Starting a new project, need some help.

reefrunner · 02-04-2004, 08:28 PM

Ever started a new tank and knew you wanted to add 250W hqi halides in 10K, but weren't sure just how the different manufacturers bulbs looked? Or were doing a VHO lighting and were trying to decide between coralife and uri actinics? Once you provide the amount of light for your critters and hit your target spectrum, many manufacturer's bulbs look different, and whats more...the same manufacturers bulbs, of the same spectrum, look different as you increase or decrease the wattage. Wouldn't it be nice if there were a bunch of pictures to look at of many different bulbs and bulb combinations in different wattages and different spectrums all from different manufacturers where it was labeled, that this is X manufacturers 175W 12K MH w/ 2 X 32W CSL PC actinics on a 20g tank. You could browse through the photos looking for different spectrums and wattages to match what you want and see which one looks the best. This is something I am trying to put together, to do this I need alot of pics and specifics about the lighting on the tanks.
1) Bulb type(s) & number
2) Bulb manufacturers
3) Bulb wattage(s)
4) Bulb(s) color temp
5) Size tank they are on
6) Ballast running the bulb (if known/possible)

Pictures uploaded to this thread will be downloaded and added to the gallery with full credit to you and a link to reefsanctuary.com, for example in the photo description in the gallery it will say submitted by username from www.reefsantuary.com.

I hope some of you are willing to help, right now the gallery has 7 lonely photos in it

www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_comp

mojoreef · 02-04-2004, 09:15 PM

Oh man I have so many mixed bulbs in thier you'd never be able to figure it out, lol
Mike

Pro_builder · 02-04-2004, 09:26 PM

Here you go:
This tank is set up with 2- 250 watt MH's, Advance ballasts, Parabolic reflectors, with Bulb 8" off the water surface, on a reef ready AGA 7g Gal. tank.
Acitinics are 4- 55watt PC Actinic 03's, 5" from the water surface.
MH bulbs are as follows.
Left side= XM 10K
Right side= XM 20K

reefrunner · 02-04-2004, 09:35 PM

Thanks Troy!!!

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_c...os/Pro_builder

sharks · 02-04-2004, 09:48 PM

Great idea for a project Kev.
I will post mine this weekend if I can. I’m about to replace half the bulbs.

Nice tank Troy

SunnyX · 02-04-2004, 10:42 PM

I Have 2X250 MH XM 20k
2X110 VHO URi Actinic '03' and Actinic White

Pics can be found in my photo gallary.

Good Luck

SunnyX · 02-04-2004, 10:44 PM

With VHO And MH-

SunnyX · 02-04-2004, 10:45 PM

VHO only-

reefrunner · 02-04-2004, 11:02 PM

Thanks SunnyX!! That is a great tank, the MH really makes a difference!! I love your aquascapeing!

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_c..._20K/SunnyX_MH

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_c...bos/SunnyX_vho

Pro_builder · 02-04-2004, 11:46 PM

I will take a pic this weekend with both XM 10K's for ya too

Dingo · 02-05-2004, 08:56 AM

Gathering a bunch of pics from different tanks, with different cameras, with different white balances will not allow you to make comparisons between different bulbs.

You need to have the same tank, same camera, same settings, and then swap bulbs in order to have a meaningful comparison.

See this thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=254667

strat · 02-05-2004, 11:11 AM

question for ya pro.. in your pix the tank looks great (as im sure in does in person

) but the ? is does having different halides on either side make the light different looking from one side to the other, i think of the LFS tank and its clearly brighter and different kinda light on one side of the tank??? thanks alot

strat

Pro_builder · 02-05-2004, 12:05 PM

strat, yes it does make a difference. I am going back to 2- XM 10K bulbs today. I will get you a picture of that too.

ReefLady · 02-05-2004, 10:08 PM

I'll get a couple to you Kevin - probably this weekend. We've got the Iwasakis on the main tank, and the Ushio on the frag tank.

Just made myself a post it....

02-04-2004, 08:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Starting a new project, need some help. Ever started a new tank and knew you wanted to add 250W hqi halides in 10K, but weren't sure just how the different manufacturers bulbs looked? Or were doing a VHO lighting and were trying to decide between coralife and uri actinics? Once you provide the amount of light for your critters and hit your target spectrum, many manufacturer's bulbs look different, and whats more...the same manufacturers bulbs, of the same spectrum, look different as you increase or decrease the wattage. Wouldn't it be nice if there were a bunch of pictures to look at of many different bulbs and bulb combinations in different wattages and different spectrums all from different manufacturers where it was labeled, that this is X manufacturers 175W 12K MH w/ 2 X 32W CSL PC actinics on a 20g tank. You could browse through the photos looking for different spectrums and wattages to match what you want and see which one looks the best. This is something I am trying to put together, to do this I need alot of pics and specifics about the lighting on the tanks. 1) Bulb type(s) & number 2) Bulb manufacturers 3) Bulb wattage(s) 4) Bulb(s) color temp 5) Size tank they are on 6) Ballast running the bulb (if known/possible) Pictures uploaded to this thread will be downloaded and added to the gallery with full credit to you and a link to reefsanctuary.com, for example in the photo description in the gallery it will say submitted by username from www.reefsantuary.com. I hope some of you are willing to help, right now the gallery has 7 lonely photos in it www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_comp __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

