Hypothermia - Reef keeping - 911

Playa · 02-22-2004, 08:07 PM

Round 2 of stupidity

I have not really moved any live rock in my reef in many weeks(I added a rock 3 weeks ago). I got 3 new corals on wednesday. last might I decided to find the best place for them to grow. I started at about 5:00 p.m.

At 9:30 p.m. I was still making moves and by now I was feeling a little nausea and I was feeling cold. I felt like I could not think straight there for a moment. I thought since I was pretty happy with my work, I could finish a little later or maybe I try to finish tomorrow.

Went to my computer and tried to read threads on RC and RS and I felt encreasingly cold. I am by now literally shaking. AC is turned off, wet sucks are off and I quickly turn to my bed to cover myself with 2 blankets and the conforter. In vain I kept rubbing my frozen hands and feet and I could play a tune with my teeth. I felt my temperature rise, since my head felt on fire. My bones started to ache and I felt just as cold as 30 minutes earlier.

At this time I started to think on who I could call that could tell me if I need it to go to the emergency room or to take different measures. My head not thinking very clear just decided to wait for my wife to arrive from work. She is home a few minutes later, thank God(time was passing by so slow while I felt I was inside an Igloo).

She took my temperature and it registered 101, did this 3 times to make sure the thermometer was in working order. We have no gloves here in Florida, so she gave me a pair of socks for my hands and 2 pairs for my feet, a sweater and a jacket. Moving was painful.

After a bowl of hot soup, 2 Ibuprofens, more blankets, some carbos and some tender loving care I started getting warmer and regaining energy and desire to think.

It was not a fun episode.

What caused this? possibly a combination of several things. Wetness from having my right arm under water for so many hours, my feet being wet and stand on the cold tyle at times, no breakfast, no lunch, a little snack(junk), a history of Bronquitis, mild case of Asthma and Sinusitis in the last 2 months(taking antibiotics up until last week).

Today at work I felt misserable all day, I feel a little better now:-)

Just a little story that might help someone some day:-)

Luis

SunnyX · 02-22-2004, 08:11 PM

The trials of reefing.......

Maxx · 02-22-2004, 08:13 PM

This doesnt sound like hypothermia Luis. You wouldnt feel nausea from hypothermia. Its likely you have a cold or the flu and you are suffering from hot/cold spells....might want to see the Dr in the morning.
Nick

NaH2O · 02-22-2004, 08:20 PM

I agree, Nick. Playa, with everything you had going on (the bronchitis, sinusitis, mild asthma) I would give your Dr. a call at least.

Playa · 02-22-2004, 08:30 PM

Thanx guys. I am actually under medication still, stop with antibiotics, but still taking singulair and using Nasacort. I was on Antibiotics for 30 days(2 horse size pills in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m.)

This was not a normal cold body temperature, I was literally freezing to death. Numbness on the tip of my right thumb came back. My little finger and ring finger from my left have been numb since the Zoanthid meal and were more evident during this ordeal.

As far as nausea, maybe I used the wrong word Nick. I did not vomit, nore was I real close to do it. My stomach felt very bad and I could feel loss of energy at an alarming rate.

I actually painted a normal story here cause I did not want anyone to feel sorry for me, but it was a nasty situation last night(trust me)

Luis

Witfull · 02-22-2004, 09:45 PM

question is,,did you finish the tank?...or did your wife jump in and do it for ya?

sounds like you got a chill and your body was shivering to get warm...or you ate something bad. bad food will give you the chills and mild nausea....also that since you have been taking antibiotics, your system isnt totally able to digest food well.... try eating some yogurt...or got the drug store and get some Asidopholous.

reefshadow · 02-22-2004, 10:11 PM

You probably picked up a nasty virus somewhere, Luis, and mucking around in your tank didn't help. Keep up w/ the ibuprofen, LOTS of fluids and sleep. If you continue with a temp for more than 2 days or it spikes up really high get to your doc.

Good tip on the yogurt, Wit. Those antibiotics can do a number on the digestive system.

Hope you feel better soon!!!!!!!

-Becca

sambot · 02-22-2004, 11:00 PM

We'll pray for a rapid recovery. Get some rest.

