Bubbles from my sandbed!?!

roadrunner1659 · 05-12-2006, 03:38 AM

I came home tonight after being away from my tank for a day. I came home to detris taking over my fuge area and what looked to be the beginning of cyno on my chaeto.

I also noticed this film of bubblely substance on the top of my water in my fuge...

I ended of cleaning everything as best as possible, then when i went up stairs to try and fall asleep, i looked closely at my fuge...the air bubbles are coming from my sandbed...how is this possible and what is it?

all i feel like doing is running my hands through the sandbed to stop it but for some reason i feel like they would just return after a short period of time.

What is this and i can see how its going to be good so what do i need to do to get rid of it?

Thanks

blue_eyes53813 · 05-12-2006, 08:55 AM

My fuge does the same thing, It is probably because there isnt much flow going through. I Usually take a net and skim the top of the Fuge.. Of course you dont wanna pump up the flow because that will deplete the purpose of slow flow so the critters/ copepods can stay in there to breed. Scoop out the top part of it when it accumulates there..

DONT stir the sand .. I have the same bubbles and it is prob gas bubbles. All normal and your sand sifter will help stir that up some. You dont wanna stir your sand bed all at once though. Do you have sand sifters?..

mattie · 05-12-2006, 09:54 AM

i would remove the slime algae if it is growing the main tank.
if it is only in the fuge let it go and maybe run the light a little longer and plan to do a water change and rub the red slime off the of the cheato
again try not to disturb the fuge to muhc when clean the cheato

blue_eyes53813 · 05-12-2006, 10:24 AM

Ok I read that wrong, lol I thought we was talking about normal bubbles under the sand bed,, ok than.... Use a turkey baster to blow off the cyno and when it floats to the top , scoop it out with a net...

Never stir your sand bed. Try to figure out why the cyano is starting , like over feeding, lights on to long, overstocking, nitrates, phospates, and eliminate it and the cyano will slowly disappear.

This is prob a normal cycle of a new tank.... and clean up crew might help some.

roadrunner1659 · 05-12-2006, 10:53 AM

ok...im now sure what type of sand sifter i should get for a fuge...also im almost 100% positive that the cyno is coming from my light...im replacing the bulb tonight...

so the bubbles are cyno? do i understand that correctly blue eyes?

i have 300 gph running through my fuge...and my light in my fuge is running 24/7

Craig Manoukian · 05-12-2006, 11:06 AM

Nitrogen Gas, the end of the dentrification process can be seen exscaping the sandbed and bubble to the top of the water column. The low flow of the refugium will allow cellulose and bubbles to accumulate.

blue_eyes53813 · 05-12-2006, 11:13 AM

If the bubbles are on the top of the sand and looks like a slimy mass, when you touch them or blow using a turkey baster it floats to the top of the water column.. yeah it prob the start of cyano.

How big is the fuge? It is prob settling in the fuge because of low flow, But you need low flow in there. Just try to scoop out as much as possible daily. It will prob slowly go away. It may start to show up in the main tank as well. Monitor feedings and make sure food is being eaten.

If the bubbles are under the top layer of the sand and maybe water motion or critters are losening them that is normal. and nothing to worry about....

roadrunner1659 · 05-12-2006, 11:18 AM

the bubbles are clearly on the top of my sandbed in my fuge...when theyr rise to the surface they create a bubbly film on the surface...they also seem to have a reddish tint to them...my fuge is 12x20 with 300 gph running through it.

i just setup my fuge/sump setup i have a chronicle and my fuge will cover its self in detris and these bubbles over night but i dont have any problums in my main tank as of right now...

should i get a critter to roam around on my sand bed in my fuge or not needed?

blue_eyes53813 · 05-12-2006, 11:23 AM

I have a few snails in mine.

roadrunner1659 · 05-12-2006, 11:40 AM

and they just go around on ur sandbed...ok well i'll pic up a couple today

Craig Manoukian · 05-12-2006, 11:14 PM

Nassaurius snails will be the best solution.

roadrunner1659 · 05-12-2006, 11:15 PM

i put in 2 nassaurius snails about 3 or 4 days ago and i haven't seem them since and they are XL nassarius snails

Craig Manoukian · 05-12-2006, 11:18 PM

A half dozen will be more efficient. They are subterrainian cruisers and do not need to surface as their food is in the sand bed.

roadrunner1659 · 05-13-2006, 12:32 AM

i was also wondering...will algea go away by itself? like if you have algea on your glass...through water changes and balances throughout everything else will it go away after a while?

Craig Manoukian · 05-13-2006, 05:07 AM

As long as you have nutrients - light, phosphates and nitrates you will have algea. Limiting P and N plus good circulation can minimize, but never eliminate algea totally.

