Red Slime! Ahhh!!!

burning2nd · 06-19-2006, 02:37 PM

oh man this stuff sucks, does it have to do with water movement? cause only the left side of the tank gets it. its moved off the rocks down to the CC, ive used this stuff chemi clean (supost to get rid of the red slime algie) did for a little but its back quick,

IS there anything i can do besides chemicals? could it have to do with the fact that, that side doesnt get as much movement as the right side.

anything likes to eat this suff? cause i cant beat it, it seems.

The stuff says repeat if needed , I think i will

BoomerD · 06-19-2006, 03:17 PM

You need to find the source of the nutrients that are causing this stuff before you will beat it. The various "red slime removers" are usually anti-biotics, which can damage your biological filtration, and should be used ONLY as a last resort. I highly recommend the Phosban reactors with either Phosban or RowaPhos in them to reduce the phosphates, but even with one of those, you need to find and eliminate the source of the high nutrients. Could be either your source water, (tap water is usually nasty stuff), fish food, (frozen and flake are both high in phosphates) . Those are the 2 most common sources. High flow rates help to prevent it from growing, but is no guarantee if you have a high nutrient load in your tank...

burning2nd · 06-19-2006, 03:25 PM

my phopate are 0 as my no2 and no3.

but you said frozen, and thats what i feed, so you gave me an idea, thank you

BoomerD · 06-19-2006, 03:44 PM

Soak/rinse frozen foods well in PO/DI water to help draw off much of the phosphates. All too often, you will have higher phosphates than you can test for, because the algaes/cyano are taking it up fast enough that it doesn't register...
What do you use for a water source? Tap water? RO/DI? Store bought? Make your own?

Dragon Wrasse · 06-19-2006, 04:28 PM

Ditto to both BoomerD's post....great info Boomer!!

burning2nd · 06-19-2006, 05:12 PM

RoDI home system from filterguys.com
water tests 0 TdS's

but thowing in frozen little peaces of brine would not help no???

Cartman89 · 06-19-2006, 05:20 PM

WHat I did was use a product called chemi-clean and that solved the problem. I have had no recent sighting of this "red-slime" (cyno). WHat I did was added more flow and then did a big water change (with RO of course) after I used Chemi-Clean. I recommend it.

burning2nd · 06-19-2006, 08:18 PM

thats what im useing, i used it once, and it looked like it was going away, i added the extra air like it says, and as soon as i did the 20% water change after, it came right back,

So im doing it ageain.....

Scooterman · 06-19-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by burning2nd

my phopate are 0

Don't let this fool you testing for organic & inorganic phosphates are different. Remember this harvesting the red slime is an excellent source to removal do it long enough along with good flow, lighting & watching your input will be very beneficial to removing the problem, I also don't support adding chemicals to resolve your alga problems.

burning2nd · 06-21-2006, 01:07 PM

what is phospate, were does it come from?

im still haveing this problem, and it seems i can detect phospate now,

its low, but its kinda detectabul now, what should i do?

my sorce water is 0

Scooterman · 06-21-2006, 02:50 PM

one thing most likely your testing inorganic phosphates & leaving out the complete source of organic phosphates, your test kits won't test for them unless you have a lab grade kit which these are costly. So in saying that, once you start reading a source of inorganic phosphates you most probably have a larger source of organic fueling the problem. This list can get long but in short, food & poo usually bring in the most problems in a reef. One good thing about cyanobacteria is it is easily removed, thus each time you vacuum it out of your tank you are physically removing part of the problem which is a good thing. A few things to consider other than your feeding habits & your bio-load is lighting & water flow. If you do a search for cayno you will find very useful information in clearing up this problem, help with your feedings as a guide & hopefully your not having a ton of fish in a small tank. The good thing this will pass just give it some time & stay on the husbandry.

Scooterman · 06-21-2006, 03:12 PM

check these out

Algae type pests

http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...4&pp=25&page=3

burning2nd · 06-21-2006, 04:07 PM

good, stuff. i really dont get it. I kindda do but theres some fogie area's

Scooterman · 06-21-2006, 04:12 PM

keep sucking it out, look at your feeding & what your feeding. make sure you have good lighting & flow, study these & you will get over it.

