Problem w/new Blue Ricordia

bluespotjawfish · 08-31-2007, 09:07 AM

Last night I noticed the mouth was elongated a bit and snapped a shot of it and then this morning I woke up and a 1/4 of it is GONE as shown in the other photo! (On pic was taken under blue lights, the other with lights out.) I've only had him a week, he is on the bottom, my other new rics around him and elsewhere in the tank are fine. Until know he has behaved normally. I suppose you'll want some parameters, just woke up so will go do those now.

Any suggestions on what I should do?

blue_eyes53813 · 08-31-2007, 09:23 AM

Looks like it is pretty sick,, sorry. I hope it pulls through. Not much you can do for it. Have you seen anything picking at it?

bluespotjawfish · 08-31-2007, 09:42 AM

Alk 196
Calc 470
Mag 1380
Phos .03
Nitrate 0
pH 7.8
Temp 79
Salinity 1.025

Blue -

I didn't want to hear that, I wanted you to tell me it would be ok and I was overreacting. As for fish, Mr. Palani could do this damage, but he is a straight A student. Oops I'm going to edit this post before I even post it, Mr. Palani is getting an F for not playing well with others. I was just observing the tank while I was writing this and saw him help himself! It may have already had a problem though. You can see the elongated mouth open in the photo from last night and no evidence of any nipping. Anyway, my baby blue ric is now in another classroom (my 50 gallon) because there is no way to move Mr. Palani. Lights in the 50 are 175 MH (14k). I put him about mid level in the tank. (He was at the bottom of the 125 under 250 MH (20k). Does that seem like the right place to put him?

blue_eyes53813 · 08-31-2007, 09:48 AM

Thats all you can do, Hopefully it will pull through. I'll cross my fingers that part of it will make it and start new growth... .Good luck

BigAl07 · 08-31-2007, 09:50 AM

That's some extensive damage there. If you see it start to "gell/dissolve" I'd get it out before it pollutes the water. It could pull through as long as a significant amount of the mouth is healthy and still intact. Just watch for signs of advancing decay and don't hesitate to pull it out if it does. My ric extruded a slime coat when I cut it but that only lasted a day and it started healing immediately. So if it continues to degrade get it out.

Sorry about this. It may have been sickly which is why Mr. Palani picked at it in the first place.

Allen

bluespotjawfish · 08-31-2007, 10:13 AM

He is already looking much better in the new tank. All the sluffing off stringy stuff is gone. So let's hold on to some hope.

flricordia · 08-31-2007, 10:23 AM

If I were you, not that it is related to what happened, but yumas are much more tempermental than FL ricordias, I would see about getting your ph up to at the least 8.3. That is pretty low and I wouldn't expect any of my yumas to do too well over the long run with ph that low. JMO.

lcstorc · 08-31-2007, 10:31 AM

I hope it pulls through for you.

BigAl07 · 08-31-2007, 10:49 AM

I didn't even notice the low PH..... is that where you normally keep your PH at?

Allen

lcstorc · 08-31-2007, 11:11 AM

I'll answer for her since there was a whole thread about it.
It is always that low and she has tried everything to raise it but it hasn't worked. I forget all the details but remember reading the thread when it was being discussed.

bluespotjawfish · 08-31-2007, 11:35 AM

I really don't "keep" pH that low, it decides for itself. Typical 7.8 (night) to 8.0 (day). As you can see I keep the alk at the very high end to even get this, run several fans, pumps, did the hose off the skimmer to outside, stood on my head, and everything else I could imagine. I have had green rics for a while now that have done fine and had babies too. But I don't like it that low myself.

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Alk 196
Calc 470
Mag 1380
Phos .03
Nitrate 0
pH 7.8
Temp 79
Salinity 1.025

BEELZEBOB · 08-31-2007, 12:45 PM

so i had a rock with 7 of the exact same yumas.

with in a week, they all started to dissolve, and apparently its called brown jelly rot.

i did a lot of research, and apparently it can be attributed to them being wild caught, opposed to aquacultured?

it really sux. those wewe one of two corals i ve lost.

bluespotjawfish · 08-31-2007, 05:54 PM

Oh, that would be sad, very sad!

