any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine

razz · 10-27-2006, 01:31 AM

my new ick has ick but he seems to be eating and still looking ok..ive leveled out my temp. and am now keeping it as close to 80 as possible with-out too many flucuations..
in the past if a tang got ick in my tang they always died,has anyone had one beat the ick..im hoping the uv and clean tank does..

BoomerD · 10-27-2006, 01:54 AM

UV can help, but won't cure ich. have you tried soaking foods in garlic? Not a cure either, but can help boost their immune system, so they can fight it off. Othewise, a well cycled quarantine tank with hyposalinity and/or medication is really the only way to kill the parasite. If the ich is in your display tank, then it would have to be kept fallow (no fish at all) for about 6 weeks.

BrothaWolf · 10-27-2006, 02:11 AM

Call me crazy but back in the day if my fish got ick I used to give em a freshwater dip... usually cleared it right up

lcstorc · 10-27-2006, 07:51 AM

My Chevron tank has shown no signs for well over a month. May be even 2. UV, garlic, and Selcon was what I used and atm still do. i will probably cut back on the uv this weekend since there is a lot of tank work on the weekend work list. it has been running 24/7 since the outbreak so I am going to cut back to 12hrs a day and if no symptoms appear after a couple of weeks turn it off.
Also on a bright note none of the rest of my fish every showed any signs of he disease.
Oh and also I am babysitting a hippo tang that apparently had a very bad case. he was treated with a freshwater dip and has been fine for quite some time. (I did not do this he is in my qt tank with several buddies waiting for his new tank to cycle and this happened long before he was here.)

das · 10-27-2006, 07:54 AM

G'day all'
between 74 and 86 we've had ours at when our Regal got ick! in a coral tank too! so we couldn't give him a dipping, though also fed reguarly eventually shook it off with no medicine- go figure just luck i suppose also nitrate idles on 40ppm in this tank with angels- go figure that one out it's 18 months old.We have burried many fish in 2yrs and it hurts me the most when its a tang so our tanks are divided now due to the past .Even though the books say fish death is due to human error some things are just out of control!

SueT · 10-27-2006, 06:40 PM

my powder blue made it through a recent bout with ich. I think mine got it right after Lynn's chevron and sailfin had their bout. Mine also kept eating and I'm sure with my soaking the food in garlic extreme helped a lot. Mine must of been sick about 3 weeks but that seemed like 3 years to me. Thankfully my powder blue has been getting fatter and sassier since getting well.

razz · 10-27-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SueT

my powder blue made it through a recent bout with ich. I think mine got it right after Lynn's chevron and sailfin had their bout. Mine also kept eating and I'm sure with my soaking the food in garlic extreme helped a lot. Mine must of been sick about 3 weeks but that seemed like 3 years to me. Thankfully my powder blue has been getting fatter and sassier since getting well.

so was he kept in the main tank the whole time while sick, and what happen with the other fish that had it >?

SueT · 10-27-2006, 07:23 PM

yes, razz, this tang was in my main tank and no other fish ever got any ich spots. I also have a genicanthus angel, copperband and a school of green chromis. No one else got sick. Thankfully...

lgerold · 10-28-2006, 01:33 AM

When I first set up my tank, the hippo tang I purchased 3 weeks later got ich. I did a freshwater dip on him and nearly killed him. He laid behind some live rock for three straight days, barely breathing. After that, he came out to eat and within a week was doing great. Ich is still in the tank, and somtimes new fish come down with it, but they always shake it off. I'm always really careful to only buy fish that are eating well at the FS.

I think ich is a fairly normal parasite, and stressed fish are prone to attack. Once the stressed fish's immune system rallies back, they can combat the ich.

I'd be more afraid to try the freshwater dip than let the fish try to combat it. Of course, if the fish stops eating, perhaps the freshwater dip would then be worth the risk.

Lucy

ex3004me · 10-28-2006, 02:35 AM

my purple didnt make it but my yellow tang is doing great now that im using garlic and uv. i think they both would of made it if i was home to catch it sooner.

prow · 10-28-2006, 09:19 AM

i have but a long time ago. sence then i have learnd, even though it can be a pain, its so worth QTing everything. i am a firm believer in QTing at least 45days. i now have many ick prone fish but have QT'd them all in hyposalinity prior to going in the tank. fish like clown gobies and hippo tangs. sence starting that i have never ever had any fish with a outbreak. i can smile now say i have a ick free tank. no matter how stressed they get, i do stess them alot from time to time, none get sick.

terry · 10-28-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razz

my new ick has ick but he seems to be eating and still looking ok..ive leveled out my temp. and am now keeping it as close to 80 as possible with-out too many flucuations..
in the past if a tang got ick in my tang they always died,has anyone had one beat the ick..im hoping the uv and clean tank does..

Sarah03 · 10-28-2006, 05:33 PM

My tang had ick not to long ago, I just left him in the tank and let my cleaner shrimp clean it off when ever it appeared, I haven't seen it in a couple of weeks now, but I did start to notice him acting kind of wierd(breathing fast, not eating, twitching) I started to add garlic to the food, and fed him sea weed, and now everthing is looking good. Good luck.

terry · 10-28-2006, 05:38 PM

try lowing sg to 1.021 slowly. and garlic stops the little vampiers

razz · 10-28-2006, 06:14 PM

i bought some garlic optimum fish flakes but neither of my fish are eating them..the chevronntank just eats by cleaning my sand and rocks and the royal gramma ,i dont know what hes eating but not the flakes..any ideas on this

10-27-2006, 01:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
razz Midas Blenny Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121 View Gallery Karma Komment	any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine my new ick has ick but he seems to be eating and still looking ok..ive leveled out my temp. and am now keeping it as close to 80 as possible with-out too many flucuations.. in the past if a tang got ick in my tang they always died,has anyone had one beat the ick..im hoping the uv and clean tank does..

