Salt Change

Warnberg · 12-04-2006, 12:56 PM

Well I fianlly did it, I have officially changed over to Tropic Marine Pro Reef from Instant Ocean and have I noticed some differances. The biggest reason for the change was the cronic low calcium levels and large ph swings I got with IO.

My PH now swings very very little 8.1 to 8.3 and everything seems MUCH happier.

cheeks69 · 12-04-2006, 01:03 PM

Dave if you could post some of the test results from the new salt ? I am interested in TM but it's been difficult to find around here that carries it, want to know if it's worth ordering on-line. TIA

Warnberg · 12-04-2006, 01:32 PM

This is Pro Reef, I understand the regular Tropic Marin is lower in Calcium but higher in alk.

This is all initial mix, only let it sit about 1 hour after reaching SG before testing:

Temp 80
SG 1.025
PH 8.1
Calcium 440
Alk 9.0 dKH
Mg 1400
Phos 0

At this point I have changed out about 120 gallons from my main display

Woodstock · 12-04-2006, 02:41 PM

DAve, I quoted your test results to this thread --> Tropic Marin Pro Reef Results

cheeks69 · 12-04-2006, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warnberg

This is Pro Reef, I understand the regular Tropic Marin is lower in Calcium but higher in alk.

This is all initial mix, only let it sit about 1 hour after reaching SG before testing:

Temp 80
SG 1.025
PH 8.1
Calcium 440
Alk 9.0 dKH
Mg 1400
Phos 0

At this point I have changed out about 120 gallons from my main display

Thanx for posting the #'s Dave. The Mag is a bit high but i'm going to try it next. The Red Sea Pro really thru my alk #'s off for some reason don't know if it was the batch or if it's a common problem.

swissgaurd · 12-04-2006, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheeks69

Thanx for posting the #'s Dave. The Mag is a bit high but i'm going to try it next. The Red Sea Pro really thru my alk #'s off for some reason don't know if it was the batch or if it's a common problem.

cheeks my alkalinity went for a wack at first it was about 12 then it dropped down to 9.9 after a couple of weeks ,have you noticed less algae on glass.

what was your alk at.

vic

cheeks69 · 12-04-2006, 11:07 PM

I don't remember exactly but believe it to be in the 6 dKH range. As far as the algae on the glass there was an increase when I was using it. I used it all up already and switched to Crystal Sea salt, my alk. is running about 10-11dKH now.

burning2nd · 12-05-2006, 07:51 AM

with my sump lighting on 27/7 my ph doesnt swing anymore

8.2 all the time

TM rocks make the switch

swissgaurd · 12-05-2006, 09:07 AM

i dont understand how values can differ from bucket to bucket what size bucket did you get,
what was your value for dkh on freshly made salt.

Warnberg · 12-05-2006, 11:44 AM

I would bet it all will depend on water chemistry, temp, etc in the area on the parms you may get when all done. It may even depend on how long the salt mix has been exposed to air (salt mixes do absorb moisture from the air, that is why they clump) I mixed mine with RO/DI water, from a 200 gallon bucket of Pro Reef. When I get to the second bucket I'll check to see if they have changed.

cheeks69 · 12-05-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swissgaurd

i dont understand how values can differ from bucket to bucket what size bucket did you get,
what was your value for dkh on freshly made salt.

I'm not sure what it was I think in the other salt thread I posted it. I was using the 170 gal bucket.

saltyfishtanks · 12-05-2006, 06:36 PM

any of the premium salts would be better than instant ocean if u use instant ocean u need to suppliment mag. cal. and possibly others

im using TM pro reef, good stuff in my opinion, RyumaDaddy? got me on the pro reef and it is not money wasted as with other salts i have tried!

billyr98 · 12-05-2006, 11:34 PM

i have been using this TM Pro Reef for months now.. I love the calc and alk and Mg results i keep getting with my reef!

deaclauderdale · 12-06-2006, 10:54 AM

Do you all have a link, I can't seem to find it locally.