05-12-2006, 03:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
roadrunner1659 Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 734 View Gallery Karma Komment	Bubbles from my sandbed!?! I came home tonight after being away from my tank for a day. I came home to detris taking over my fuge area and what looked to be the beginning of cyno on my chaeto. I also noticed this film of bubblely substance on the top of my water in my fuge... I ended of cleaning everything as best as possible, then when i went up stairs to try and fall asleep, i looked closely at my fuge...the air bubbles are coming from my sandbed...how is this possible and what is it? all i feel like doing is running my hands through the sandbed to stop it but for some reason i feel like they would just return after a short period of time. What is this and i can see how its going to be good so what do i need to do to get rid of it? Thanks

05-12-2006, 08:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,635 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! My fuge does the same thing, It is probably because there isnt much flow going through. I Usually take a net and skim the top of the Fuge.. Of course you dont wanna pump up the flow because that will deplete the purpose of slow flow so the critters/ copepods can stay in there to breed. Scoop out the top part of it when it accumulates there.. DONT stir the sand .. I have the same bubbles and it is prob gas bubbles. All normal and your sand sifter will help stir that up some. You dont wanna stir your sand bed all at once though. Do you have sand sifters?.. __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

05-12-2006, 09:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
mattie RS Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Torrance CA Posts: 522 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! i would remove the slime algae if it is growing the main tank. if it is only in the fuge let it go and maybe run the light a little longer and plan to do a water change and rub the red slime off the of the cheato again try not to disturb the fuge to muhc when clean the cheato __________________ www.reef-care.com

05-12-2006, 10:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,635 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! Ok I read that wrong, lol I thought we was talking about normal bubbles under the sand bed,, ok than.... Use a turkey baster to blow off the cyno and when it floats to the top , scoop it out with a net... Never stir your sand bed. Try to figure out why the cyano is starting , like over feeding, lights on to long, overstocking, nitrates, phospates, and eliminate it and the cyano will slowly disappear. This is prob a normal cycle of a new tank.... and clean up crew might help some. __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

05-12-2006, 10:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
roadrunner1659 Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 734 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! ok...im now sure what type of sand sifter i should get for a fuge...also im almost 100% positive that the cyno is coming from my light...im replacing the bulb tonight... so the bubbles are cyno? do i understand that correctly blue eyes? i have 300 gph running through my fuge...and my light in my fuge is running 24/7

05-12-2006, 11:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,248 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! Nitrogen Gas, the end of the dentrification process can be seen exscaping the sandbed and bubble to the top of the water column. The low flow of the refugium will allow cellulose and bubbles to accumulate. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

05-12-2006, 11:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,635 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! If the bubbles are on the top of the sand and looks like a slimy mass, when you touch them or blow using a turkey baster it floats to the top of the water column.. yeah it prob the start of cyano. How big is the fuge? It is prob settling in the fuge because of low flow, But you need low flow in there. Just try to scoop out as much as possible daily. It will prob slowly go away. It may start to show up in the main tank as well. Monitor feedings and make sure food is being eaten. If the bubbles are under the top layer of the sand and maybe water motion or critters are losening them that is normal. and nothing to worry about.... __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

05-12-2006, 11:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
roadrunner1659 Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 734 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! the bubbles are clearly on the top of my sandbed in my fuge...when theyr rise to the surface they create a bubbly film on the surface...they also seem to have a reddish tint to them...my fuge is 12x20 with 300 gph running through it. i just setup my fuge/sump setup i have a chronicle and my fuge will cover its self in detris and these bubbles over night but i dont have any problums in my main tank as of right now... should i get a critter to roam around on my sand bed in my fuge or not needed?

05-12-2006, 11:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 6,635 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! I have a few snails in mine. __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

05-12-2006, 11:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
roadrunner1659 Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 734 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! and they just go around on ur sandbed...ok well i'll pic up a couple today

05-12-2006, 11:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,248 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! Nassaurius snails will be the best solution. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

05-12-2006, 11:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
roadrunner1659 Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 734 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! i put in 2 nassaurius snails about 3 or 4 days ago and i haven't seem them since and they are XL nassarius snails

05-12-2006, 11:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,248 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! A half dozen will be more efficient. They are subterrainian cruisers and do not need to surface as their food is in the sand bed. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS. Last edited by Craig Manoukian : 05-13-2006 at 05:05 AM.

05-13-2006, 12:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
roadrunner1659 Plate Coral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 734 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! i was also wondering...will algea go away by itself? like if you have algea on your glass...through water changes and balances throughout everything else will it go away after a while?

05-13-2006, 05:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,248 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Bubbles from my sandbed!?! As long as you have nutrients - light, phosphates and nitrates you will have algea. Limiting P and N plus good circulation can minimize, but never eliminate algea totally. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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