Stupid FAST fish . . .

BigAl07 · 05-14-2007, 05:19 PM

Anyone have any easy(cheap) ideas on how to catch a pair of VERY fast fish?

I have a 12g Nano-Cube and have two "chromis" in it that need to go to another tank. The problem is that my LR has too many holes and crevices for the little stinkers to hide in. Taking the tank down would mess up all the LR structure and probably end up hurting the corals I have in it.

I have read in the past (even though I can't find ANY right now) articles on fish traps etc. Does anyone have a DIY trap that I can make to catch these rascals? They need to go badly and I don't want to hurt/stress them if I can help it.

Allen

Dentoid · 05-14-2007, 05:28 PM

Persistence!

TNT_Tile · 05-14-2007, 05:59 PM

You can always try a fish trap. I used a soda bottle, cut it along the label tored the top and flip the cap side inward. Worked on a 125 and all I did was droped it in and waited. Best of luck.

BigAl07 · 05-14-2007, 06:00 PM

Yeah but how to I make one?

TNT_Tile · 05-14-2007, 06:03 PM

16 oz soda bottle. Fish go in and cant get out.

BoomerD · 05-14-2007, 06:23 PM

Easy answer...drain the tank. Sounds horrible, but it works, and your corals will USUALLY tolerate being exposed to the air for a few minutes. (Remember, MOST are fragged out of the water.)
I asked Anthony Calfo one time about catching fish in a large tank full of rock, and that's his suggestion to me...it worked great.
A 12 gallon tank would drain pretty fast, and be quick to refill, so you SHOULD be able to do it within a few minutes.

TNT_Tile · 05-14-2007, 06:27 PM

Found it on NJRC forum and it is called a bottle trap if that helps you search. Here is someone else's description.

take a soda bottle and cut off the top 5 inches so it looks like a funnel. depending on the size of your GSM, cut open the screw cap thingy so the fish just about fits, maybe a tad bigger. An elongated hole is better rather than a round one (round holes good for wrasses)

take this funnel looking thing and invert it so you basically have a fishtrap with an inverted funnel. I used a stapler (don't leave it in there for 2 days!) to hold the two in place. DO NOT foget to place liverock inside the bottle (just enough) so it will sink on its own. I then tied a piece of fishing line so I can easily lift up the bottle without dunking my hands in the tank.

frozen food is then placed inside the bottle, they will swim in it and will not easily find its way out.

woolfe · 05-14-2007, 10:20 PM

Lean a net on a rock and feed near it for a couple of days. Once they get used to it being there, feed them and scoop them up. Worked for me a few times.

BigAl07 · 05-14-2007, 10:56 PM

thanks for your input. I found a link and I think it may just work. Gonna try it in the morning

instructables : Soda Bottle Fish Trap

Allen

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNT_Tile

Found it on NJRC forum and it is called a bottle trap if that helps you search. Here is someone else's description.

take a soda bottle and cut off the top 5 inches so it looks like a funnel. depending on the size of your GSM, cut open the screw cap thingy so the fish just about fits, maybe a tad bigger. An elongated hole is better rather than a round one (round holes good for wrasses)

take this funnel looking thing and invert it so you basically have a fishtrap with an inverted funnel. I used a stapler (don't leave it in there for 2 days!) to hold the two in place. DO NOT foget to place liverock inside the bottle (just enough) so it will sink on its own. I then tied a piece of fishing line so I can easily lift up the bottle without dunking my hands in the tank.

frozen food is then placed inside the bottle, they will swim in it and will not easily find its way out.

TNT_Tile · 05-16-2007, 01:35 PM

That's what I meant but couldn't describe. You could probably do without the zip ties, I think that is a bit of overkill. Glad you found a link. Good luck.

BigAl07 · 05-16-2007, 01:45 PM

Thanks for your help. I made one late last night and was so tired I did a DUMB thing... I super-glued the insert into the bottle. So once I catch the first fish I gotts cut the trap to get it out. I have another bottle here at my desk which I may make into a trap shortly and USE zip ties.

Unfortunately the "chromis" don't seem to be "hungry" enough to investigate the baited trap yet. Maybe they will be soon...

Allen

rDr4g0n · 05-16-2007, 02:19 PM

i used to make those traps all the time and place them in creeks and ponds. id catch water bugs, salamanders, minnows, crawfish, and aliens. wait... no aliens.

BigAl07 · 05-18-2007, 05:34 PM

Looks like I'm draining my tank this weekend to catch those lil devil fish.. well actually just ONE! I caught one yesterday in the net but now if I even LOOK at the net the other one goes into hiding!!

Allen

Woodstock · 05-18-2007, 05:49 PM

Bummer Allen. You might want to invest in an acrylic fish trap that I use. It could also be made very easily.

