changes.. ch ch changes!

rDr4g0n · 02-28-2007, 10:59 PM

welp if you guys know me, you may know ive been planning to get lionfish. welp the LFS ordered me 2 antennata lions that absolutly gorgeous!!!!! but on the other hand, my wife and i have become attached to our cute, albeit stupid, cardinals!

so heres the plan. instead of my overflow overflowing into the sump, i want to have it overflow into another tank. I will set up a 10 gallon tank with a nice deep sand bed just for my cardinals, as well as whatever i may want to add laters. The deep sand bed, and teh extra live rock space will make it sorta like a "show" refugium. then that tank will overflow into the sump.

since my sump currently has the fuge built into it, i will redo the dividers. this time ill set up baffles and just make it 2 chambers.

so ill have the main tank that overflows into a smaller tank, that overflows into the sump, and is pumped back up to the main tank. ill house my lions, and corals in the main tank, and my cardinals in the smaller tank.

how does this sound to you all? problems? advice? love? pants?

Dragon Wrasse · 02-28-2007, 11:15 PM

Sounds like a plan.....my SPS tank has a show Refugium, thats were my brittle stars and my Dwarf Lion hangs out....its cool because my lights are on opposit cycles, so when the main tank starts to shut down for the night the Refugium starts to kick up.....its a never ending show in the living room. Go for it.....

sasquatch · 02-28-2007, 11:17 PM

Dont see why not, what you got for lighting?

Dragon Wrasse · 02-28-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sasquatch

Dont see why not, what you got for lighting?

Good question.....what are you going to use???

JFK_Jr · 03-01-2007, 05:05 AM

Where will the Cardinal tank be situated in comparison to the main tank and the sump?

I'm thinking... you're 10 gallon Cardinal tank will need to have an overflow built in so it doesn't completely drain itself dry when the pump is not running. I'm no expert in plumbing, but I would be concerned with bulkhead sizes and flow rates... you wouldn't want a tank overflowing disaster.

Definitely research more... maybe others here have done what you are talking about and can give you specifics.

Just some "fish for thought"...

rDr4g0n · 03-01-2007, 09:08 AM

for lighting i will get a regular ol NO flourescent since the cardinal tank will be just for fishies. one day ill upgrade my main tank lighting... im leaning more towards VHO and T5s now though instead of MH (the heat is a big issue because where i live it gets HOT)

i was planning to have a hole drilled into the 10 gallon and a piece of glass glued into a corner to make one of those built in overflow corner thingies. by my ultra intelligent calculations, just as long as the bulkhead can move more water than the overflow introduces there wont be a flood (since teh overflow can only overflow at the same rate that it receives water.) does that sound about right or am i not accounting for something? i was planning to do a 1inch bulkhead on the 10 gallon btw. the overflow box in teh main tank has a 1 inch bulkhead, but i have it reduced to 3/4 flexible tubing. when i replumb, i will switch that over to rigid tubing.

Dragon Wrasse · 03-01-2007, 10:20 AM

This looks like it would work.......
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...1&N=2004&Nty=1

rDr4g0n · 03-01-2007, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Wrasse

This looks like it would work.......
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...1&N=2004&Nty=1

well thats exactly what i need... id still have to drill my own holes though. I dont think i could justify the $50 expense with the wife though.

Woodstock · 03-01-2007, 11:48 AM

Antennata's!!!! I love those lionfish!

Super personalities and beautiful!! I had one that passed away from 'lockjaw' and the second which was in my reef for a few months was sold to a LFS because it went on a killing spree and ate two fish in my tank then was trying to eat my cleaner shrimp

I miss my lion really, really bad

Make sure you feed it a variety of foods (thawed squid, krill, shrimp pieces, silversides, etc) and feed it every 2-3 days.

rDr4g0n · 03-01-2007, 03:15 PM

well i got a 10 gallon tank for $10. it was hard to resist getting a 20 long because they look soooo good. so ive either gotta find a glass place to drill my drain hole, or *gasp* drill it myself!!! DUN DUN DAAAAAAAAA

Dragon Wrasse · 03-01-2007, 04:52 PM

If you have to go it alone......Good luck to you......

rDr4g0n · 03-01-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Wrasse

If you have to go it alone......Good luck to you......

thank you kind sir *salutes* i will voyage into the unkown and emerge victorious! or not emerge at all...

Dragon Wrasse · 03-01-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rDr4g0n

thank you kind sir *salutes* i will voyage into the unkown and emerge victorious! or not emerge at all...

Make it so, number one.........

aquaman3680 · 03-01-2007, 05:53 PM

I am actually planning on doing the same thing... mine will be 20 gallons and i am going to make it a show fuge with seahorses and some other symbiotic pairs... Here is a picture on how I plan on doing it.

obviously yours will be different as you will have different size tanks but i think it gets the idea across...

Matt

Cassette87 · 03-01-2007, 06:08 PM

sounds like a cool idea... cant wait to see some photos! Good Luck!

