250 watt SE MH bulbs (comprehensive testing)

Maxx · 11-22-2003, 04:20 AM

hey everyone,
I went ahead asked Mojoreef if this was okay to do here, and he gave me the go ahead.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=254667 (edited and fixed now...dont know what happened???)
This is a link to a thread on RC that is very detailed and very comprehensive, its on 250 single ended metal halide bulbs. And it encompasses just about all of them. the neat thing about it is that JBNY, (the guy doing all this work) is comparing all the bulbs with different ballasts, so you can see how the different combinations effect PAR. I hope we canget JBNY over here. He had just started posting over on RAG, when everything got crazy.
Important things to note....
1... JBNY doesnt work for anyone in the industry, he's just a hobbiest like you and me. He's doing this for knowledge and enjoyment of the hobby, (altho I suspect he quit enjoying these tests somewhere after the second month of steady testing bulbs and ballasts!)
2...This testing only encompasses 250 watt Single Ended bulbs. He's not comparing 400 watts or the 175watts, just the 250's. I dont know how much things will translate over to different wattages...(ie, if bulb Q gives off a PAR rating of 600 while being fired by ballast X in the 250 watt configuration, the same combination in 175 watt configuration wont necessarily produce a PAR rating of 525)...and JBNY doesnt even begin to try and draw correlations between his tests and other wattages.

Basically this is a great thread for those interested in learing alot about the different bulbs and ballast combinations and how they can effect your animals.
I hope you guys all find this interesting, I certainly have...
Nick

wooddood · 11-22-2003, 05:23 AM

thanks maxx ,good info.i cant read it right now have to go to work in a bit but i sure will later thanks again. dave.

mojoreef · 11-22-2003, 02:13 PM

Maxx I added it to our library.

thanks

Mike

mwrager · 11-22-2003, 02:18 PM

There is a lot of good info on that link. A must read for someone looking at getting new lights for their tanks.

Maxx · 11-22-2003, 04:25 PM

Thanks Mike !

ig0r · 11-22-2003, 09:24 PM

I am getting page cannot be found

Pro_builder · 11-22-2003, 09:27 PM

page can't be found???? What happened to it?

sambot · 11-23-2003, 12:01 AM

Hey where's the page?

sharks · 11-23-2003, 02:31 AM

Crud I hope the page is up soon. I read it a while ago and JBNY did an awesome job in documenting his tests. I hope RC upgrades it's site soon.
A great link Maxx

S

sorcerer · 11-23-2003, 02:40 AM

Good info Maxx!
try this link
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=254667
It should work....

11-22-2003, 04:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,080 View Gallery Karma Komment	250 watt SE MH bulbs (comprehensive testing) hey everyone, I went ahead asked Mojoreef if this was okay to do here, and he gave me the go ahead. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=254667 (edited and fixed now...dont know what happened???) This is a link to a thread on RC that is very detailed and very comprehensive, its on 250 single ended metal halide bulbs. And it encompasses just about all of them. the neat thing about it is that JBNY, (the guy doing all this work) is comparing all the bulbs with different ballasts, so you can see how the different combinations effect PAR. I hope we canget JBNY over here. He had just started posting over on RAG, when everything got crazy. Important things to note.... 1... JBNY doesnt work for anyone in the industry, he's just a hobbiest like you and me. He's doing this for knowledge and enjoyment of the hobby, (altho I suspect he quit enjoying these tests somewhere after the second month of steady testing bulbs and ballasts!) 2...This testing only encompasses 250 watt Single Ended bulbs. He's not comparing 400 watts or the 175watts, just the 250's. I dont know how much things will translate over to different wattages...(ie, if bulb Q gives off a PAR rating of 600 while being fired by ballast X in the 250 watt configuration, the same combination in 175 watt configuration wont necessarily produce a PAR rating of 525)...and JBNY doesnt even begin to try and draw correlations between his tests and other wattages. Basically this is a great thread for those interested in learing alot about the different bulbs and ballast combinations and how they can effect your animals. I hope you guys all find this interesting, I certainly have... Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!) Last edited by Maxx : 11-23-2003 at 01:12 PM.