CAT · 02-22-2004, 11:11 PM

Were you wearing gloves when working in the tank for so long? If not, what type of corals were you handling? maybe one of them objected to being messed with...

dgasmd · 02-22-2004, 11:53 PM

Playa:

This is a clear case of acropiritis. The inmediate remedy for it is to frag your nicest corals at once and ship them to me. There was a good study plubished recently in the American Journal of fragology that clearly shows the effects of the malady over time. Very interesting disease.

Now, I am a doctor, so this is clearly my professional opinion.

Maxx · 02-23-2004, 12:12 AM

lol........
Quack......I got first dibs...

Nick

NaH2O · 02-23-2004, 01:30 AM

Luis, it may be something to take into consideration. Since your first bout with zoanthids, it could be possible that you are getting more sensitive to certain corals. Curt has scars on his arms from corals touching his skin. I wonder if your arms were in the tank water too long without protection? Just throwing out some thoughts.

LOL, Alberto!! Karma

Brucey · 02-23-2004, 06:01 AM

Hey Playa ..... it sounds miserable. Hope your feeling better matey
Brucey

Gina · 02-23-2004, 06:49 AM

I would call the DR. this morning! Just to be sure.
I hope you feel better soon! Keep us posted!

nigle · 02-23-2004, 07:34 PM

Oi!

#$%$#%# NaH2O I WANTED TO SAY ZOANTHIDS!!!!!!!!!!! You beat me to the type, %#$^^$#, HA!

Actually if you do have Zoos and your hand/arm was in the tank that long you could have had a reaction, not to mention a 'saltwater' reaction, don't laugh, it DOES happen.

I was 'playing' around with my frist tank a 5 gal, and it had a very large 'seamat' zoo in it. I was 'aquascaping' for about an hour. After I was done I started to notice that my right arm, [the one that was in the tank for most of the time {and for about 10 minutes was holding the zoo off the rocks while I was playing with the rocks}] started to go numb, YES I GOT IT!!! I was numb for about a day afterwards and it was about a week after that I read about the neurotoxin. The only thing I could figure out was that I indeed did get it. There are other 'lesser' toxins that are in the tanks as we know, so if you were 'swimming' for as long as you were and were comming down with something too, that could have caused it.

Cheers!
nigle
!~!

02-22-2004, 08:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Playa Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,451 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hypothermia - Reef keeping - 911 Round 2 of stupidity I have not really moved any live rock in my reef in many weeks(I added a rock 3 weeks ago). I got 3 new corals on wednesday. last might I decided to find the best place for them to grow. I started at about 5:00 p.m. At 9:30 p.m. I was still making moves and by now I was feeling a little nausea and I was feeling cold. I felt like I could not think straight there for a moment. I thought since I was pretty happy with my work, I could finish a little later or maybe I try to finish tomorrow. Went to my computer and tried to read threads on RC and RS and I felt encreasingly cold. I am by now literally shaking. AC is turned off, wet sucks are off and I quickly turn to my bed to cover myself with 2 blankets and the conforter. In vain I kept rubbing my frozen hands and feet and I could play a tune with my teeth. I felt my temperature rise, since my head felt on fire. My bones started to ache and I felt just as cold as 30 minutes earlier. At this time I started to think on who I could call that could tell me if I need it to go to the emergency room or to take different measures. My head not thinking very clear just decided to wait for my wife to arrive from work. She is home a few minutes later, thank God(time was passing by so slow while I felt I was inside an Igloo). She took my temperature and it registered 101, did this 3 times to make sure the thermometer was in working order. We have no gloves here in Florida, so she gave me a pair of socks for my hands and 2 pairs for my feet, a sweater and a jacket. Moving was painful. After a bowl of hot soup, 2 Ibuprofens, more blankets, some carbos and some tender loving care I started getting warmer and regaining energy and desire to think. It was not a fun episode. What caused this? possibly a combination of several things. Wetness from having my right arm under water for so many hours, my feet being wet and stand on the cold tyle at times, no breakfast, no lunch, a little snack(junk), a history of Bronquitis, mild case of Asthma and Sinusitis in the last 2 months(taking antibiotics up until last week). Today at work I felt misserable all day, I feel a little better now:-) Just a little story that might help someone some day:-) Luis

02-22-2004, 08:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
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02-22-2004, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,080 View Gallery Karma Komment	This doesnt sound like hypothermia Luis. You wouldnt feel nausea from hypothermia. Its likely you have a cold or the flu and you are suffering from hot/cold spells....might want to see the Dr in the morning. Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