Here's what it looks like now.

Dentoid · 08-31-2007, 06:33 PM

I think it has a very good chance of coming back. People frag these by putting them in a blender! Keep up hope.

CATALYST · 08-31-2007, 08:30 PM

I don't know if it will help. I had a frogspawn start to go south on me after my tank had a temp spike. It had started with the brown dissolving look. I dipped it in coral disinfectant...looks like iodine, for about 10 minutes a day for like 3 days and it helped it come back. Maybe it could help your blue guy.

08-31-2007, 09:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 8,024 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia Looks like it is pretty sick,, sorry. I hope it pulls through. Not much you can do for it. Have you seen anything picking at it? __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

08-31-2007, 09:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,943 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia Alk 196 Calc 470 Mag 1380 Phos .03 Nitrate 0 pH 7.8 Temp 79 Salinity 1.025 Blue - I didn't want to hear that, I wanted you to tell me it would be ok and I was overreacting. As for fish, Mr. Palani could do this damage, but he is a straight A student. Oops I'm going to edit this post before I even post it, Mr. Palani is getting an F for not playing well with others. I was just observing the tank while I was writing this and saw him help himself! It may have already had a problem though. You can see the elongated mouth open in the photo from last night and no evidence of any nipping. Anyway, my baby blue ric is now in another classroom (my 50 gallon) because there is no way to move Mr. Palani. Lights in the 50 are 175 MH (14k). I put him about mid level in the tank. (He was at the bottom of the 125 under 250 MH (20k). Does that seem like the right place to put him? __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow Please Donate to the American Cancer Society: http://main.acsevents.org/goto/lorrainerichards

08-31-2007, 09:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 8,024 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia Thats all you can do, Hopefully it will pull through. I'll cross my fingers that part of it will make it and start new growth... .Good luck __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

08-31-2007, 09:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia That's some extensive damage there. If you see it start to "gell/dissolve" I'd get it out before it pollutes the water. It could pull through as long as a significant amount of the mouth is healthy and still intact. Just watch for signs of advancing decay and don't hesitate to pull it out if it does. My ric extruded a slime coat when I cut it but that only lasted a day and it started healing immediately. So if it continues to degrade get it out. Sorry about this. It may have been sickly which is why Mr. Palani picked at it in the first place. Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

08-31-2007, 10:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,943 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia He is already looking much better in the new tank. All the sluffing off stringy stuff is gone. So let's hold on to some hope. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow Please Donate to the American Cancer Society: http://main.acsevents.org/goto/lorrainerichards

08-31-2007, 10:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
flricordia Just Mike for short Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia If I were you, not that it is related to what happened, but yumas are much more tempermental than FL ricordias, I would see about getting your ph up to at the least 8.3. That is pretty low and I wouldn't expect any of my yumas to do too well over the long run with ph that low. JMO.

08-31-2007, 10:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia I hope it pulls through for you. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

08-31-2007, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia I didn't even notice the low PH..... is that where you normally keep your PH at? Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

08-31-2007, 11:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 26,433 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia I'll answer for her since there was a whole thread about it. It is always that low and she has tried everything to raise it but it hasn't worked. I forget all the details but remember reading the thread when it was being discussed. __________________ Peace LYNN Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Lynn's frag tank experiment A reef tank is like a race car. The faster you go the harder you crash.

08-31-2007, 12:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia so i had a rock with 7 of the exact same yumas. with in a week, they all started to dissolve, and apparently its called brown jelly rot. i did a lot of research, and apparently it can be attributed to them being wild caught, opposed to aquacultured? it really sux. those wewe one of two corals i ve lost. __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

08-31-2007, 08:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
CATALYST Reef Lobster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,442 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Problem w/new Blue Ricordia I don't know if it will help. I had a frogspawn start to go south on me after my tank had a temp spike. It had started with the brown dissolving look. I dipped it in coral disinfectant...looks like iodine, for about 10 minutes a day for like 3 days and it helped it come back. Maybe it could help your blue guy.

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