02-28-2007, 10:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
rDr4g0n Elegance coral Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south texas Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	changes.. ch ch changes! welp if you guys know me, you may know ive been planning to get lionfish. welp the LFS ordered me 2 antennata lions that absolutly gorgeous!!!!! but on the other hand, my wife and i have become attached to our cute, albeit stupid, cardinals! so heres the plan. instead of my overflow overflowing into the sump, i want to have it overflow into another tank. I will set up a 10 gallon tank with a nice deep sand bed just for my cardinals, as well as whatever i may want to add laters. The deep sand bed, and teh extra live rock space will make it sorta like a "show" refugium. then that tank will overflow into the sump. since my sump currently has the fuge built into it, i will redo the dividers. this time ill set up baffles and just make it 2 chambers. so ill have the main tank that overflows into a smaller tank, that overflows into the sump, and is pumped back up to the main tank. ill house my lions, and corals in the main tank, and my cardinals in the smaller tank. how does this sound to you all? problems? advice? love? pants? __________________ I know there are quite a few typos in this post. It's not that I'm stupid... it's more like... I'm lazy. - John My 29 Gallon tank of AWESOME My DIY Projects: My $50, 150watt lighting • 10 gallon tall tank • Hood for my 10gal. tall my r0xx0r DIY protein skimmer • 2 cheap strip lights into 1 • Grow cyano!?

02-28-2007, 11:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dragon Wrasse Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 991 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! Sounds like a plan.....my SPS tank has a show Refugium, thats were my brittle stars and my Dwarf Lion hangs out....its cool because my lights are on opposit cycles, so when the main tank starts to shut down for the night the Refugium starts to kick up.....its a never ending show in the living room. Go for it..... __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting

02-28-2007, 11:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! Dont see why not, what you got for lighting? __________________ castawayreefers.com

03-01-2007, 05:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
JFK_Jr Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hallandale Beach FL Posts: 2,108 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! Where will the Cardinal tank be situated in comparison to the main tank and the sump? I'm thinking... you're 10 gallon Cardinal tank will need to have an overflow built in so it doesn't completely drain itself dry when the pump is not running. I'm no expert in plumbing, but I would be concerned with bulkhead sizes and flow rates... you wouldn't want a tank overflowing disaster. Definitely research more... maybe others here have done what you are talking about and can give you specifics. Just some "fish for thought"... __________________ *JFK_Jr's 150 Gallon Starphire*

03-01-2007, 09:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
rDr4g0n Elegance coral Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south texas Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! for lighting i will get a regular ol NO flourescent since the cardinal tank will be just for fishies. one day ill upgrade my main tank lighting... im leaning more towards VHO and T5s now though instead of MH (the heat is a big issue because where i live it gets HOT) i was planning to have a hole drilled into the 10 gallon and a piece of glass glued into a corner to make one of those built in overflow corner thingies. by my ultra intelligent calculations, just as long as the bulkhead can move more water than the overflow introduces there wont be a flood (since teh overflow can only overflow at the same rate that it receives water.) does that sound about right or am i not accounting for something? i was planning to do a 1inch bulkhead on the 10 gallon btw. the overflow box in teh main tank has a 1 inch bulkhead, but i have it reduced to 3/4 flexible tubing. when i replumb, i will switch that over to rigid tubing. __________________ I know there are quite a few typos in this post. It's not that I'm stupid... it's more like... I'm lazy. - John My 29 Gallon tank of AWESOME My DIY Projects: My $50, 150watt lighting • 10 gallon tall tank • Hood for my 10gal. tall my r0xx0r DIY protein skimmer • 2 cheap strip lights into 1 • Grow cyano!?

03-01-2007, 10:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dragon Wrasse Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 991 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! This looks like it would work....... http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...1&N=2004&Nty=1 __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting

03-01-2007, 11:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,264 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! Antennata's!!!! I love those lionfish! Super personalities and beautiful!! I had one that passed away from 'lockjaw' and the second which was in my reef for a few months was sold to a LFS because it went on a killing spree and ate two fish in my tank then was trying to eat my cleaner shrimp I miss my lion really, really bad Make sure you feed it a variety of foods (thawed squid, krill, shrimp pieces, silversides, etc) and feed it every 2-3 days. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

03-01-2007, 03:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
rDr4g0n Elegance coral Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south texas Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! well i got a 10 gallon tank for $10. it was hard to resist getting a 20 long because they look soooo good. so ive either gotta find a glass place to drill my drain hole, or gasp drill it myself!!! DUN DUN DAAAAAAAAA __________________ I know there are quite a few typos in this post. It's not that I'm stupid... it's more like... I'm lazy. - John My 29 Gallon tank of AWESOME My DIY Projects: My $50, 150watt lighting • 10 gallon tall tank • Hood for my 10gal. tall my r0xx0r DIY protein skimmer • 2 cheap strip lights into 1 • Grow cyano!?

03-01-2007, 04:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dragon Wrasse Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 991 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! If you have to go it alone......Good luck to you...... __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting

03-01-2007, 05:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
aquaman3680 Golden Moray Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 2,133 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! I am actually planning on doing the same thing... mine will be 20 gallons and i am going to make it a show fuge with seahorses and some other symbiotic pairs... Here is a picture on how I plan on doing it. obviously yours will be different as you will have different size tanks but i think it gets the idea across... Matt __________________ Check it out! The 90 gallon Road Trip

03-01-2007, 06:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cassette87 Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Palos Park, IL Posts: 1,415 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: changes.. ch ch changes! sounds like a cool idea... cant wait to see some photos! Good Luck! __________________ Andy My 29 Gallon Reef! My DIY LED Lights Current Status - Camping - Back 7/21/08 I'm still around people, just on a sort of "summer-time leave" Feel free to PM or e-mail me for any needs!

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