Salt Mix and Alkalinity

bluespotjawfish · 01-25-2007, 09:18 AM

I'm looking for a good salt mix that has a lower alkalinity than IO (which is around 10.9 for me). Any suggestions? Or, anyone have a link to where there is a chart to compare mixes? Seems like I saw one at one time, but can't find a good one that helps much on the alkalinity issue.

Appreciate it!

Warnberg · 01-25-2007, 09:57 AM

Alk and calcium, a higher alk usually means lower calcium and higher calcium means lower alk. Find a salt that has a higher calcium level and you will see a reduced alk level.... example is Tropic Marin Pro Reef.

When I tested it was:
Temp 80
SG 1.025
PH 8.1
Calcium 440
Alk 9.0 dKH
Mg 1400
Phos 0

Dentoid · 01-25-2007, 10:31 AM

I have been told that Oceanic has a low alkalinity and high Ca/Mg content. I can affirm this because that is the only salt I have used. My alkalinity is 8.0 my calcium is 500. In agreement with Warnberg.

bluespotjawfish · 01-25-2007, 11:01 PM

I am currently mixing IO with Oceanic based on the recommendation of a LFS. The calc is quite high in the Oceanic, and alk a bit lower than IO. Since I'm not Boomer I can't test this very well, but when I test what is going in the tant it has held true. But, the mix is still going in the tank at about 10.9 alk and 420 calc and it ain't doing much to bring the 12+ level down. Did I mention I am impatient? FIRST RULE - PATIENCE I'm sure I will eventually get there just fine, I'm just hoping for a quicker resolution. 6 months from now I'll be complaining cause it won't stay up, you just watch!

lcstorc · 01-26-2007, 08:22 PM

LOL
I am really starting to think we are twins who were separated at birth.
Go with TM Pro Reef for salt. It tests out better than anything else I have seen time after time.
Meanwhile if you need to make adjustments use the calculator to decide how much of what you need to add to make how much of a change.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html

bluespotjawfish · 01-26-2007, 09:18 PM

What the patience part? Ha, ha! Just wait til you get your sea hare and bluespot and I get my ponies!

Witfull · 01-26-2007, 09:45 PM

2 parts oceanic/1 part IO....all is good~

bluespotjawfish · 01-26-2007, 09:53 PM

And some patience too right?

lcstorc · 01-31-2007, 01:33 PM

We all need to learn patience. LOL
I certainly do.

01-25-2007, 09:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Salt Mix and Alkalinity I'm looking for a good salt mix that has a lower alkalinity than IO (which is around 10.9 for me). Any suggestions? Or, anyone have a link to where there is a chart to compare mixes? Seems like I saw one at one time, but can't find a good one that helps much on the alkalinity issue. Appreciate it! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

01-25-2007, 09:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity Alk and calcium, a higher alk usually means lower calcium and higher calcium means lower alk. Find a salt that has a higher calcium level and you will see a reduced alk level.... example is Tropic Marin Pro Reef. When I tested it was: Temp 80 SG 1.025 PH 8.1 Calcium 440 Alk 9.0 dKH Mg 1400 Phos 0 __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

01-25-2007, 10:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,240 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity I have been told that Oceanic has a low alkalinity and high Ca/Mg content. I can affirm this because that is the only salt I have used. My alkalinity is 8.0 my calcium is 500. In agreement with Warnberg. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

01-25-2007, 11:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity I am currently mixing IO with Oceanic based on the recommendation of a LFS. The calc is quite high in the Oceanic, and alk a bit lower than IO. Since I'm not Boomer I can't test this very well, but when I test what is going in the tant it has held true. But, the mix is still going in the tank at about 10.9 alk and 420 calc and it ain't doing much to bring the 12+ level down. Did I mention I am impatient? FIRST RULE - PATIENCE I'm sure I will eventually get there just fine, I'm just hoping for a quicker resolution. 6 months from now I'll be complaining cause it won't stay up, you just watch! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

01-26-2007, 08:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 19,905 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity LOL I am really starting to think we are twins who were separated at birth. Go with TM Pro Reef for salt. It tests out better than anything else I have seen time after time. Meanwhile if you need to make adjustments use the calculator to decide how much of what you need to add to make how much of a change. http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

01-26-2007, 09:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity What the patience part? Ha, ha! Just wait til you get your sea hare and bluespot and I get my ponies! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

01-26-2007, 09:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,209 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity And some patience too right? __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

01-31-2007, 01:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 19,905 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Mix and Alkalinity We all need to learn patience. LOL I certainly do. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

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