which skimmer is better???

danfish · 10-27-2006, 01:14 PM

i need a new skimmer for my 120gal and after much reading and research i narrow it down to either the euroreef or asm are they the same? is euroreef worth the extra $ THX in advance

mps9506 · 10-27-2006, 01:27 PM

I haven't heard of anyone disappointed with ASM. I use euroreef just because I always have and was very impressed with the quality of the acrylic used in the skimmer construction. I haven't ever had an ASM to compare directly with.
I don't think you would go wrong with either.

BoomerD · 10-27-2006, 01:49 PM

No they're not the same, but similar. The "legend" is that 2 guys started Euro-Reef, and later split...one keeping EuroReef, the other starting ASM They use the same needlewheel types of pumps, (recently E/R changed brands) and ASM changed some appearance things, but still basically the same techmology used in both. The main difference, is E/R uses (used?) cell cast acrylic for it's skimmer construction, and ASM uses cheaper extruded acrylic. There are a few other minor differences as well, but they really don't affect things much as I understand it...BOTH are excellent skimmers.

boozeman · 10-27-2006, 01:53 PM

interesting story boomerd!

Warnberg · 10-27-2006, 02:00 PM

I can't compair the two, but I love my euro-reef.

JaxReef · 10-27-2006, 02:05 PM

I thought euro reef was the original (better made, more expensive) and asm is the American knock off

BoomerD · 10-27-2006, 02:11 PM

They are both american made...(or at least used to be) AFAIK...The "euro" in their name, came from styling their products after some of the European skimmers, like Deltec and H&S...

danfish · 10-27-2006, 03:09 PM

ok now that we determine that they are both good, theres another factor the euroreef is 24" and the asm is 25" and i have a max clearance 0f 26" is this enough clearance for the removal of the cup? here are the links to the two skimmers

http://www.aquamartonline.com/catalo...61/2056856.htm

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=ER1417

mps9506 · 10-27-2006, 04:13 PM

I don't think you need any extra clearance to remove either collection cup. My ER skimmer sup is an older model that has a union valve to connect it, but it doesn't need any extra height to remove the cup.

Regardless with whichever model you choose, look into doing the gate valve modification. Works great.

danfish · 10-27-2006, 04:35 PM

mps9506 can u tell me more about what a gate valve is and the purpose of it if u have a few pics that shows the valve that would be great. thx in avance

BoomerD · 10-27-2006, 08:57 PM

http://www.asmskimmer.com/modifications.htm

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mps9506 Totally back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 8,525 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? I haven't heard of anyone disappointed with ASM. I use euroreef just because I always have and was very impressed with the quality of the acrylic used in the skimmer construction. I haven't ever had an ASM to compare directly with. I don't think you would go wrong with either. __________________ Mike Reefkeeping Since '99 Help Build Reefpedia Premium Memberships Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

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BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? No they're not the same, but similar. The "legend" is that 2 guys started Euro-Reef, and later split...one keeping EuroReef, the other starting ASM They use the same needlewheel types of pumps, (recently E/R changed brands) and ASM changed some appearance things, but still basically the same techmology used in both. The main difference, is E/R uses (used?) cell cast acrylic for it's skimmer construction, and ASM uses cheaper extruded acrylic. There are a few other minor differences as well, but they really don't affect things much as I understand it...BOTH are excellent skimmers. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

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BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? They are both american made...(or at least used to be) AFAIK...The "euro" in their name, came from styling their products after some of the European skimmers, like Deltec and H&S... __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

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danfish Midas Blenny Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 85 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? ok now that we determine that they are both good, theres another factor the euroreef is 24" and the asm is 25" and i have a max clearance 0f 26" is this enough clearance for the removal of the cup? here are the links to the two skimmers http://www.aquamartonline.com/catalo...61/2056856.htm http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...product=ER1417

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mps9506 Totally back Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 8,525 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? I don't think you need any extra clearance to remove either collection cup. My ER skimmer sup is an older model that has a union valve to connect it, but it doesn't need any extra height to remove the cup. Regardless with whichever model you choose, look into doing the gate valve modification. Works great. __________________ Mike Reefkeeping Since '99 Help Build Reefpedia Premium Memberships Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

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danfish Midas Blenny Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 85 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? mps9506 can u tell me more about what a gate valve is and the purpose of it if u have a few pics that shows the valve that would be great. thx in avance

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BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer is better??? http://www.asmskimmer.com/modifications.htm __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

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