Return pump for 180?

Woodstock · 05-14-2006, 10:08 AM

What external return pump should I get for a 180? The sump will be a 30 gal acrylic Advanced Aquaria Berlin (30"x 14"x 17").

Thanks in advance

Ohhh.. the head loss will only be about 5'.

Witfull · 05-14-2006, 10:51 AM

Jacuzzi 5hp high-pressure with 4" outlet~~

Woodstock · 05-14-2006, 11:04 AM

Mad Mike · 05-14-2006, 11:15 PM

I'm using an Iwaki 70

Woodstock · 05-14-2006, 11:26 PM

Thanks Mike. No complaints?

SueT · 05-15-2006, 06:18 PM

for my 180g before i sold it we were using a mag18 and i loved it. never a problem and it kicked some water movement.

Mad Mike · 05-15-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodstock

Thanks Mike. No complaints?

A little hard to prime but otherwise no, I have 2 of them one on the skimmer and one on the tank and they work fine. When you plumb make provisions for easy priming.

Witfull · 05-15-2006, 08:14 PM

seriously,,,,im using 2 little giant 4md's-1250gph each at 5ft head.

Woodstock · 05-16-2006, 02:44 AM

Thanks everyone for your replies!

cracker · 05-16-2006, 03:45 AM

A 180 gl tank will have a lot of surface area to skim. The source of intank flow will help keep the gunk suspended but You want large overflows and a return big anough to effectively draw off this surface water. Please consider a larger pump and careful placement of the outputs dedicated to move the large water surface towards the overflows only. Rely on other means for intank flow. IMHO whatever brand of pump you choose, bigger is better.

Yarr · 05-16-2006, 03:49 AM

arent either the iwaki or lil giant pumps noisy as hell ?

I will be using RK2

Witfull · 05-16-2006, 04:40 AM

my LG are silent,,,always used them.

mps9506 · 05-16-2006, 08:11 AM

You might want to look into the sequence or ampmaster pumps doni.
Having seen both in action I would hands down choose these as ciculation or return pumps over Iwaki or LG pumps for noise, heat transfer and efficiency.

Also why such a small sump for the 180? I would think a 180 would drain at least 10 gallons or so back into the sump once the power gets cut off.... Seems like it might be a small sump for such a large tank.

Woodstock · 05-16-2006, 08:30 AM

Thanks. I was wondering if it may be too small myself.... I may end up using a glass tank and adding baffles. Bigger is better for sure~

Witfull · 05-16-2006, 08:48 AM

you can also go with 2 pumps...if one for aany reason stops,,,all flow isnt comprimised.

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