Lighting - Page 2

michael_cb_125 · 11-08-2007, 07:58 AM

Yeah Id appreciate that Jack. I really do need to see the difference. Plus I want to be 100% positive that the Solaris will not only make my corals look good, but also I want them to grow fast and well, like they are under my MH.
Do you honestly think that they will?

BigAl07 · 11-08-2007, 08:23 AM

Mike,
some threads I've been reading suggest that initially the Solaris will grow at least as well as MH but where it really SHINES ( I couldn'te resist) is after a few months. Your MH bulbs are continually shifting ever so slightly in spectrum (it's not a sudden shift over night) getting closer and closer to being outside of the optimal spectrum. That's why we change MH bulbs well before they are actually "broken/not working". The LEDS don't shift in that manner.They are more of a either On or OFF type item and where your MH is AWESOME after they are broken-in they are also slowly shifting and degrading where-as the LEDS are rock solid for YEARS to come.

Now for me to just sit back and wait for the LED companies to start PAYING me for this Info-mercial

michael_cb_125 · 11-08-2007, 08:57 AM

Yeah no matter how many MH systems I look at, I still go back to the LED. Gah, I wish I woulud have never seen it.LOL
Pics Pics Pics Jack

Frankie · 11-08-2007, 09:42 AM

I to would like to see the difference. Tagging along here.

mps9506 · 11-08-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

Mike,
some threads I've been reading suggest that initially the Solaris will grow at least as well as MH but where it really SHINES ( I couldn'te resist) is after a few months. Your MH bulbs are continually shifting ever so slightly in spectrum (it's not a sudden shift over night) getting closer and closer to being outside of the optimal spectrum. That's why we change MH bulbs well before they are actually "broken/not working". The LEDS don't shift in that manner.They are more of a either On or OFF type item and where your MH is AWESOME after they are broken-in they are also slowly shifting and degrading where-as the LEDS are rock solid for YEARS to come.

Now for me to just sit back and wait for the LED companies to start PAYING me for this Info-mercial

Cool. I always burn my MH bulbs in for a week before using them over my tanks. The cost factor is a big one to me because running radiums on the HQI ballasts is so ineffecient. Have to replace the bulbs every 6 months or so.

I guess I need to do some more searching. I would still like to see numbers on the PFO 400 watt equivalent I series. The output on the G series just wasnt' enough to tempt me for larger tanks.

michael_cb_125 · 11-08-2007, 10:27 AM

I have been told by several people that the new system will be fine over a 240. You can keep SPS up to 18 inches away from the surface. and LPS a good bit deeper.

fish wilson · 11-08-2007, 10:44 AM

right now your paying for the tec, the prices will come down but they are having prob,s with the systems right now. thanks fish

mps9506 · 11-08-2007, 10:51 AM

Well the 72" I4 isn't THAT much more than a Geismann

Looks like pretty much same functionality in the controllers for them as well.

BigAl07 · 11-08-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by michael_cb_125

Thats not even 5 watts per gallon.

Really and truely once you get away from "beginner" set ups and have some understanding of slightly more "advanced" corals you really need to throw the whole "Watts per Gallon" rule out the window. That's just a VERY generic rule of thumb which over simplifies lighting for someone very new. For example my home tank has 16.25 watts per gallon which in simplistic terms SHOULD mean I am frying everything in the room let alone the tank. But it's only PC lights so in reality it's only medium lighting. If I went with a 70w HQI pendant I would be "down" to 8.75 watts per gallon but it's MH as opposed to PC and in the big scheme night and day.

You're WAY beyond the whole watts per gallon stage so you need to focus on intensity vs spectrum vs coverage vs aesthetics. You're in the BIG Leagues now buddy.

mps9506 · 11-08-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

You're WAY beyond the whole watts per gallon stage so you need to focus on intensity vs spectrum vs coverage vs aesthetics. You're in the BIG Leagues now buddy.

Couldn't say it better myself

michael_cb_125 · 11-08-2007, 11:18 AM

I dont go by the watts per gallon, but it kinda gives me an idea.
I dont really think that I am in the big leagues, just in the big tank division.LOL
I need to get me one of them fancy pants, loght-o-meters.LOL

BigAl07 · 11-08-2007, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_cb_125

I need to get me one of them fancy pants, loght-o-meters.LOL

Yeah one of those!!

but trust me... if this tank goes up like planned it will be in running for "Big League" compared to most of the rest of us.

michael_cb_125 · 11-08-2007, 11:31 AM

So Jack, Pictures?
Sorry Im just anxious to see the difference.

BigAl07 · 11-08-2007, 11:34 AM

Jack's probably still in bed because he's on PST and I think he said something about Jury Duty.

michael_cb_125 · 11-08-2007, 11:51 AM

How many hours behind?
Gah Wake up.

LOL

11-08-2007, 07:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 4,304 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting Yeah Id appreciate that Jack. I really do need to see the difference. Plus I want to be 100% positive that the Solaris will not only make my corals look good, but also I want them to grow fast and well, like they are under my MH. Do you honestly think that they will? __________________ Michael's Elos Powered Angel Reef Megan's Elos Powered tank of Greatness. Under construction: Michael's New Bedroom Tank A house is only a home when it shelters a BSJF. I am currently homeless ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

11-08-2007, 08:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 4,304 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting Yeah no matter how many MH systems I look at, I still go back to the LED. Gah, I wish I woulud have never seen it.LOL Pics Pics Pics Jack __________________ Michael's Elos Powered Angel Reef Megan's Elos Powered tank of Greatness. Under construction: Michael's New Bedroom Tank A house is only a home when it shelters a BSJF. I am currently homeless ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

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11-08-2007, 10:27 AM	#21 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 4,304 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting I have been told by several people that the new system will be fine over a 240. You can keep SPS up to 18 inches away from the surface. and LPS a good bit deeper. __________________ Michael's Elos Powered Angel Reef Megan's Elos Powered tank of Greatness. Under construction: Michael's New Bedroom Tank A house is only a home when it shelters a BSJF. I am currently homeless ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

11-08-2007, 10:44 AM	#22 (permalink)
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mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting Well the 72" I4 isn't THAT much more than a Geismann Looks like pretty much same functionality in the controllers for them as well. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

11-08-2007, 11:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 4,304 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting I dont go by the watts per gallon, but it kinda gives me an idea. I dont really think that I am in the big leagues, just in the big tank division.LOL I need to get me one of them fancy pants, loght-o-meters.LOL __________________ Michael's Elos Powered Angel Reef Megan's Elos Powered tank of Greatness. Under construction: Michael's New Bedroom Tank A house is only a home when it shelters a BSJF. I am currently homeless ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

11-08-2007, 11:31 AM	#28 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 4,304 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting So Jack, Pictures? Sorry Im just anxious to see the difference. __________________ Michael's Elos Powered Angel Reef Megan's Elos Powered tank of Greatness. Under construction: Michael's New Bedroom Tank A house is only a home when it shelters a BSJF. I am currently homeless ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

11-08-2007, 11:51 AM	#30 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 4,304 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Lighting How many hours behind? Gah Wake up.LOL __________________ Michael's Elos Powered Angel Reef Megan's Elos Powered tank of Greatness. Under construction: Michael's New Bedroom Tank A house is only a home when it shelters a BSJF. I am currently homeless ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

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