Woodstock · 12-06-2006, 11:19 AM

*Best place to purchase it online*

12-04-2006, 12:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Salt Change Well I fianlly did it, I have officially changed over to Tropic Marine Pro Reef from Instant Ocean and have I noticed some differances. The biggest reason for the change was the cronic low calcium levels and large ph swings I got with IO. My PH now swings very very little 8.1 to 8.3 and everything seems MUCH happier. __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

12-04-2006, 01:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,386 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Change Dave if you could post some of the test results from the new salt ? I am interested in TM but it's been difficult to find around here that carries it, want to know if it's worth ordering on-line. TIA __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

12-04-2006, 01:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Change This is Pro Reef, I understand the regular Tropic Marin is lower in Calcium but higher in alk. This is all initial mix, only let it sit about 1 hour after reaching SG before testing: Temp 80 SG 1.025 PH 8.1 Calcium 440 Alk 9.0 dKH Mg 1400 Phos 0 At this point I have changed out about 120 gallons from my main display __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

12-04-2006, 02:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,502 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Change DAve, I quoted your test results to this thread --> Tropic Marin Pro Reef Results __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My Victorious Battle with ICH* 120 Reef Chronicle ~ *Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* *Massive 300 gal growout~* *My Anemone & Picasso Tank ~* *Picasso & Snowcasso for sale~* "Energy and persistance conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

12-04-2006, 11:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,386 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Change I don't remember exactly but believe it to be in the 6 dKH range. As far as the algae on the glass there was an increase when I was using it. I used it all up already and switched to Crystal Sea salt, my alk. is running about 10-11dKH now. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

12-05-2006, 07:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Change with my sump lighting on 27/7 my ph doesnt swing anymore 8.2 all the time TM rocks make the switch __________________ ________________________________________________ 30g, 10g DIY sump w/ mag7 Csr90 over flow. 36" sunpod 2x150 2 Tunze 6020 40 Lb's Live Rock 20 lb's of Ls Aqua C REmora mIxed reef, softies, pora's, clams, 1 Amphiprion ocellaris (hosting GTA) jake the jedi sexy shrimp, and brown bob

12-05-2006, 09:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
swissgaurd Torch coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: mississauga,canada Posts: 540 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Change i dont understand how values can differ from bucket to bucket what size bucket did you get, what was your value for dkh on freshly made salt. __________________ [SIGPIC TANK ON PRODIBO 82 gallon mixed reef, dual 250 watt 20K radium, in a PFO pendant powered by icecaps,2x 110 VHO actinics/ ice caps.approx.70 lbs indo rock.tunze top up system. junior MTC calcium reactor.ASM G3 skimmer,SWISSGAURD, powder blue tang,mated pair of GSM's,multicolor angel,green wrasse,ocean tang, sps,zoos,softies,frogspawn,mushrooms,candycane,,xe nia, nass.,astrea snails,serpant,brittle stars,sea cucumbers tank running on redsea pro.converting to D-D salt

12-05-2006, 11:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
Warnberg Acropora Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Change I would bet it all will depend on water chemistry, temp, etc in the area on the parms you may get when all done. It may even depend on how long the salt mix has been exposed to air (salt mixes do absorb moisture from the air, that is why they clump) I mixed mine with RO/DI water, from a 200 gallon bucket of Pro Reef. When I get to the second bucket I'll check to see if they have changed. __________________ Dave 240 Gallon Tall Tencor (96"L x 30"T x 18"W) 4 250 Watt MH XM10K bulbs 2-54 Watt T5 Actinic Euro-Reef CS8-2-RC Jetstream 1 Calcium Reactor 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 power heads 7095 Tunze controller

12-05-2006, 06:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
saltyfishtanks Sea Pen Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: upstate new york Posts: 308 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Salt Change any of the premium salts would be better than instant ocean if u use instant ocean u need to suppliment mag. cal. and possibly others im using TM pro reef, good stuff in my opinion, RyumaDaddy? got me on the pro reef and it is not money wasted as with other salts i have tried!

12-05-2006, 11:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
billyr98 Reefing Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 5,409 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Change i have been using this TM Pro Reef for months now.. I love the calc and alk and Mg results i keep getting with my reef! __________________ Billyr98 - I'm BACK!! -

12-06-2006, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
deaclauderdale Reefing for Jesus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lancaster,California Posts: 2,499 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Change Do you all have a link, I can't seem to find it locally. __________________ 187 Gallon Peninsula Tank (2) 250 Watt HQI That's what I love about saltwater tanks. You get God's best!!

12-06-2006, 11:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,502 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Salt Change *Best place to purchase it online* __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My Victorious Battle with ICH* 120 Reef Chronicle ~ *Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* *Massive 300 gal growout~* *My Anemone & Picasso Tank ~* *Picasso & Snowcasso for sale~* "Energy and persistance conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

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