mandarin goby

munki · 02-28-2007, 10:15 PM

i know that you all are going to say that its not the healthiest thing but could i get a mandarin goby if i know that it will eat brine shrimp? and i think i read that mysis shrimp is healthier so if it eats brine shouldnt it eat mysis?
thanks

lcstorc · 02-28-2007, 10:31 PM

They are completely different. Brine has almost no nutrition and will not sustain life for any length of time. Even if you get the mandarin to eat mysis it still needs pods to survive. I would not do it without a well established system, preferrably a large one with a refugium. I know they are beautiful but unless you want to watch it slowly starve it is best left in the store.
If you do get it buy bottled live pods to try to seed your system.

Dragon Wrasse · 02-28-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lcstorc

They are completely different. Brine has almost no nutrition and will not sustain life for any length of time. Even if you get the mandarin to eat mysis it still needs pods to survive. I would not do it without a well established system, preferrably a large one with a refugium. I know they are beautiful but unless you want to watch it slowly starve it is best left in the store.
If you do get it buy bottled live pods to try to seed your system.

Totally agree, Mandarin's need live Pods to survive, an established Refugium will grow pods also......I never had to seed my tank, they just started up in the Refugium.

munki · 02-28-2007, 11:12 PM

this guy uses fish food
http://www.melevsreef.com/mandarin_diner.html

Dragon Wrasse · 02-28-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by munki

this guy uses fish food
http://www.melevsreef.com/mandarin_diner.html

Couldn't view the link......

munki · 02-28-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Wrasse

Couldn't view the link......

i can i just clicked on it and it worked.
anyone else have this problem?

Dragon Wrasse · 02-28-2007, 11:26 PM

Must be my work PC.....Big Brother is watching.

I Still think a Mandarin is going to need live Pods.....

munki · 02-28-2007, 11:58 PM

yea i shouldnt risk it right now. thank you for your time. but in the future could i just get a large helping of chaeto and a bottle of pods and maybe the pods could do their thing in the macro then could i get a mandarin?

rDr4g0n · 03-01-2007, 09:15 AM

the quite controversial MANDARIN GOBY thats a thread i started a week or 2 ago about mandarins. i want one really bad too, but ive just resigned to not being able to get one untill i get a bigger tank.

blue_eyes53813 · 03-01-2007, 09:22 AM

Munki it is great that you are doing your research on mandarins before adding one into your system... actually same to you rDr4Gon (thats a hard name to type lol ).. in time you will beable to add one.. Yes you could add pods from and existing system and in time you will have ALOT of them... Good luck

Warnberg · 03-01-2007, 09:42 AM

Do not be surprised if you add a mandarin to your tank even with pods and it dies. Once they are on the road to starvation (which in my opinion most are) it is very very difficult to get them back.

SueT · 03-01-2007, 09:53 AM

I agree with Dave.. once these fish are starving it is very hard to get them back. I have one that if I'd of known it was paper thin I'd of shot the guy that gave it to me. Thankfully it has come back with gusto. BUT I would of never taken it if I'd of seen it first. These awesome fish have got to have pods and tons of them as they graze all day long in search for that illusive pod meal. The size of the tank also plays into the situation. The bigger the tank, the more live rock, the better options for pods to populate.

Warnberg · 03-01-2007, 10:01 AM

I lost one within 2 months in my 240, with 300 lbs of live rock in it.... Chalked it up to poor health when I got it.. found a healthy specimen from my LFS, 14 months later she is still going strong and actually eats frozen cyclopeeze and flake when it floats by. I found that these fish can be taught to take flake, shrimp, cyclopeeze if you have lots of time and patients... the key is to get the food to bounce slowly right in front of them without spooking the fish...

blue_eyes53813 · 03-01-2007, 10:04 AM

That is a good point.. If the belly is pinched or the manadrin looks thin , the odds of gettting them to eat is very rare...

SueT · 03-01-2007, 06:00 PM

thats why I totally freaked when these guys brought this mandarin over to me. It was beyond pinched. All there was was this big headed fish with no body. They had it in their sump cause some other fish was fighting with it. How or why this fish made it and is now a fat and sassy gorgeous fish I do not know. It eats everything in sight. Which is what I have to attribute it to. I was not about to send it back home with them so I took it thinking if it's gonna die it'll have half a chance. Thankfully it began eating immediately and has now been with me for over 6 months. They still wonder over it when they come to visit.

