mysterious wound

munki · 01-27-2007, 09:35 PM

there is what seems to be a small bite mark on the bottom side of my pearlscale butterfly fish. the only other fish in the tank is a small tomato clown. i didnt see this wound yesterday. what could it be?
thank you for your time

aquaman3680 · 01-27-2007, 09:37 PM

Tomato clowns are extremely aggressive i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't take a chunk out of it...

JMO

Matt

munki · 01-27-2007, 10:00 PM

hmmm i thought everything was ok. the clown doesnt act aggressive when the butterfly fish is close to him.
should i ldo anything or will it heal on its own?

sasquatch · 01-27-2007, 10:17 PM

Hi Munki, watch it close for infection and more bites, I really couldnt say if meds are required.Steve

munki · 01-27-2007, 10:34 PM

thank you for all the help, but what would i do if it gets infected or if i find more bites?

PhilOlsen · 01-27-2007, 11:24 PM

There are anti-biotics you can use, but you will need to turn off your skimmer and remove any carbon. How long has the pair been together, was the clown there first? They are fairly aggresive but usually more so towards other clowns.

munki · 01-27-2007, 11:38 PM

i added the butterfly on thursday and yes the clown was there first. i didnt think they would fight. i still havnt seen them fighting. they always just seem that they dont mind having a tank mate. should i just let things be for now?

lcstorc · 01-28-2007, 12:52 AM

How big is the tank? If there is enough room for the butterfly to hide, I would let it be for a day or 2 and keep a very watchful eye on them. They may settle down and be just fine after a bit of time.

munki · 01-28-2007, 01:52 AM

its a 55 g and yes he/she has hiding spots

munki · 01-28-2007, 05:23 PM

when i was looking at the tank this morning i found the butterfly dead on the bottom of the tank. he wasnt moving and he was darking in color than he was yesterday. why did he die? i have tried to put two fish in the tank with the clown. a foxface, but then he died and then the butterfly. what am i doing wrong?
thank you for your time

lcstorc · 01-28-2007, 06:39 PM

I am so sorry to hear of your losses.
Is this a new tank?
What are your water paramaters?
What are you using for filtration?

munki · 01-28-2007, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

I am so sorry to hear of your losses.
Is this a new tank?
What are your water paramaters?
What are you using for filtration?

the tank is around 4-5 months old.
ammonia,nitrate,nitrite-0, pH-8.4
i dont have anything special for filteration. this is a school project and i was told what i HAVE to get. no exceptions. so..i have a hob with an ugf and yes yes i know your going to tell me how terrible that is, but there is nothing i can do about it.
i dont know if there could be anything wrong with the tank because the clown is still alive and healthy.
i just dont know when i should get another fish. i dont want a 55g with just one juvi tomato clown

thank you for your reply

cheeks69 · 01-28-2007, 09:39 PM

Butterfly fish are very sensitive and should be only added to mature systems with excellent filtration. If you want to add some more fish to the tank then I would suggest hardier fish such as Chromis or some of the sand sifting gobies or even a hawkfish {if you don't have shrimp}.

munki · 01-28-2007, 09:48 PM

damn-then why did the foxface lo die?
what if i found a coral beuty and bought that. will that be ok?
thank you for all of your help
o also how old does a tank have to be to be mature?

cheeks69 · 01-28-2007, 09:53 PM

How much LR do you have in this tank ? Although the Coral Beauty is relatively hardy for a Dwarf Angel I wouldn't add it unless you have a good amount of well established LR.

01-27-2007, 09:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	mysterious wound there is what seems to be a small bite mark on the bottom side of my pearlscale butterfly fish. the only other fish in the tank is a small tomato clown. i didnt see this wound yesterday. what could it be? thank you for your time

01-27-2007, 09:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
aquaman3680 Golden Moray Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 2,155 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mysterious wound Tomato clowns are extremely aggressive i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't take a chunk out of it... JMO Matt __________________ Check it out! The 90 gallon Road Trip

01-27-2007, 10:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound hmmm i thought everything was ok. the clown doesnt act aggressive when the butterfly fish is close to him. should i ldo anything or will it heal on its own?

01-27-2007, 10:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mysterious wound Hi Munki, watch it close for infection and more bites, I really couldnt say if meds are required.Steve

01-27-2007, 10:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound thank you for all the help, but what would i do if it gets infected or if i find more bites?

01-27-2007, 11:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
PhilOlsen Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glendale Hts. Illinois (Chicago transplant to humor my wife) Posts: 646 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound There are anti-biotics you can use, but you will need to turn off your skimmer and remove any carbon. How long has the pair been together, was the clown there first? They are fairly aggresive but usually more so towards other clowns.

01-27-2007, 11:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound i added the butterfly on thursday and yes the clown was there first. i didnt think they would fight. i still havnt seen them fighting. they always just seem that they dont mind having a tank mate. should i just let things be for now?

01-28-2007, 12:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 21,928 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mysterious wound How big is the tank? If there is enough room for the butterfly to hide, I would let it be for a day or 2 and keep a very watchful eye on them. They may settle down and be just fine after a bit of time. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-28-2007, 01:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound its a 55 g and yes he/she has hiding spots

01-28-2007, 05:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	this sucks when i was looking at the tank this morning i found the butterfly dead on the bottom of the tank. he wasnt moving and he was darking in color than he was yesterday. why did he die? i have tried to put two fish in the tank with the clown. a foxface, but then he died and then the butterfly. what am i doing wrong? thank you for your time

01-28-2007, 06:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 21,928 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mysterious wound I am so sorry to hear of your losses. Is this a new tank? What are your water paramaters? What are you using for filtration? __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-28-2007, 09:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,032 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound Butterfly fish are very sensitive and should be only added to mature systems with excellent filtration. If you want to add some more fish to the tank then I would suggest hardier fish such as Chromis or some of the sand sifting gobies or even a hawkfish {if you don't have shrimp}. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

01-28-2007, 09:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
munki Plate Coral Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 707 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound damn-then why did the foxface lo die? what if i found a coral beuty and bought that. will that be ok? thank you for all of your help o also how old does a tank have to be to be mature?

01-28-2007, 09:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,032 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mysterious wound How much LR do you have in this tank ? Although the Coral Beauty is relatively hardy for a Dwarf Angel I wouldn't add it unless you have a good amount of well established LR. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

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