Flower Pot feeding?

gotboost15psi · 12-04-2007, 09:25 PM

Hey guys.... Just purchased 2 flower tops today at LFS. Going to give them a shot in my 20 gallon now that I have metal halide. However im alittle concerened about feeding. I was told at my LFS i would need to feed them phyto couple times a week so they can thrive. How exactly would you know they are feeding? Would they do something else to feed rather than extending their polyps?

Melev · 12-04-2007, 09:30 PM

Actually, they need meatier food that phyto (which is an aglae). Frozen (thawed) cyclop-eeze would work. Using a small pipette or turkeybaster, squirt the food gently at each polyp and they will close up and fold up as they eat.

However, your tank is quite small and it won't take much to pollute your system with too much food. Do you have a good protein skimmer on the system?

BigAl07 · 12-04-2007, 09:33 PM

He's right. The smaller the system the less likely it's able to handle over-feeding which is a characteristic of this type of feeding. Protein Skimmer will go a long way to help but it will not CURE over-feeding. Good luck and take some pics

gotboost15psi · 12-04-2007, 09:33 PM

I dont have a protien skimmer at all. I thought about getting one while entering the hobby but my LFS told me I dont need one with a 20 gallon setup. The flowerpot looks actually small to take in big chucks of food that size.

Melev · 12-04-2007, 09:39 PM

Is your flowerpot open, or closed up?

Cyclop Eeze is copepod-sized food, since it is mainly copepods. Tiny dots. It is sold frozen.

I disagree with the LFS saying you don't need a protein skimmer. It helps the tank, and it really helps those new to the hobby. I would try to find a used Aqua C Remora protein skimmer with a Maxijet 1200. That would work great on that sized tank. I ran one on my 29g for several years.

In the meantime, I would recommend 5g water changes every week. Here's my article that came out last month:
How to Change Water in Your Reef Aquarium by Marc Levenson - Reefkeeping.com

Melev · 12-04-2007, 09:39 PM

Btw, I love how RS changes the link to something readable. NEAT!

gotboost15psi · 12-04-2007, 09:43 PM

im loading the pics to photobucket..will post in a sec.

gotboost15psi · 12-04-2007, 09:48 PM

Both pots opened up after about an hour after they were put in the tank. There is a portion of the yellow pot that died so the LFS sold the pot for 10 bucks to me. Hopfully it will grow back...

goldenmean · 12-04-2007, 09:53 PM

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goniopora-longevity
In this thread you will find a link to this most helpful goniopora website
Goniopora.org:::Goniopora Reference Web Site

tbittner · 12-04-2007, 10:08 PM

I don't suppose the flower pot could be removed and placed into a bowl of tank water, fed, then put back into the tank? I've read of people doing that with sun corals...

(this is a question for someone else to answer, I'm just asking

)

gotboost15psi · 12-04-2007, 10:11 PM

wel sun corals dont need light at all to survive...they need to be feed to live. I could be wrong but this is what i have read.

tbittner · 12-04-2007, 10:16 PM

I was thinking along the lines of a way to feed the flower pot without polluting your tank. I don't know if that is possible or not.

gotboost15psi · 12-04-2007, 10:58 PM

Do flower pots do well in the deep spectrum of the reef or in shallow depths of water?

goldenmean · 12-04-2007, 11:17 PM

Goniopora Acclimation

Triggerjay · 12-05-2007, 11:17 AM

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but the top photo, is a bleached out goni. John Kelly's site will explain proper feeding, and lighting requirements. Keep them LOW in the tank. The best way I can explain Goni's, is they are more a pet than a coral. They require lots of target feeding, and extra care that you would not normally do to a coral. Read up on his site. There is a TON of great info. I would also reccomend a skimmer, and would actually consider it a must! Don't get suckered into a sea-clone though. For a 20g I would prob go with an aqua remora-C hang on unit.

Just my .02

Jason

12-04-2007, 09:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
gotboost15psi Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 88 View Gallery Karma Komment	Flower Pot feeding? Hey guys.... Just purchased 2 flower tops today at LFS. Going to give them a shot in my 20 gallon now that I have metal halide. However im alittle concerened about feeding. I was told at my LFS i would need to feed them phyto couple times a week so they can thrive. How exactly would you know they are feeding? Would they do something else to feed rather than extending their polyps?

12-04-2007, 09:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Melev Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 249 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? Actually, they need meatier food that phyto (which is an aglae). Frozen (thawed) cyclop-eeze would work. Using a small pipette or turkeybaster, squirt the food gently at each polyp and they will close up and fold up as they eat. However, your tank is quite small and it won't take much to pollute your system with too much food. Do you have a good protein skimmer on the system? __________________ Visit Melev's Reef 280g Starfire reef with all the essential equipment.

12-04-2007, 09:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
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12-04-2007, 09:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
gotboost15psi Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 88 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? I dont have a protien skimmer at all. I thought about getting one while entering the hobby but my LFS told me I dont need one with a 20 gallon setup. The flowerpot looks actually small to take in big chucks of food that size.

12-04-2007, 09:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Melev Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 249 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? Is your flowerpot open, or closed up? Cyclop Eeze is copepod-sized food, since it is mainly copepods. Tiny dots. It is sold frozen. I disagree with the LFS saying you don't need a protein skimmer. It helps the tank, and it really helps those new to the hobby. I would try to find a used Aqua C Remora protein skimmer with a Maxijet 1200. That would work great on that sized tank. I ran one on my 29g for several years. In the meantime, I would recommend 5g water changes every week. Here's my article that came out last month: How to Change Water in Your Reef Aquarium by Marc Levenson - Reefkeeping.com __________________ Visit Melev's Reef 280g Starfire reef with all the essential equipment.

12-04-2007, 09:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Melev Pistol Shrimp Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 249 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? Btw, I love how RS changes the link to something readable. NEAT! __________________ Visit Melev's Reef 280g Starfire reef with all the essential equipment.

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12-04-2007, 09:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
gotboost15psi Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 88 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? Both pots opened up after about an hour after they were put in the tank. There is a portion of the yellow pot that died so the LFS sold the pot for 10 bucks to me. Hopfully it will grow back...

12-04-2007, 10:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,563 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Flower Pot feeding? I don't suppose the flower pot could be removed and placed into a bowl of tank water, fed, then put back into the tank? I've read of people doing that with sun corals... (this is a question for someone else to answer, I'm just asking ) __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

12-04-2007, 10:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
gotboost15psi Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 88 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? wel sun corals dont need light at all to survive...they need to be feed to live. I could be wrong but this is what i have read.

12-04-2007, 10:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,563 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Flower Pot feeding? I was thinking along the lines of a way to feed the flower pot without polluting your tank. I don't know if that is possible or not. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

12-04-2007, 10:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
gotboost15psi Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 88 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Flower Pot feeding? Do flower pots do well in the deep spectrum of the reef or in shallow depths of water?

12-05-2007, 11:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Triggerjay Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 2,071 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Flower Pot feeding? I hate to be the one to tell you this, but the top photo, is a bleached out goni. John Kelly's site will explain proper feeding, and lighting requirements. Keep them LOW in the tank. The best way I can explain Goni's, is they are more a pet than a coral. They require lots of target feeding, and extra care that you would not normally do to a coral. Read up on his site. There is a TON of great info. I would also reccomend a skimmer, and would actually consider it a must! Don't get suckered into a sea-clone though. For a 20g I would prob go with an aqua remora-C hang on unit. Just my .02 Jason __________________ The start of my journey: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...xperience.html My current journey: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ld-thread.html My clownfish breeding log: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ne-fishes.html

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