Attaching Corals to rocks

michael_cb_125 · 04-07-2007, 03:49 PM

I feel knida stupid for asking but I need to know. I have some epoxy made by marine land. Its called Hold fast epoxy stick. Can I just mix it put it on a rock and stick the coral to it, UNDERWATER. It says "can be applied underwater" Nut I just wanted to make shure, and see if anyone else has used this product. Thanks.

burning2nd · 04-07-2007, 04:11 PM

I dont know...

i guess if the direction say it can be applied underwater.. then thats the ticket....

Ive never used any of that... I simply weg it in a crack. or hold it down with a shell.. or pin it with something....

But then ageian, ive almost lost new frags because they fell off and almost died b4....

so

Id would guess that you should mix it put it on what ever your holding in your hand, then place it where you want it, hold it for a second, and i should stay there .......RIght?

michael_cb_125 · 04-07-2007, 04:13 PM

Thats what I thought, It is like putty. Maybe others will chime in.

mps9506 · 04-07-2007, 04:24 PM

You can apply it underwater, but it is easier to do out of water. The key to using epoxy is remembering that it is not sticky, it doesn't really work well as an adhesive.
Mix up the epoxy, usually more than you think you need. Thentake your peice of live rock and cram the epoxy into the crevice/crack or area you wish to place the coral (keep in mind this doesn't work as well on smooth flatter areas) then take the bottom of the coral and wedge it into the built up area of epoxy. Usually at this point you have to push the epoxy back onto the base of the coral to help secure it a bit.
This stuff works best with stony corals that have a base, ie; sps corals, euphyllias, etc. Things like polyps, leathers etc are best attached other ways unless they are already on a small rock base that you can use to attach to the rock.

Snelly40 · 04-07-2007, 04:26 PM

i just use superglue gel, will hold and bond uinder the water and no toxic worries.
there is s new product from loctite, well its nwe to me, called extreme repair and it has an aquarium on the front of the packagind sayinf aquarium safe, so you know its good

burning2nd · 04-07-2007, 04:30 PM

hey i beleave it.....

IVe bin trying to tell people for a while that the silicon they sell at LFS for double the price is the same exsact stuff as what permatex sells at the local auto part store....

michael_cb_125 · 04-07-2007, 06:40 PM

Thanks for the help

SueT · 04-07-2007, 06:46 PM

I usually end up using both the epoxy and super glue gel. It holds very well and nothing can knock whatever you gle/epoxy over. Turbo snails haven't a chance. LOL.. I make a small epoxy piece and glue gel the frag to the epoxy and then glue the epoxy to the spot on the rock. It will hold forever.

Snelly40 · 04-07-2007, 06:47 PM

where are u getting reed safe epoxy???

mps9506 · 04-07-2007, 07:01 PM

Home Depot sells a two part epoxy called Aquamend which is what I use.

michael_cb_125 · 04-07-2007, 08:37 PM

I get mine from drs foster and smith.com

04-07-2007, 03:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,772 View Gallery Karma Komment	Attaching Corals to rocks I feel knida stupid for asking but I need to know. I have some epoxy made by marine land. Its called Hold fast epoxy stick. Can I just mix it put it on a rock and stick the coral to it, UNDERWATER. It says "can be applied underwater" Nut I just wanted to make shure, and see if anyone else has used this product. Thanks. __________________ Elos System 70 Angel Reef (up and Running) Megan's Elos Mini Reef (up and running as well) ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

04-07-2007, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pocono PA Posts: 2,037 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks I dont know... i guess if the direction say it can be applied underwater.. then thats the ticket.... Ive never used any of that... I simply weg it in a crack. or hold it down with a shell.. or pin it with something.... But then ageian, ive almost lost new frags because they fell off and almost died b4.... so Id would guess that you should mix it put it on what ever your holding in your hand, then place it where you want it, hold it for a second, and i should stay there .......RIght? __________________ ________________________________________________ 30g, 10g DIY sump w/ mag7 Csr90 over flow. 36" sunpod 2x150 2 Tunze 6020 40 Lb's Live Rock 20 lb's of Ls Aqua C REmora mIxed reef, softies, pora's, clams, 1 Amphiprion ocellaris (hosting GTA) 2 cromies and one dragon jake the jedi sexy shrimp, and brown bob

04-07-2007, 04:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,772 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks Thats what I thought, It is like putty. Maybe others will chime in. __________________ Elos System 70 Angel Reef (up and Running) Megan's Elos Mini Reef (up and running as well) ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

04-07-2007, 04:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks You can apply it underwater, but it is easier to do out of water. The key to using epoxy is remembering that it is not sticky, it doesn't really work well as an adhesive. Mix up the epoxy, usually more than you think you need. Thentake your peice of live rock and cram the epoxy into the crevice/crack or area you wish to place the coral (keep in mind this doesn't work as well on smooth flatter areas) then take the bottom of the coral and wedge it into the built up area of epoxy. Usually at this point you have to push the epoxy back onto the base of the coral to help secure it a bit. This stuff works best with stony corals that have a base, ie; sps corals, euphyllias, etc. Things like polyps, leathers etc are best attached other ways unless they are already on a small rock base that you can use to attach to the rock. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

04-07-2007, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Snelly40 Manta Ray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,043 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks i just use superglue gel, will hold and bond uinder the water and no toxic worries. there is s new product from loctite, well its nwe to me, called extreme repair and it has an aquarium on the front of the packagind sayinf aquarium safe, so you know its good __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

04-07-2007, 04:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pocono PA Posts: 2,037 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks hey i beleave it..... IVe bin trying to tell people for a while that the silicon they sell at LFS for double the price is the same exsact stuff as what permatex sells at the local auto part store.... __________________ ________________________________________________ 30g, 10g DIY sump w/ mag7 Csr90 over flow. 36" sunpod 2x150 2 Tunze 6020 40 Lb's Live Rock 20 lb's of Ls Aqua C REmora mIxed reef, softies, pora's, clams, 1 Amphiprion ocellaris (hosting GTA) 2 cromies and one dragon jake the jedi sexy shrimp, and brown bob

04-07-2007, 06:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,772 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks Thanks for the help __________________ Elos System 70 Angel Reef (up and Running) Megan's Elos Mini Reef (up and running as well) ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

04-07-2007, 06:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
SueT Neon dottyback Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 650 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks I usually end up using both the epoxy and super glue gel. It holds very well and nothing can knock whatever you gle/epoxy over. Turbo snails haven't a chance. LOL.. I make a small epoxy piece and glue gel the frag to the epoxy and then glue the epoxy to the spot on the rock. It will hold forever. __________________ 120g sps/clam tank: http://berlinmethod.com/suet/ 2x250w 10k reeflux, actinic supplementation, mag12 return, 2 mjmods-1200, 2 mj1200 on wavemaker, kalk drip, ASM G3, 75+ spp. of acropora and montipora plating & encrusting sp. http://clamsdirect.com/phpbb2/

04-07-2007, 06:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Snelly40 Manta Ray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,043 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks where are u getting reed safe epoxy??? __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

04-07-2007, 07:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks Home Depot sells a two part epoxy called Aquamend which is what I use. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

04-07-2007, 08:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,772 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Attaching Corals to rocks I get mine from drs foster and smith.com __________________ Elos System 70 Angel Reef (up and Running) Megan's Elos Mini Reef (up and running as well) ~The less people speak of their greatness, the more we think of it.~ (Lord Bacon)

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