11-22-2003, 05:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
wooddood the wood dude Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: marion. INDIANA Posts: 3,457 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	thanks maxx ,good info.i cant read it right now have to go to work in a bit but i sure will later thanks again. dave. __________________ 120 gal/in wall tank/starboard substraight/2 250 watt 10k xm metal halides/ 4 55watt 03 actinics/150lbs lr/scwd on return/scwd on a closed loop/aquaclear aquatics 200 pro wetdry w/skimmer. ask all the questions you have if we cant answer it we'll make up some thing. remember patience is the key to a kick ass reef. dave.

11-22-2003, 02:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
mojoreef Just a reefer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,176 View Gallery Karma Komment	Maxx I added it to our library. thanks Mike __________________ Make sure you check out The Fish Gallery The Coral Gallery The Equipment Gallery

11-22-2003, 02:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
mwrager Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert AZ Posts: 1,068 View Gallery Karma Komment	There is a lot of good info on that link. A must read for someone looking at getting new lights for their tanks. __________________ Mark Some days I realy feel old! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner3.gif

11-22-2003, 04:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,080 View Gallery Karma Komment	Thanks Mike ! __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

11-22-2003, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
ig0r Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1 View Gallery Karma Komment	I am getting page cannot be found __________________ I'm such a NOOB!!!

11-22-2003, 09:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pro_builder DIY Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oxford, Iowa Posts: 1,746 View Gallery Karma Komment	page can't be found???? What happened to it? __________________ -Troy 180 gallon Reef, 3- 250 XM 15K MH Electronic ballast, 380 watts VHO Actinics, 2- 5 watt LED Moon lights, 100 gal rubbermaid sump, 75 gallon Fuge, ETSS 600 Skimmer, 4700-5400 gph pump for return, Octopus 3000 controller, Iwaki 40 RL skimmer pump, 2- 65w PC 10K fuge lights, 2 55 gallon barrels, Custom light oak stand and hood, misc pumps, extra 600 gallon rated tank size protein skimmer. Purple tang, yellow tang, pacific blue tang, 2 green chromis, 1 Sand sifting star, snails, hermit crabs, 2 mated perculas, pulsing Xenia, Anenome, mushrooms, ricordia, zoanthids, kenya tree 1 1/2" tall, misc other hitchhiker stuff. DIY is my dream... ...well OK the only way I can afford this Addiction!! Just as the light goes on in my head... ... I break the bulb!!

11-23-2003, 12:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
sambot Fire Coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 72 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hey where's the page?

11-23-2003, 02:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
sharks Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 843 View Gallery Karma Komment	Crud I hope the page is up soon. I read it a while ago and JBNY did an awesome job in documenting his tests. I hope RC upgrades it's site soon. A great link Maxx S __________________ The sea monkey has my money 220G fish only tank ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120G Reef 2 250W 65K MH’s. 2 VHO Actinics LifeReef filter/skimmer/20G REF 200LB Kaelini Rock . 2-3” DSB. Various, LPS, SPS, clams, leathers, and others Numerous fish ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> View my Photo Gallery><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>

11-23-2003, 02:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
sorcerer Court Computer Wiz Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nashville,TN Posts: 252 View Gallery Karma Komment	Good info Maxx! try this link http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=254667 It should work.... __________________ ------------ walt --------------------- ...and I thought woodworking was an expensive hobby..... 75G Oceanic Reef Tank, 30G Acrylic sump, 12G fuge, AquaC EV-120 skimmer, AquaMedic Kalkwasser Reactor, Mag 12 return pump, FlexiFlow dosing pump. 2-250W AB 10,000K MH, 2 95W Actinic VHO Sorcerer's Home Office Reef - 12G JBJ Nanocube, Minijet 606 pump, 50W heater, 12lbs LR ----------- http://www.reefsanctuary.com/Banners/RS_banner4.gif

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