Nano + Rock

BigAl07 · 03-02-2007, 11:08 AM

I currently have a glass rect 10g set up at home (SW) and am now waiting to get the "Nano 12g Delux" to put here on my desk at work. My home tank is VERY simple in design (no LR and only a FrogSpawn for live coral) so I want my office tank to have more "WOW" to it. I have seen many pics on the web of Nano 12g cube that look pretty cool full of rock. The LFS doesn't deal with any LR and he has limited experience in it. I am looking to get some LR in my new NANO but really don't know which way to turn. Just random searches on Google lead to conflicting information so the more I research the more confused I am. How do I know how much, what type and what the recommended curing procedure is. I have seen everything from "lightly rinse and place it in your new tank" all the way up to "put it into a rubbermaid trash can for 4 weeks with no light, scrub every 4 days and keep heat and high circulation on it". That's a BROAD range to say the least. While on this topic, what's the "word" on Primed Cured Live rock which I see advertised all over the place lately?

Sincerely,
Allen the reef wannabe

deaclauderdale · 03-02-2007, 12:50 PM

Since the tank is for your office you probally don't want uncured liverock. On the other hand most vendors online sell their stock by the 50 pound weight class minimum. Where do you live? a search on google for LFS's in your surrounding area might yield better results. If you happen to be in So. Cal I know a guy who sells live (cured) rock at a very nice right and you could PM me and I would hook you guys up. Rule of thumb is at least 1pound (preferably 2) per gallon of water i.e.. 14 gallon tank, 14 pounds (or 28) of liverock. Fiji and Marshall Island are the best very porous and light so you can have more rock in the tank (less porous more water displacement) and it provideds a better base for bacterial growth. This is just the tip of the iceberg and alot of what you do is based on prefrence and pocket book.

saltwaterfarm · 03-02-2007, 12:53 PM

Looking for "rock rubble" or "nano rubble" might also help for that size tank.

blue_eyes53813 · 03-02-2007, 02:36 PM

Where you from? Might be some reefers on here in your area that can spare some small pieces for you. ?

blue_eyes53813 · 03-02-2007, 02:39 PM

I just found this for you .. Marine depot is great..

http://www.marinedepotlive.com/fiprquunnali.html

BigAl07 · 03-02-2007, 04:34 PM

Thanks group. I'm from Western North Carolina (near Asheville, NC). I've looked around at the LFS and no one really deals much with any LR. I live WAY up in the mountains and freshwater is the mainstay so I may be venturing into relatively unchartered territory as far as our local area goes.

Allen

deaclauderdale · 03-02-2007, 05:22 PM

Thank God for online vendors. I will talk to my buddy and see if he would be willing to ship your way he only charges $3 per pound for fiji.

BigAl07 · 03-03-2007, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deaclauderdale

Thank God for online vendors. I will talk to my buddy and see if he would be willing to ship your way he only charges $3 per pound for fiji.

Oh man that would be SWEET! Check with him and let me know. That would ROCK (pun intended

)

Allen

BigAl07 · 03-03-2007, 06:50 PM

Was doing some research and found this link
http://www.aquariumarts.com/liverock.html

It seems that rock is indeed cured (which is ideal since I can't do this in my office). Anyone heard anything pro or con about this?

Allen

Devilboy · 03-03-2007, 07:46 PM

BigAl,

I know of a great place that sells Nano Live Rock. I dont know if i can post the link here. This is the same place i got my Marshall and Kaelini rock from. And they do not kill your pocket book on prices or in shipping like alot of companies do.

If your intrested send me a PM and i will give you the link

lcstorc · 03-03-2007, 10:00 PM

You can post the link devilboy. No problem with that. We love our sponsors but you can post links to a non-sponsor.

Devilboy · 03-03-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

You can post the link devilboy. No problem with that. We love our sponsors but you can post links to a non-sponsor.

ok thanks... here is the link.

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch..._Code=Liverock

BigAl07 · 03-03-2007, 11:48 PM

Wow thanks for that link. I think I know where I'll be buying my rock AND My Nano 12g Deluxe tank from. Thanks a ton!

Now to know what kind, how much and .......

so much to learn

Thanks to EVERYONE!

Al

billyr98 · 03-03-2007, 11:53 PM

even though rock is called cured from an online vendor, in the traveling to your house... you will get die off and still will not be totally cured when it arrives to your house.. Although the ammonia spikes may be smaller, they will still occue..

BigAl07 · 03-04-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyr98

even though rock is called cured from an online vendor, in the traveling to your house... you will get die off and still will not be totally cured when it arrives to your house.. Although the ammonia spikes may be smaller, they will still occue..

So what would be an "expected" curing procedure? I mean would it just be a short "Curing" period or just a slightly elevated Amn level? In this particular situation it would be going into a brand spank Me new tank so I "could" cure it if I had to but the less the curing the better especially since this would be my first venture into any type of LR other than the small piece of was able to acquire at the LFS from the owner's personal tank. It's a piece that was "extra" that he was going to just get rid of and I happened to be at the right place at the right time.

thanks for the advice! Every time I log on here I learn more and more

Al

03-02-2007, 11:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Nano + Rock I currently have a glass rect 10g set up at home (SW) and am now waiting to get the "Nano 12g Delux" to put here on my desk at work. My home tank is VERY simple in design (no LR and only a FrogSpawn for live coral) so I want my office tank to have more "WOW" to it. I have seen many pics on the web of Nano 12g cube that look pretty cool full of rock. The LFS doesn't deal with any LR and he has limited experience in it. I am looking to get some LR in my new NANO but really don't know which way to turn. Just random searches on Google lead to conflicting information so the more I research the more confused I am. How do I know how much, what type and what the recommended curing procedure is. I have seen everything from "lightly rinse and place it in your new tank" all the way up to "put it into a rubbermaid trash can for 4 weeks with no light, scrub every 4 days and keep heat and high circulation on it". That's a BROAD range to say the least. While on this topic, what's the "word" on Primed Cured Live rock which I see advertised all over the place lately? Sincerely, Allen the reef wannabe

