Lighting

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 03:57 PM

Im have been doing so much ready that I think Im going to be sick. I dont know what I want to put over my new 240. I like the Solaris. But I like the look of the good ole MHs as well. What should I do?
Also IF I were to go with MHs how many would I need?
What is considered ENOUGH for acro growth and coloration.
Here is a tank with three 250s and four 80 watt T5s it looks really good, but whats the secret. Thats not even 5 watts per gallon.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...totm/index.php

I NEED some help.

Booze, Olivert, Cheeks, JAK, Dent, Dr.Hank, Woody, I NEED the experts, and anyone else who can help.

mps9506 · 11-07-2007, 03:58 PM

What are the dimensions you are looking at?

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 03:59 PM

My tank is 240 gallons. 72" long 24" wide 30" deep

72 inch Giesemann Moonlight Infiniti 3x250W HQI + 4x80W T5 Light Fixture - Black (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Fixtures > Metal Halide > 72in Units > Double Ended MH > MH With T5 )

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 03:59 PM

I want a bright tank!

mps9506 · 11-07-2007, 04:03 PM

I think you will like the Geissman fixture.
That should be plenty of light output, you might not be growing acros on the bottom of that 30" deep tank, but it would be plenty for most of the water column.

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 04:08 PM

I want to have LPS on the bottom, Montis, stylos, etc. in the middle and acros and such middle to upper.

mps9506 · 11-07-2007, 04:13 PM

Yeah, that would do the job for sure.
I doubt you would be very happy with the light output of the solaris lighting. I haven't seen their newer fixtures yet, but I would save those for smaller tanks for the moment.

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 04:19 PM

Should I go with 400 watt MHs or will the 250s be fine?
I am begining to believe that the solaris will not be bright enough. But I was trying to avoid a chiller. Aw Well.
Are their any systems or components that you would recomend?

BigAl07 · 11-07-2007, 04:42 PM

Bright enough? Oh I think you'll be very disappointed long term if you don't go with the LED's. Ask Jack.. he has them set up on a couple of tanks. He'll be up front and honest about it.

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 04:50 PM

Gah I really want the soalris, but I dont know where I can go to see one.

lcstorc · 11-07-2007, 05:16 PM

You should have gone to MACNA. They had them set up there and I was very impressed. The new version is supposed to be even better.
Do you have to order now? Dentoid should be getting his very soon.

michael_cb_125 · 11-07-2007, 05:22 PM

No I am getting it for Christmas. My tank wont be ready for any live stock for a few months anyways.

mps9506 · 11-07-2007, 06:36 PM

I'm sure you have already read this but
Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine - Product Review: A New Horizon in Lighting: PFO's Solaris LED System
of course this doesn't have info on the newer fixtures. I'm also not sure if dana was comparing to single ended or DE bulbs. Bulb brand and type of ballast will make a big difference on light output.
Again having not seen or played with the newer fixtures from PFO I don't really know if they would be sufficient for a 30" deep tank. But having used 250 watt DE lamps I'm sure you will be happy with those

BigAl07 · 11-07-2007, 10:48 PM

Here is an un-involved third party who you can contact and ask for further details.
More led lighting

AQTCJAK · 11-07-2007, 11:09 PM

Michael am I understanding you like the white look of the MH if that is it the I Series has that I will take a picture of the I Series & the H Series both 72" & 400 Watt the I Series is 15,000K & The H Series is 20,000K for a comparison for you. I will not use photo shop to enhance either of them I will use it just to be able to post it is that a fair option?

11-07-2007, 03:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Lighting Im have been doing so much ready that I think Im going to be sick. I dont know what I want to put over my new 240. I like the Solaris. But I like the look of the good ole MHs as well. What should I do? Also IF I were to go with MHs how many would I need? What is considered ENOUGH for acro growth and coloration. Here is a tank with three 250s and four 80 watt T5s it looks really good, but whats the secret. Thats not even 5 watts per gallon. http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...totm/index.php I NEED some help. Booze, Olivert, Cheeks, JAK, Dent, Dr.Hank, Woody, I NEED the experts, and anyone else who can help. __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting What are the dimensions you are looking at? __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

11-07-2007, 03:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting My tank is 240 gallons. 72" long 24" wide 30" deep 72 inch Giesemann Moonlight Infiniti 3x250W HQI + 4x80W T5 Light Fixture - Black (Saltwater Aquarium Supplies > Lighting > Fixtures > Metal Halide > 72in Units > Double Ended MH > MH With T5 ) __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 03:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting I want a bright tank! __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 04:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting I think you will like the Geissman fixture. That should be plenty of light output, you might not be growing acros on the bottom of that 30" deep tank, but it would be plenty for most of the water column. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

11-07-2007, 04:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting I want to have LPS on the bottom, Montis, stylos, etc. in the middle and acros and such middle to upper. __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 04:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting Yeah, that would do the job for sure. I doubt you would be very happy with the light output of the solaris lighting. I haven't seen their newer fixtures yet, but I would save those for smaller tanks for the moment. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

11-07-2007, 04:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting Should I go with 400 watt MHs or will the 250s be fine? I am begining to believe that the solaris will not be bright enough. But I was trying to avoid a chiller. Aw Well. Are their any systems or components that you would recomend? __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 04:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,606 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lighting Bright enough? Oh I think you'll be very disappointed long term if you don't go with the LED's. Ask Jack.. he has them set up on a couple of tanks. He'll be up front and honest about it. __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-07-2007, 04:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting Gah I really want the soalris, but I dont know where I can go to see one. __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 05:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,766 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lighting You should have gone to MACNA. They had them set up there and I was very impressed. The new version is supposed to be even better. Do you have to order now? Dentoid should be getting his very soon. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

11-07-2007, 05:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,539 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting No I am getting it for Christmas. My tank wont be ready for any live stock for a few months anyways. __________________ Owner of an Elos System 70 Now I have a jealous girlfriend!!! HaHa

11-07-2007, 06:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting I'm sure you have already read this but Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine - Product Review: A New Horizon in Lighting: PFO's Solaris LED System of course this doesn't have info on the newer fixtures. I'm also not sure if dana was comparing to single ended or DE bulbs. Bulb brand and type of ballast will make a big difference on light output. Again having not seen or played with the newer fixtures from PFO I don't really know if they would be sufficient for a 30" deep tank. But having used 250 watt DE lamps I'm sure you will be happy with those __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

11-07-2007, 10:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,606 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lighting Here is an un-involved third party who you can contact and ask for further details. More led lighting __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

11-07-2007, 11:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,213 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Lighting Michael am I understanding you like the white look of the MH if that is it the I Series has that I will take a picture of the I Series & the H Series both 72" & 400 Watt the I Series is 15,000K & The H Series is 20,000K for a comparison for you. I will not use photo shop to enhance either of them I will use it just to be able to post it is that a fair option? __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com Projects & Chronicels http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...car-buffs.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nts-tanks.html

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