06-19-2006, 02:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Red Slime! Ahhh!!! oh man this stuff sucks, does it have to do with water movement? cause only the left side of the tank gets it. its moved off the rocks down to the CC, ive used this stuff chemi clean (supost to get rid of the red slime algie) did for a little but its back quick, IS there anything i can do besides chemicals? could it have to do with the fact that, that side doesnt get as much movement as the right side. anything likes to eat this suff? cause i cant beat it, it seems. The stuff says repeat if needed , I think i will

06-19-2006, 03:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! You need to find the source of the nutrients that are causing this stuff before you will beat it. The various "red slime removers" are usually anti-biotics, which can damage your biological filtration, and should be used ONLY as a last resort. I highly recommend the Phosban reactors with either Phosban or RowaPhos in them to reduce the phosphates, but even with one of those, you need to find and eliminate the source of the high nutrients. Could be either your source water, (tap water is usually nasty stuff), fish food, (frozen and flake are both high in phosphates) . Those are the 2 most common sources. High flow rates help to prevent it from growing, but is no guarantee if you have a high nutrient load in your tank... __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

06-19-2006, 03:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! my phopate are 0 as my no2 and no3. but you said frozen, and thats what i feed, so you gave me an idea, thank you

06-19-2006, 03:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! Soak/rinse frozen foods well in PO/DI water to help draw off much of the phosphates. All too often, you will have higher phosphates than you can test for, because the algaes/cyano are taking it up fast enough that it doesn't register... What do you use for a water source? Tap water? RO/DI? Store bought? Make your own? __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

06-19-2006, 04:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dragon Wrasse Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 991 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! Ditto to both BoomerD's post....great info Boomer!! __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting

06-19-2006, 05:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! RoDI home system from filterguys.com water tests 0 TdS's but thowing in frozen little peaces of brine would not help no??? Last edited by burning2nd : 06-19-2006 at 05:13 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

06-19-2006, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cartman89 Neon dottyback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 663 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! WHat I did was use a product called chemi-clean and that solved the problem. I have had no recent sighting of this "red-slime" (cyno). WHat I did was added more flow and then did a big water change (with RO of course) after I used Chemi-Clean. I recommend it.

06-19-2006, 08:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! thats what im useing, i used it once, and it looked like it was going away, i added the extra air like it says, and as soon as i did the 20% water change after, it came right back, So im doing it ageain.....

06-21-2006, 01:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! what is phospate, were does it come from? im still haveing this problem, and it seems i can detect phospate now, its low, but its kinda detectabul now, what should i do? my sorce water is 0

06-21-2006, 02:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Scooterman Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 1,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! one thing most likely your testing inorganic phosphates & leaving out the complete source of organic phosphates, your test kits won't test for them unless you have a lab grade kit which these are costly. So in saying that, once you start reading a source of inorganic phosphates you most probably have a larger source of organic fueling the problem. This list can get long but in short, food & poo usually bring in the most problems in a reef. One good thing about cyanobacteria is it is easily removed, thus each time you vacuum it out of your tank you are physically removing part of the problem which is a good thing. A few things to consider other than your feeding habits & your bio-load is lighting & water flow. If you do a search for cayno you will find very useful information in clearing up this problem, help with your feedings as a guide & hopefully your not having a ton of fish in a small tank. The good thing this will pass just give it some time & stay on the husbandry. __________________ Scott Ardoin (Ard-Dwan)

06-21-2006, 03:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Scooterman Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 1,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! check these out Algae type pests http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...4&pp=25&page=3 __________________ Scott Ardoin (Ard-Dwan)

06-21-2006, 04:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
burning2nd Golden Moray Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,287 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! good, stuff. i really dont get it. I kindda do but theres some fogie area's

06-21-2006, 04:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
Scooterman Elegance coral Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 1,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Red Slime! Ahhh!!! keep sucking it out, look at your feeding & what your feeding. make sure you have good lighting & flow, study these & you will get over it. __________________ Scott Ardoin (Ard-Dwan)

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