The MANTIS Shrimp Club! - Page 11

goldenmean · 09-13-2007, 01:42 PM

Both of my Manti were very active yesterday.
I know the pics suck but I am working Santa for a new camera for xmas

Mantis #1

Mantis #2 making his first appearance for the camera

chich0 · 10-04-2007, 08:30 AM

will they harm any fish????

goldenmean · 10-04-2007, 01:03 PM

chich0.
I saw your other thread that you heard the tell tale clicking sound.
It is possible that it is not a mantis but rather a pistol shrimp. The only way to tell for sure is to see them and Pistols like to hide.
Here is a link to a site that BeelzeBOB posted earlier on this thread
Introduction to the Stomatopoda

Basically there are two types of Mantis, depending on the functionality of their raptorial appendage. Smashers and Spearers. Smashers can break open snail and hermit shells. Spearers can spear small fish that get too close.

I have 2 smashers in my display and one in my sump. The one in my sump I plan on taking to my LFS but I am going to keep the other two. They may take out a snail or crab and that is okay. I don't have any fish yet but I will and they will be safe. I do feed my mantis fresh shrimp and calamari by hand 9 okay really by chop stick) in the hopes that if I feed them well they will not bother my CUC too much.

Bwlr · 10-04-2007, 03:44 PM

Since you're hearing the "clicking", you might just have a smasher.

I don't know if a smasher would go after a healthy fish or not... but I'll bet a spearer would.

Intranick · 10-04-2007, 04:12 PM

Wow, i had no clue how cool mantis shrimp were till i started reading this.

What would the minimum size tank for keeping one be? could you maybe list a couple cool species of both the smasher and the spearer?

also.. could those things break glass?

vdituri · 10-04-2007, 04:49 PM

There are a few reported cases of the larger varieties of smashers breaking glass tanks.

BEELZEBOB · 10-04-2007, 04:50 PM

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What would the minimum size tank for keeping one be? could you maybe list a couple cool species of both the smasher and the spearer?

again, it depends on the species. look at the link i posted in the first few pages, its a SPECIES LIST!

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also.. could those things break glass?

O. scyllarus (pecock mantis') and g. chingara can, only because the reach such a large size. a few others could "chip" glass, buut not shatter it.

Intranick · 10-04-2007, 05:09 PM

thanks, but the problem with that list is that there are like 40+ types of them on there, and with my goldfish memory, id have a hard time remembering any details about one unless there was something specifically cool...

Bwlr · 10-04-2007, 10:06 PM

The Peacock Mantis, O. scyllarus, is beautiful!
Vibrant colors, and great personality.
I've never kept one, but there's a few people that I've talked to that have, and they wouldn't have it any other way.

It really all depends on what you're looking for. Do you want a larger one? Or smaller one? A spearer or a smasher?

If you go through the list, and one looks cool, just bookmark it. Then keep looking. That way you can go back to something that catches your eye.

vdituri · 10-05-2007, 02:14 AM

Finally got a half not crappy picture of Ghengis Khan.
He's got alot of colors going on. He's only 2-3 inches.
Peacock smasher. Loves those snails.
Speaking of which, Bob, what do you use for a cleanup crew in your mantis tank? I'm starting to get algae.

Bwlr · 10-16-2007, 03:41 PM

Just an updated shot of my mantis tank.
I had to move some stuff around. I had the filter hanging on the side of the tank. When salt creep got around the side of the filter, it would seep down the side of the tank. So, I put the filter on the back, and then I had to move some rocks around.

goldenmean · 10-16-2007, 04:39 PM

two week ago I aquascaped my tank for the first time.
HH mantis # 1 was MIA since then. Yesterday he made an appearace.

Early last week Mantis #2 closed all the doors to his rock and did not open them for 3 days. When he reappeared he too was larger and more green.
Pic to follow.

I have 3 manti total - 2 in the display and one in the sump.
The LFS that I thought would take Mantis #3 (sump) wanted nothing to do with him.
So if someone wants a Mantis from the Gulf of Mexico.
Neogonodactylus wennerae I believe
wennerae
Come to Chicago and I will give him to you.

vdituri · 10-16-2007, 04:43 PM

He lives in an upscale neighborhood Goldenmean.
Nice zoos in there.

What do other people use for cleanup crews in their Mantis tanks?
I'm interested to know. Do you keep pumping snails in their and hope they clean before they get eaten?
I think I'm getting some mollies on my way home.

goldenmean · 10-16-2007, 05:04 PM

Thats a nice mantis tank bwlr!

My Manti are still pretty small ( about 1 1/2 inches) and as far as I know they have not taken out any snails or hermits. They have been eating some of the many mollusks that I have in my LR. I have been feeding them fresh shrimp and squid in hopes they will not take out too many of my CUC. We will see how that works! Ha!
Mantis #2 did take out a sea cucumber who made the fatal error of hanging out over the mantis' door for about 3 days. I also have a lot of gorilla crabs that HH on my LR so when I spear one of them I feed them to the manti too!

Bwlr · 10-16-2007, 05:13 PM

I don't use a cleanup crew.
I scrape the glass with a razor blade every now and then.

He's the only thing in the tank besides a few zoas, shrooms, and GSP.

