kH levels?

Sarah03 · 11-30-2006, 11:33 PM

My tang has been kind of sick for a while now and I called the fish store and they told me that my kH levels could be affecting it. I don't know what kH levels are and I was wonder if someone could help me out? My anenome is also closed but my other fish don't seem to be affected. Any thought. Please help!

STAR RIDGE · 11-30-2006, 11:59 PM

kh is the carbonate hardness of the water. this is the buffering capacity and helps stablize the ph. this helps to minimize ph swings within the day due to photosystesis. the kh also i believe assists in the uptake of oxygen and the processing of carbon. i think it may be a stretch to say the kh is effecting you fish health. someone else may know of a relationship between the two that i am forgetting. i would get a kh test kit as it is essential for reef keeping. joe.

Craig Lambert · 12-01-2006, 12:35 AM

You should have an Alkalinity test kit. (Salifert makes an excellent one). Keep yout Alk level between 7-11 dKH. Use a two part adative like b-Ionic daily to maintain your calcium and Alkalinity levels. I also think the low ALK is not the cause of the illness, though low Alk can lead to a variety of water quality problems. It would be helpful if you posted all the tank information, ie how long its been up, contents, filtration system etc. Also include water paramaters such as Ammonia, Nitrate, and pH, as well as Alkalinity and Calcium.

sasquatch · 12-01-2006, 12:49 AM

Sarah, first things first, the whole water chemistry thing is a little confusing. Could you tell us what tests you perform? whats the salinity level and how often and how much water you change, how big is your tank and how long has it been running, once we get these things I think theres a better chance of finding a solution. Steve

Sarah03 · 12-01-2006, 10:11 AM

My tank is 32 gallons, I change 10 gallons a week, my salinity is at 1.021 My pH is around 8 and my nitrates are between 5 and 10. M ytank has been running for six or seven months now.

kyle1284 · 12-01-2006, 12:03 PM

i have been having the exact same problems with KH but keep in mind KH and Calicum run hand in hand.... so check your calcium levels and let us know!

corallimorph · 12-01-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1284

i have been having the exact same problems with KH but keep in mind KH and Calicum run hand in hand.... so check your calcium levels and let us know!

I have run many systems for many years.....and based on my personal experience have to say that i disagree 100% with the above "hand -in hand "comment...it's just not that simple,you can have high KH with low calcium and visa versa...and all kinds of combinations in between...depends on YOUR systems demands,and/or equipment,supplements,reactors,amounts of buffers,two part
suppliments,photoperiod,bioload,waterflow,watercha nges,etc......
If they went hand in hand....why would you need a second test kit?,why would anyone make one?..sorry Kyle nothing personal,i just could not stay silent on this one.-Dave

sasquatch · 12-01-2006, 09:54 PM

Hi Sarah, ok well I think 100 % water change a month is TOO much, 10 to 20 % is a good place to start, at this point please go on a mission, your mission should you choose to accept it is this, take 1 qt of tank water to your lfs and have every test done that they can do, report back with the results and we'll go thru it step by step OK? Steve

11-30-2006, 11:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sarah03 Fire Coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 64 View Gallery Karma Komment	kH levels? My tang has been kind of sick for a while now and I called the fish store and they told me that my kH levels could be affecting it. I don't know what kH levels are and I was wonder if someone could help me out? My anenome is also closed but my other fish don't seem to be affected. Any thought. Please help!

11-30-2006, 11:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
STAR RIDGE Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: WHISPERING PINES, NC Posts: 20 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: kH levels? kh is the carbonate hardness of the water. this is the buffering capacity and helps stablize the ph. this helps to minimize ph swings within the day due to photosystesis. the kh also i believe assists in the uptake of oxygen and the processing of carbon. i think it may be a stretch to say the kh is effecting you fish health. someone else may know of a relationship between the two that i am forgetting. i would get a kh test kit as it is essential for reef keeping. joe.

12-01-2006, 12:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Craig Lambert Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 92 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: kH levels? You should have an Alkalinity test kit. (Salifert makes an excellent one). Keep yout Alk level between 7-11 dKH. Use a two part adative like b-Ionic daily to maintain your calcium and Alkalinity levels. I also think the low ALK is not the cause of the illness, though low Alk can lead to a variety of water quality problems. It would be helpful if you posted all the tank information, ie how long its been up, contents, filtration system etc. Also include water paramaters such as Ammonia, Nitrate, and pH, as well as Alkalinity and Calcium. __________________ "Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know. Animal Crackers (1930) 75G, 4-6"dsb, 100lbs lr, 630 watts vho, AquaC EV-180

12-01-2006, 12:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: kH levels? Sarah, first things first, the whole water chemistry thing is a little confusing. Could you tell us what tests you perform? whats the salinity level and how often and how much water you change, how big is your tank and how long has it been running, once we get these things I think theres a better chance of finding a solution. Steve

12-01-2006, 10:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sarah03 Fire Coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 64 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: kH levels? My tank is 32 gallons, I change 10 gallons a week, my salinity is at 1.021 My pH is around 8 and my nitrates are between 5 and 10. M ytank has been running for six or seven months now.

12-01-2006, 12:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
kyle1284 Elegance coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 1,061 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: kH levels? i have been having the exact same problems with KH but keep in mind KH and Calicum run hand in hand.... so check your calcium levels and let us know! __________________ KYLE 75 Gal 110 Lbs Live Rock 40 Lbs of live sand Equiptment:48 Inch 4x54 T-5 true blue and 10000k lights, 2 fuvual 305 Canister Filters Mis. Mushrooms, Fan Worms, hammer coral, frog spawn, candy cane, A TON OF TRUMPET CORAL!! orange plating monti, some kind of branching monti, pom pom xeina, all kinds of zoos BRIGHT GREEN star polyps, xeina, neon green toadstool, 3 damn damsles, a foxface and a blue tang. November 1...The begining! http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../random045.jpg November 8,2008 http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ristina034.jpg My 75 GALLON BAR TOP REEF TANK! http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...n-bar-top.html

12-01-2006, 09:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: kH levels? Hi Sarah, ok well I think 100 % water change a month is TOO much, 10 to 20 % is a good place to start, at this point please go on a mission, your mission should you choose to accept it is this, take 1 qt of tank water to your lfs and have every test done that they can do, report back with the results and we'll go thru it step by step OK? Steve

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