02-04-2004, 09:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
mojoreef Just a reefer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,176 View Gallery Karma Komment	Oh man I have so many mixed bulbs in thier you'd never be able to figure it out, lol Mike __________________ Make sure you check out The Fish Gallery The Coral Gallery The Equipment Gallery

02-04-2004, 09:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	Here you go: This tank is set up with 2- 250 watt MH's, Advance ballasts, Parabolic reflectors, with Bulb 8" off the water surface, on a reef ready AGA 7g Gal. tank. Acitinics are 4- 55watt PC Actinic 03's, 5" from the water surface. MH bulbs are as follows. Left side= XM 10K Right side= XM 20K __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

02-04-2004, 09:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks Troy!!! http://www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_c...os/Pro_builder __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

02-04-2004, 09:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
sharks Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 843 View Gallery Karma Komment	Great idea for a project Kev. I will post mine this weekend if I can. I’m about to replace half the bulbs. Nice tank Troy __________________ The sea monkey has my money 220G fish only tank ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120G Reef 2 250W 65K MH’s. 2 VHO Actinics LifeReef filter/skimmer/20G REF 200LB Kaelini Rock . 2-3” DSB. Various, LPS, SPS, clams, leathers, and others Numerous fish ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> View my Photo Gallery><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>

02-04-2004, 10:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
SunnyX Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dearborn,MI Posts: 429 View Gallery Karma Komment	I Have 2X250 MH XM 20k 2X110 VHO URi Actinic '03' and Actinic White Pics can be found in my photo gallary. Good Luck __________________ 225gl Starphire(60Lx36Wx24H) Reef Deltec AP851 GEO Calcium Reactor Sequence DART TUNZE 6100 Stream SEIO 1500 2xAquaclear 270 Powerheads 3x250w MH ROIII+ Pheonix 14K DE HQI *2x110w VHO URi Super Actinic

02-04-2004, 10:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
SunnyX Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dearborn,MI Posts: 429 View Gallery Karma Komment	With VHO And MH-

02-04-2004, 10:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
SunnyX Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dearborn,MI Posts: 429 View Gallery Karma Komment	VHO only-

02-04-2004, 11:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
reefrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cedar Key, FL Posts: 1,069 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks SunnyX!! That is a great tank, the MH really makes a difference!! I love your aquascapeing! http://www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_c..._20K/SunnyX_MH http://www.aquariumadvice.com/bulb_c...bos/SunnyX_vho __________________ Kevin Check out my gallery!

02-04-2004, 11:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	I will take a pic this weekend with both XM 10K's for ya too __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

02-05-2004, 08:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dingo Serpent Star Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 206 View Gallery Karma Komment	Gathering a bunch of pics from different tanks, with different cameras, with different white balances will not allow you to make comparisons between different bulbs. You need to have the same tank, same camera, same settings, and then swap bulbs in order to have a meaningful comparison. See this thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=254667 __________________ Snail Whisperer Member RSMC&RP Last edited by Dingo : 02-05-2004 at 08:58 AM.

02-05-2004, 11:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
strat Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 293 View Gallery Karma Komment	question for ya pro.. in your pix the tank looks great (as im sure in does in person ) but the ? is does having different halides on either side make the light different looking from one side to the other, i think of the LFS tank and its clearly brighter and different kinda light on one side of the tank??? thanks alot strat __________________ its a fish's life..... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner2.gif

02-05-2004, 12:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	strat, yes it does make a difference. I am going back to 2- XM 10K bulbs today. I will get you a picture of that too. __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

02-05-2004, 10:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
ReefLady Tridacna maxima Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 4,590 View Gallery Karma Komment	I'll get a couple to you Kevin - probably this weekend. We've got the Iwasakis on the main tank, and the Ushio on the frag tank. Just made myself a post it.... __________________ ~ Teri -------- "You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice." ~(currently tankless)~ Our 180g sps tank / DIY adventure (taken down in late 2006): Our 180g DIY Reef Project ---What's next????

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