02-22-2004, 08:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,929 View Gallery Karma Komment	I agree, Nick. Playa, with everything you had going on (the bronchitis, sinusitis, mild asthma) I would give your Dr. a call at least. __________________ ~Nikki~

02-22-2004, 10:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
reefshadow Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: washington Posts: 196 View Gallery Karma Komment	You probably picked up a nasty virus somewhere, Luis, and mucking around in your tank didn't help. Keep up w/ the ibuprofen, LOTS of fluids and sleep. If you continue with a temp for more than 2 days or it spikes up really high get to your doc. Good tip on the yogurt, Wit. Those antibiotics can do a number on the digestive system. Hope you feel better soon!!!!!!! -Becca __________________ 240 gallon glass mixed reef 2x 250 watt m.h., 2x 175 watt m.h., 3x 110 watt vho's. 55 gallon propagation tank, 2x 96 watt pc's Empty 125 gallon tank reefer girrrl!

02-22-2004, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Playa Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 1,451 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanx guys. I am actually under medication still, stop with antibiotics, but still taking singulair and using Nasacort. I was on Antibiotics for 30 days(2 horse size pills in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m.) This was not a normal cold body temperature, I was literally freezing to death. Numbness on the tip of my right thumb came back. My little finger and ring finger from my left have been numb since the Zoanthid meal and were more evident during this ordeal. As far as nausea, maybe I used the wrong word Nick. I did not vomit, nore was I real close to do it. My stomach felt very bad and I could feel loss of energy at an alarming rate. I actually painted a normal story here cause I did not want anyone to feel sorry for me, but it was a nasty situation last night(trust me) Luis

02-22-2004, 11:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
sambot Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	We'll pray for a rapid recovery. Get some rest.

02-22-2004, 11:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
CAT Limpet Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 133 View Gallery Karma Komment	Were you wearing gloves when working in the tank for so long? If not, what type of corals were you handling? maybe one of them objected to being messed with... __________________ Don't take life too seriously; Nobody gets out alive. Tank: 40 gal Oceanic stretch hex with 15 gal fuge. LPS, softies.

02-22-2004, 11:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
dgasmd Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 466 View Gallery Karma Komment	Playa: This is a clear case of acropiritis. The inmediate remedy for it is to frag your nicest corals at once and ship them to me. There was a good study plubished recently in the American Journal of fragology that clearly shows the effects of the malady over time. Very interesting disease. Now, I am a doctor, so this is clearly my professional opinion. __________________ Water is what keeps a ship floating, but it is also what sinks it.

02-23-2004, 12:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,080 View Gallery Karma Komment	lol........ Quack......I got first dibs... Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

02-23-2004, 01:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,929 View Gallery Karma Komment	Luis, it may be something to take into consideration. Since your first bout with zoanthids, it could be possible that you are getting more sensitive to certain corals. Curt has scars on his arms from corals touching his skin. I wonder if your arms were in the tank water too long without protection? Just throwing out some thoughts. LOL, Alberto!! Karma __________________ ~Nikki~

02-23-2004, 06:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hey Playa ..... it sounds miserable. Hope your feeling better matey Brucey __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

02-23-2004, 06:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Gina Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,842 View Gallery Karma Komment	I would call the DR. this morning! Just to be sure. I hope you feel better soon! Keep us posted! __________________ Gina and Mark's 75 Visit Our Sponsors Gina's Cube Gina

02-23-2004, 07:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
nigle Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gary, Indiana Posts: 292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Oi! #$%$#%# NaH2O I WANTED TO SAY ZOANTHIDS!!!!!!!!!!! You beat me to the type, %#$^^$#, HA! Actually if you do have Zoos and your hand/arm was in the tank that long you could have had a reaction, not to mention a 'saltwater' reaction, don't laugh, it DOES happen. I was 'playing' around with my frist tank a 5 gal, and it had a very large 'seamat' zoo in it. I was 'aquascaping' for about an hour. After I was done I started to notice that my right arm, [the one that was in the tank for most of the time {and for about 10 minutes was holding the zoo off the rocks while I was playing with the rocks}] started to go numb, YES I GOT IT!!! I was numb for about a day afterwards and it was about a week after that I read about the neurotoxin. The only thing I could figure out was that I indeed did get it. There are other 'lesser' toxins that are in the tanks as we know, so if you were 'swimming' for as long as you were and were comming down with something too, that could have caused it. Cheers! nigle !~!

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