Fish Trap

Good luck to you! Remember, drink the beers AFTER you're finished

Cassette87 · 05-18-2007, 06:03 PM

I have 3 chromis i need to catch as well... not lookin forward to doin it, but i'm going to try the soda bottle trap though. im a bit scared of any sort of chemical from the glue residue though....

05-14-2007, 05:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Stupid FAST fish . . . Anyone have any easy(cheap) ideas on how to catch a pair of VERY fast fish? I have a 12g Nano-Cube and have two "chromis" in it that need to go to another tank. The problem is that my LR has too many holes and crevices for the little stinkers to hide in. Taking the tank down would mess up all the LR structure and probably end up hurting the corals I have in it. I have read in the past (even though I can't find ANY right now) articles on fish traps etc. Does anyone have a DIY trap that I can make to catch these rascals? They need to go badly and I don't want to hurt/stress them if I can help it. Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

05-14-2007, 05:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
TNT_Tile Midas Blenny Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 89 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . You can always try a fish trap. I used a soda bottle, cut it along the label tored the top and flip the cap side inward. Worked on a 125 and all I did was droped it in and waited. Best of luck.

05-14-2007, 06:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Yeah but how to I make one? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

05-14-2007, 06:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
TNT_Tile Midas Blenny Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 89 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . 16 oz soda bottle. Fish go in and cant get out.

05-14-2007, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Easy answer...drain the tank. Sounds horrible, but it works, and your corals will USUALLY tolerate being exposed to the air for a few minutes. (Remember, MOST are fragged out of the water.) I asked Anthony Calfo one time about catching fish in a large tank full of rock, and that's his suggestion to me...it worked great. A 12 gallon tank would drain pretty fast, and be quick to refill, so you SHOULD be able to do it within a few minutes. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

05-14-2007, 06:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
TNT_Tile Midas Blenny Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 89 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Found it on NJRC forum and it is called a bottle trap if that helps you search. Here is someone else's description. take a soda bottle and cut off the top 5 inches so it looks like a funnel. depending on the size of your GSM, cut open the screw cap thingy so the fish just about fits, maybe a tad bigger. An elongated hole is better rather than a round one (round holes good for wrasses) take this funnel looking thing and invert it so you basically have a fishtrap with an inverted funnel. I used a stapler (don't leave it in there for 2 days!) to hold the two in place. DO NOT foget to place liverock inside the bottle (just enough) so it will sink on its own. I then tied a piece of fishing line so I can easily lift up the bottle without dunking my hands in the tank. frozen food is then placed inside the bottle, they will swim in it and will not easily find its way out.

05-14-2007, 10:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
woolfe Sea Pen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 331 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Lean a net on a rock and feed near it for a couple of days. Once they get used to it being there, feed them and scoop them up. Worked for me a few times. __________________ Wendy 90 gal reef w/ a 29 gal seahorse tank connected. 30 gal. nano w/ Maroons

05-16-2007, 01:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
TNT_Tile Midas Blenny Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 89 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . That's what I meant but couldn't describe. You could probably do without the zip ties, I think that is a bit of overkill. Glad you found a link. Good luck.

05-16-2007, 01:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Thanks for your help. I made one late last night and was so tired I did a DUMB thing... I super-glued the insert into the bottle. So once I catch the first fish I gotts cut the trap to get it out. I have another bottle here at my desk which I may make into a trap shortly and USE zip ties. Unfortunately the "chromis" don't seem to be "hungry" enough to investigate the baited trap yet. Maybe they will be soon... Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

05-16-2007, 02:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
rDr4g0n Elegance coral Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south texas Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . i used to make those traps all the time and place them in creeks and ponds. id catch water bugs, salamanders, minnows, crawfish, and aliens. wait... no aliens. __________________ I know there are quite a few typos in this post. It's not that I'm stupid... it's more like... I'm lazy. - John My 29 Gallon tank of AWESOME My DIY Projects: My $50, 150watt lighting • 10 gallon tall tank • Hood for my 10gal. tall my r0xx0r DIY protein skimmer • 2 cheap strip lights into 1 • Grow cyano!?

05-18-2007, 05:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Looks like I'm draining my tank this weekend to catch those lil devil fish.. well actually just ONE! I caught one yesterday in the net but now if I even LOOK at the net the other one goes into hiding!! Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

05-18-2007, 05:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,502 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . Bummer Allen. You might want to invest in an acrylic fish trap that I use. It could also be made very easily. Fish Trap Good luck to you! Remember, drink the beers AFTER you're finished __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My Victorious Battle with ICH* 120 Reef Chronicle ~ *Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* *Massive 300 gal growout~* *My Anemone & Picasso Tank ~* *Picasso & Snowcasso for sale~* "Energy and persistance conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

05-18-2007, 06:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cassette87 Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Palos Park, IL Posts: 1,474 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Stupid FAST fish . . . I have 3 chromis i need to catch as well... not lookin forward to doin it, but i'm going to try the soda bottle trap though. im a bit scared of any sort of chemical from the glue residue though.... __________________ Andy My 29 Gallon Reef

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