer coral, frog spawn, candy cane, A TON OF TRUMPET CORAL!! orange plating monti, some kind of branching monti, pom pom xeina, all kinds of zoos BRIGHT GREEN star polyps, xeina, neon green toadstool, 3 damn damsles, a foxface and a blue tang. November 1...The begining! http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../random045.jpg November 8,2008 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ristina034.jpg My 75 GALLON BAR TOP REEF TANK! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...n-bar-top.html

01-06-2008, 12:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
DaveK Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelpahia, PA Posts: 1,357 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: whats the deal with buffers? My take on the matter is that except for supplementing calcium in a tank with large amounts of corals, you are usually better off not adding any other supplements. Do regular partial water changes, and you'll maintain all the other parameters. It's not a bad idea to test the newly mixed water, and if the initial parameters way out of wack. If they are you have a poor salt. In that case switch to another brand.

01-15-2008, 01:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,608 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: whats the deal with buffers? My take on the matter is that except for supplementing calcium in a tank with large amounts of corals, you are usually better off not adding any other supplements. That is nonsense. When corals grow they use buffer, the Alk. For every 20 ppm Ca++ they take up they take up 1 meq/ l . 2.8 dKH with it. If one was using CaCl2 as a Ca++ sup the Alk would be zero in a ~4 days in a SPS tank. If on the other hand the calcium sup was Kalk then one would get both Ca++ and buffer from the Kalk THEN you may be able to say you are usually better off not adding any other supplements. if an only if the kalk gives the daily requirements of both of them, which is rarely the case, as the Alk is used up in many other chemical reactions. If they are you have a poor salt This is not so either. Initial parameters we can test for does not define if a salt is poor or not only a full assay does. Just because a salt is low, say in Ca++ or Alk, does not make it a poor salt. What ever salt works best for one is the one to use. Do regular partial water changes, and you'll maintain all the other parameters. I wish more would listen to and do more of this __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

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