02-28-2007, 10:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	mandarin goby i know that you all are going to say that its not the healthiest thing but could i get a mandarin goby if i know that it will eat brine shrimp? and i think i read that mysis shrimp is healthier so if it eats brine shouldnt it eat mysis? thanks

02-28-2007, 10:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 19,905 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mandarin goby They are completely different. Brine has almost no nutrition and will not sustain life for any length of time. Even if you get the mandarin to eat mysis it still needs pods to survive. I would not do it without a well established system, preferrably a large one with a refugium. I know they are beautiful but unless you want to watch it slowly starve it is best left in the store. If you do get it buy bottled live pods to try to seed your system. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

02-28-2007, 11:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mandarin goby this guy uses fish food http://www.melevsreef.com/mandarin_diner.html

02-28-2007, 11:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dragon Wrasse Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 991 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mandarin goby Must be my work PC.....Big Brother is watching. I Still think a Mandarin is going to need live Pods..... __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting

02-28-2007, 11:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mandarin goby yea i shouldnt risk it right now. thank you for your time. but in the future could i just get a large helping of chaeto and a bottle of pods and maybe the pods could do their thing in the macro then could i get a mandarin?

03-01-2007, 09:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
rDr4g0n Elegance coral Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south texas Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mandarin goby the quite controversial MANDARIN GOBY thats a thread i started a week or 2 ago about mandarins. i want one really bad too, but ive just resigned to not being able to get one untill i get a bigger tank. __________________ I know there are quite a few typos in this post. It's not that I'm stupid... it's more like... I'm lazy. - John My 29 Gallon tank of AWESOME My DIY Projects: My $50, 150watt lighting • 10 gallon tall tank • Hood for my 10gal. tall my r0xx0r DIY protein skimmer • 2 cheap strip lights into 1 • Grow cyano!?

03-01-2007, 09:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,590 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mandarin goby Munki it is great that you are doing your research on mandarins before adding one into your system... actually same to you rDr4Gon (thats a hard name to type lol ).. in time you will beable to add one.. Yes you could add pods from and existing system and in time you will have ALOT of them... Good luck __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

03-01-2007, 09:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mandarin goby Do not be surprised if you add a mandarin to your tank even with pods and it dies. Once they are on the road to starvation (which in my opinion most are) it is very very difficult to get them back. __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

03-01-2007, 09:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
SueT Neon dottyback Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 650 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mandarin goby I agree with Dave.. once these fish are starving it is very hard to get them back. I have one that if I'd of known it was paper thin I'd of shot the guy that gave it to me. Thankfully it has come back with gusto. BUT I would of never taken it if I'd of seen it first. These awesome fish have got to have pods and tons of them as they graze all day long in search for that illusive pod meal. The size of the tank also plays into the situation. The bigger the tank, the more live rock, the better options for pods to populate. __________________ 120g sps/clam tank: http://berlinmethod.com/suet/ 2x250w 10k reeflux, actinic supplementation, mag12 return, 2 mjmods-1200, 2 mj1200 on wavemaker, kalk drip, ASM G3, 75+ spp. of acropora and montipora plating & encrusting sp. http://clamsdirect.com/phpbb2/

03-01-2007, 10:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mandarin goby I lost one within 2 months in my 240, with 300 lbs of live rock in it.... Chalked it up to poor health when I got it.. found a healthy specimen from my LFS, 14 months later she is still going strong and actually eats frozen cyclopeeze and flake when it floats by. I found that these fish can be taught to take flake, shrimp, cyclopeeze if you have lots of time and patients... the key is to get the food to bounce slowly right in front of them without spooking the fish... __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

03-01-2007, 10:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,590 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mandarin goby That is a good point.. If the belly is pinched or the manadrin looks thin , the odds of gettting them to eat is very rare... __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

03-01-2007, 06:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
SueT Neon dottyback Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 650 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mandarin goby thats why I totally freaked when these guys brought this mandarin over to me. It was beyond pinched. All there was was this big headed fish with no body. They had it in their sump cause some other fish was fighting with it. How or why this fish made it and is now a fat and sassy gorgeous fish I do not know. It eats everything in sight. Which is what I have to attribute it to. I was not about to send it back home with them so I took it thinking if it's gonna die it'll have half a chance. Thankfully it began eating immediately and has now been with me for over 6 months. They still wonder over it when they come to visit. __________________ 120g sps/clam tank: http://berlinmethod.com/suet/ 2x250w 10k reeflux, actinic supplementation, mag12 return, 2 mjmods-1200, 2 mj1200 on wavemaker, kalk drip, ASM G3, 75+ spp. of acropora and montipora plating & encrusting sp. http://clamsdirect.com/phpbb2/

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