10-27-2006, 01:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,637 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine UV can help, but won't cure ich. have you tried soaking foods in garlic? Not a cure either, but can help boost their immune system, so they can fight it off. Othewise, a well cycled quarantine tank with hyposalinity and/or medication is really the only way to kill the parasite. If the ich is in your display tank, then it would have to be kept fallow (no fish at all) for about 6 weeks. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 21,924 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine My Chevron tank has shown no signs for well over a month. May be even 2. UV, garlic, and Selcon was what I used and atm still do. i will probably cut back on the uv this weekend since there is a lot of tank work on the weekend work list. it has been running 24/7 since the outbreak so I am going to cut back to 12hrs a day and if no symptoms appear after a couple of weeks turn it off. Also on a bright note none of the rest of my fish every showed any signs of he disease. Oh and also I am babysitting a hippo tang that apparently had a very bad case. he was treated with a freshwater dip and has been fine for quite some time. (I did not do this he is in my qt tank with several buddies waiting for his new tank to cycle and this happened long before he was here.) __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

10-27-2006, 07:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
das Star Polyps Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney,Australia Posts: 174 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine G'day all' between 74 and 86 we've had ours at when our Regal got ick! in a coral tank too! so we couldn't give him a dipping, though also fed reguarly eventually shook it off with no medicine- go figure just luck i suppose also nitrate idles on 40ppm in this tank with angels- go figure that one out it's 18 months old.We have burried many fish in 2yrs and it hurts me the most when its a tang so our tanks are divided now due to the past .Even though the books say fish death is due to human error some things are just out of control! __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society*

10-27-2006, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
SueT Neon dottyback Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 650 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine my powder blue made it through a recent bout with ich. I think mine got it right after Lynn's chevron and sailfin had their bout. Mine also kept eating and I'm sure with my soaking the food in garlic extreme helped a lot. Mine must of been sick about 3 weeks but that seemed like 3 years to me. Thankfully my powder blue has been getting fatter and sassier since getting well. __________________ 120g sps/clam tank: http://berlinmethod.com/suet/ 2x250w 10k reeflux, actinic supplementation, mag12 return, 2 mjmods-1200, 2 mj1200 on wavemaker, kalk drip, ASM G3, 75+ spp. of acropora and montipora plating & encrusting sp. http://clamsdirect.com/phpbb2/

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SueT Neon dottyback Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 650 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine yes, razz, this tang was in my main tank and no other fish ever got any ich spots. I also have a genicanthus angel, copperband and a school of green chromis. No one else got sick. Thankfully... __________________ 120g sps/clam tank: http://berlinmethod.com/suet/ 2x250w 10k reeflux, actinic supplementation, mag12 return, 2 mjmods-1200, 2 mj1200 on wavemaker, kalk drip, ASM G3, 75+ spp. of acropora and montipora plating & encrusting sp. http://clamsdirect.com/phpbb2/

10-28-2006, 01:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
lgerold Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brainerd, Mn Posts: 473 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine When I first set up my tank, the hippo tang I purchased 3 weeks later got ich. I did a freshwater dip on him and nearly killed him. He laid behind some live rock for three straight days, barely breathing. After that, he came out to eat and within a week was doing great. Ich is still in the tank, and somtimes new fish come down with it, but they always shake it off. I'm always really careful to only buy fish that are eating well at the FS. I think ich is a fairly normal parasite, and stressed fish are prone to attack. Once the stressed fish's immune system rallies back, they can combat the ich. I'd be more afraid to try the freshwater dip than let the fish try to combat it. Of course, if the fish stops eating, perhaps the freshwater dip would then be worth the risk. Lucy

10-28-2006, 02:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
ex3004me Tubeworm Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 25 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine my purple didnt make it but my yellow tang is doing great now that im using garlic and uv. i think they both would of made it if i was home to catch it sooner.

10-28-2006, 09:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,373 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine i have but a long time ago. sence then i have learnd, even though it can be a pain, its so worth QTing everything. i am a firm believer in QTing at least 45days. i now have many ick prone fish but have QT'd them all in hyposalinity prior to going in the tank. fish like clown gobies and hippo tangs. sence starting that i have never ever had any fish with a outbreak. i can smile now say i have a ick free tank. no matter how stressed they get, i do stess them alot from time to time, none get sick.

10-28-2006, 05:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sarah03 Fire Coral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 64 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine My tang had ick not to long ago, I just left him in the tank and let my cleaner shrimp clean it off when ever it appeared, I haven't seen it in a couple of weeks now, but I did start to notice him acting kind of wierd(breathing fast, not eating, twitching) I started to add garlic to the food, and fed him sea weed, and now everthing is looking good. Good luck.

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terry Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 49 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine try lowing sg to 1.021 slowly. and garlic stops the little vampiers

10-28-2006, 06:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
razz Midas Blenny Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: any one have a tang with ick live with-out quarentine i bought some garlic optimum fish flakes but neither of my fish are eating them..the chevronntank just eats by cleaning my sand and rocks and the royal gramma ,i dont know what hes eating but not the flakes..any ideas on this

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