09-13-2007, 01:42 PM	#151 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,063 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! Both of my Manti were very active yesterday. I know the pics suck but I am working Santa for a new camera for xmas Mantis #1 Mantis #2 making his first appearance for the camera __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My Second Quarantine Tank 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

10-04-2007, 08:30 AM	#152 (permalink)
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10-04-2007, 01:03 PM	#153 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,063 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! chich0. I saw your other thread that you heard the tell tale clicking sound. It is possible that it is not a mantis but rather a pistol shrimp. The only way to tell for sure is to see them and Pistols like to hide. Here is a link to a site that BeelzeBOB posted earlier on this thread Introduction to the Stomatopoda Basically there are two types of Mantis, depending on the functionality of their raptorial appendage. Smashers and Spearers. Smashers can break open snail and hermit shells. Spearers can spear small fish that get too close. I have 2 smashers in my display and one in my sump. The one in my sump I plan on taking to my LFS but I am going to keep the other two. They may take out a snail or crab and that is okay. I don't have any fish yet but I will and they will be safe. I do feed my mantis fresh shrimp and calamari by hand 9 okay really by chop stick) in the hopes that if I feed them well they will not bother my CUC too much. __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My Second Quarantine Tank 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

10-04-2007, 03:44 PM	#154 (permalink)
Bwlr Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I give up. Posts: 1,123 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! Since you're hearing the "clicking", you might just have a smasher. I don't know if a smasher would go after a healthy fish or not... but I'll bet a spearer would. __________________ ~Scott

10-04-2007, 04:12 PM	#155 (permalink)
Intranick Serpent Star Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 236 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! Wow, i had no clue how cool mantis shrimp were till i started reading this. What would the minimum size tank for keeping one be? could you maybe list a couple cool species of both the smasher and the spearer? also.. could those things break glass? __________________ "Sea without a shore for the banished one unheard He lightens the beacon, light at the end of world Showing the way lighting hope in their hearts The ones on their travels homeward from afar" ~Nightwish, The Islander

10-04-2007, 04:49 PM	#156 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,725 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! There are a few reported cases of the larger varieties of smashers breaking glass tanks. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

10-04-2007, 05:09 PM	#158 (permalink)
Intranick Serpent Star Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 236 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! thanks, but the problem with that list is that there are like 40+ types of them on there, and with my goldfish memory, id have a hard time remembering any details about one unless there was something specifically cool... __________________ "Sea without a shore for the banished one unheard He lightens the beacon, light at the end of world Showing the way lighting hope in their hearts The ones on their travels homeward from afar" ~Nightwish, The Islander

10-04-2007, 10:06 PM	#159 (permalink)
Bwlr Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I give up. Posts: 1,123 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! The Peacock Mantis, O. scyllarus, is beautiful! Vibrant colors, and great personality. I've never kept one, but there's a few people that I've talked to that have, and they wouldn't have it any other way. It really all depends on what you're looking for. Do you want a larger one? Or smaller one? A spearer or a smasher? If you go through the list, and one looks cool, just bookmark it. Then keep looking. That way you can go back to something that catches your eye. __________________ ~Scott

10-16-2007, 03:41 PM	#161 (permalink)
Bwlr Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I give up. Posts: 1,123 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! Just an updated shot of my mantis tank. I had to move some stuff around. I had the filter hanging on the side of the tank. When salt creep got around the side of the filter, it would seep down the side of the tank. So, I put the filter on the back, and then I had to move some rocks around. __________________ ~Scott

10-16-2007, 04:39 PM	#162 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,063 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! two week ago I aquascaped my tank for the first time. HH mantis # 1 was MIA since then. Yesterday he made an appearace. Early last week Mantis #2 closed all the doors to his rock and did not open them for 3 days. When he reappeared he too was larger and more green. Pic to follow. I have 3 manti total - 2 in the display and one in the sump. The LFS that I thought would take Mantis #3 (sump) wanted nothing to do with him. So if someone wants a Mantis from the Gulf of Mexico. Neogonodactylus wennerae I believe wennerae Come to Chicago and I will give him to you. __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My Second Quarantine Tank 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

10-16-2007, 04:43 PM	#163 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,725 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! He lives in an upscale neighborhood Goldenmean. Nice zoos in there. What do other people use for cleanup crews in their Mantis tanks? I'm interested to know. Do you keep pumping snails in their and hope they clean before they get eaten? I think I'm getting some mollies on my way home. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

10-16-2007, 05:04 PM	#164 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,063 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! Thats a nice mantis tank bwlr! My Manti are still pretty small ( about 1 1/2 inches) and as far as I know they have not taken out any snails or hermits. They have been eating some of the many mollusks that I have in my LR. I have been feeding them fresh shrimp and squid in hopes they will not take out too many of my CUC. We will see how that works! Ha! Mantis #2 did take out a sea cucumber who made the fatal error of hanging out over the mantis' door for about 3 days. I also have a lot of gorilla crabs that HH on my LR so when I spear one of them I feed them to the manti too! __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My Second Quarantine Tank 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

10-16-2007, 05:13 PM	#165 (permalink)
Bwlr Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: I give up. Posts: 1,123 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: The MANTIS Shrimp Club! I don't use a cleanup crew. I scrape the glass with a razor blade every now and then. He's the only thing in the tank besides a few zoas, shrooms, and GSP. __________________ ~Scott

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