Ick Treatments and Fragging

kyle1284 · 08-28-2007, 08:36 PM

ok so i just met a fellow aquarist that has a nice collection of zoas, colt and leather corals that are all grown out and ready to be fragged. He has used kick ich and his colt and leather hand seem to be thriving but some of the zoas seem to have closed up and have been that way for a month now after using kick ich. my question is could the frags have any kind of copper or bad medication because were going to trade some frags and i do not want to introduce any copper into my reef tank at all... im going to help him frag the colt and the leather hand and some zoas. now how i intend to frag the zoas is cutting the rock and not the physical zoas themselves... what do yall think? All thoughs will be rewarded!

cheeks69 · 08-28-2007, 08:58 PM

AFAIK kick ich doesn't contain copper but as is obvious with the reaction by the zoanthids no medication is truly reefsafe. I don't think that adding the zoa's to your tank will harm it and a change may actually be beneficial.

kyle1284 · 08-28-2007, 09:31 PM

ok so now he said that the LFS gave him some kind of ich treatment that the LFS made. He said he called it Green X or something like that? im going to call up the LFS tomorrow and find out what he puts in it.

DaveK · 08-28-2007, 10:04 PM

In my opinion, there is no reef safe medication. No matter what is printed on the bottle, no matter what the LFS says, never ever medicate a reef system period.

Always remove the livestock in question and treat in a quarantine tank. The reef you save may be your own.

burning2nd · 08-29-2007, 09:33 AM

agreeded.... best to qt but like said a little change of things could help......

if there was copper i would think that the inverts would be dead...

are zoo's inverts? i dont know..

but on the other hand qting might give you some time to observe the zoos and frags b4 entering your system

08-28-2007, 08:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
kyle1284 Elegance coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,061 View Gallery Karma Komment	Ick Treatments and Fragging ok so i just met a fellow aquarist that has a nice collection of zoas, colt and leather corals that are all grown out and ready to be fragged. He has used kick ich and his colt and leather hand seem to be thriving but some of the zoas seem to have closed up and have been that way for a month now after using kick ich. my question is could the frags have any kind of copper or bad medication because were going to trade some frags and i do not want to introduce any copper into my reef tank at all... im going to help him frag the colt and the leather hand and some zoas. now how i intend to frag the zoas is cutting the rock and not the physical zoas themselves... what do yall think? All thoughs will be rewarded! __________________ KYLE 75 Gal 110 Lbs Live Rock 40 Lbs of live sand Equiptment:48 Inch 4x54 T-5 true blue and 10000k lights, 2 fuvual 305 Canister Filters Mis. Mushrooms, Fan Worms, hammer coral, frog spawn, candy cane, A TON OF TRUMPET CORAL!! orange plating monti, some kind of branching monti, pom pom xeina, all kinds of zoos BRIGHT GREEN star polyps, xeina, neon green toadstool, 3 damn damsles, a foxface and a blue tang. November 1...The begining! http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../random045.jpg November 8,2008 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ristina034.jpg My 75 GALLON BAR TOP REEF TANK! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...n-bar-top.html

08-28-2007, 08:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,386 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ick Treatments and Fragging AFAIK kick ich doesn't contain copper but as is obvious with the reaction by the zoanthids no medication is truly reefsafe. I don't think that adding the zoa's to your tank will harm it and a change may actually be beneficial. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

08-28-2007, 09:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
kyle1284 Elegance coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,061 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ick Treatments and Fragging ok so now he said that the LFS gave him some kind of ich treatment that the LFS made. He said he called it Green X or something like that? im going to call up the LFS tomorrow and find out what he puts in it. __________________ KYLE 75 Gal 110 Lbs Live Rock 40 Lbs of live sand Equiptment:48 Inch 4x54 T-5 true blue and 10000k lights, 2 fuvual 305 Canister Filters Mis. Mushrooms, Fan Worms, hammer coral, frog spawn, candy cane, A TON OF TRUMPET CORAL!! orange plating monti, some kind of branching monti, pom pom xeina, all kinds of zoos BRIGHT GREEN star polyps, xeina, neon green toadstool, 3 damn damsles, a foxface and a blue tang. November 1...The begining! http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../random045.jpg November 8,2008 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ristina034.jpg My 75 GALLON BAR TOP REEF TANK! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...n-bar-top.html

08-28-2007, 10:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
DaveK Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelpahia, PA Posts: 1,364 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ick Treatments and Fragging In my opinion, there is no reef safe medication. No matter what is printed on the bottle, no matter what the LFS says, never ever medicate a reef system period. Always remove the livestock in question and treat in a quarantine tank. The reef you save may be your own.

08-29-2007, 09:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Ick Treatments and Fragging agreeded.... best to qt but like said a little change of things could help...... if there was copper i would think that the inverts would be dead... are zoo's inverts? i dont know.. but on the other hand qting might give you some time to observe the zoos and frags b4 entering your system __________________ ________________________________________________ 30g, 10g DIY sump w/ mag7 Csr90 over flow. 36" sunpod 2x150 2 Tunze 6020 40 Lb's Live Rock 20 lb's of Ls Aqua C REmora mIxed reef, softies, pora's, clams, 1 Amphiprion ocellaris (hosting GTA) jake the jedi sexy shrimp, and brown bob

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