03-02-2007, 12:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
deaclauderdale Posting & Toasting! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lancaster,California Posts: 2,095 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Since the tank is for your office you probally don't want uncured liverock. On the other hand most vendors online sell their stock by the 50 pound weight class minimum. Where do you live? a search on google for LFS's in your surrounding area might yield better results. If you happen to be in So. Cal I know a guy who sells live (cured) rock at a very nice right and you could PM me and I would hook you guys up. Rule of thumb is at least 1pound (preferably 2) per gallon of water i.e.. 14 gallon tank, 14 pounds (or 28) of liverock. Fiji and Marshall Island are the best very porous and light so you can have more rock in the tank (less porous more water displacement) and it provideds a better base for bacterial growth. This is just the tip of the iceberg and alot of what you do is based on prefrence and pocket book. __________________ 100 Gal w/ 55 Gal Sump, (2) 250 watt MH's, 220 watts VHO, Fish: Lawnmower Blenny, Pair Ocellaris Clowns, Royal Gramma, Yellow Watchman Goby, Rainsford Goby Coral: Neon Green Candycane, Brown Candy Cane, Purple and Blue Candycane, GSP-green, Palythoas, Montipora Digita (Green and Purple), Montipora Nodosa, Acro's, Neon Green Favia, Sun Coral, Cynaria, Zoanthids Shrimp: Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, 2 Peppermint Shrimp, Tiger Pistol Shrimp Clam: (2) Crocea, That's what I love about saltwater tanks. You get God's best!!

03-02-2007, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
saltwaterfarm Manta Ray Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,222 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Looking for "rock rubble" or "nano rubble" might also help for that size tank. __________________ Lisa 90 Gal AGA, DIY Sump/Fuge, Current Outer Orbit 250w MH's with T5's. AquaC Remora Pro Skimmer, RK2.[/font] Purple LTA, pair of Percula Clowns, Clams, Softies, Shrooms, Ricordea, Echinophyllia, Torch, Frogspawn, Blastos, Sponges, Acro, Wellso, the NEW Zoa Mountain, and some more stuff... 3 Gal Sexy Shrimp Pico. 29 Gal Oceanic BioCube, Current Sunpod 150w MH.

03-02-2007, 02:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,927 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Where you from? Might be some reefers on here in your area that can spare some small pieces for you. ? __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

03-02-2007, 02:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,927 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock I just found this for you .. Marine depot is great.. http://www.marinedepotlive.com/fiprquunnali.html __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

03-02-2007, 04:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Thanks group. I'm from Western North Carolina (near Asheville, NC). I've looked around at the LFS and no one really deals much with any LR. I live WAY up in the mountains and freshwater is the mainstay so I may be venturing into relatively unchartered territory as far as our local area goes. Allen

03-02-2007, 05:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
deaclauderdale Posting & Toasting! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lancaster,California Posts: 2,095 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Thank God for online vendors. I will talk to my buddy and see if he would be willing to ship your way he only charges $3 per pound for fiji. __________________ 100 Gal w/ 55 Gal Sump, (2) 250 watt MH's, 220 watts VHO, Fish: Lawnmower Blenny, Pair Ocellaris Clowns, Royal Gramma, Yellow Watchman Goby, Rainsford Goby Coral: Neon Green Candycane, Brown Candy Cane, Purple and Blue Candycane, GSP-green, Palythoas, Montipora Digita (Green and Purple), Montipora Nodosa, Acro's, Neon Green Favia, Sun Coral, Cynaria, Zoanthids Shrimp: Skunk Cleaner Shrimp, 2 Peppermint Shrimp, Tiger Pistol Shrimp Clam: (2) Crocea, That's what I love about saltwater tanks. You get God's best!!

03-03-2007, 06:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Was doing some research and found this link http://www.aquariumarts.com/liverock.html It seems that rock is indeed cured (which is ideal since I can't do this in my office). Anyone heard anything pro or con about this? Allen

03-03-2007, 07:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Devilboy Serpent Star Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 202 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Nano + Rock BigAl, I know of a great place that sells Nano Live Rock. I dont know if i can post the link here. This is the same place i got my Marshall and Kaelini rock from. And they do not kill your pocket book on prices or in shipping like alot of companies do. If your intrested send me a PM and i will give you the link __________________ 75g RR w/20g sump, Panworld 50PX Return pump Reef Octopus NW200 Skimmer 50# Kaelini, 50# Marshall Island rock

03-03-2007, 10:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,940 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock You can post the link devilboy. No problem with that. We love our sponsors but you can post links to a non-sponsor. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

03-03-2007, 11:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock Wow thanks for that link. I think I know where I'll be buying my rock AND My Nano 12g Deluxe tank from. Thanks a ton! Now to know what kind, how much and ....... so much to learn Thanks to EVERYONE! Al

03-03-2007, 11:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
billyr98 Reefing Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 5,400 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Nano + Rock even though rock is called cured from an online vendor, in the traveling to your house... you will get die off and still will not be totally cured when it arrives to your house.. Although the ammonia spikes may be smaller, they will still occue.. __________________ Billyr98 -=NJRC Treasurer=- My 450g Reef Tank ~~~ Its HERE!!!

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